FrankIncese

I really wish BL would get better hair overall. Lol.

I do not want it dumbed down. But 90+% of audiences will never do research. It’s up to the creators to get their point across in a way that the majority can understand or they are just making it for themselves. IMO

Oh yes, I think it was all pretty clear, but just not overt. All subtext, as you say. No declarations of love. I wouldn't say my experience was unfortunate, because this was so damn good from start to finish. I just had unrealistic expectations. Thanks for your comments!

I thought so, but in his YT channel he calls Elijah "baby" so often that I had to ask (I know this is what he calls him in Gamebois, but these were BTS)

I just watched it. He is hot. But to me, his sweet goofiness is what makes him so appealing.

Skinship is a commercial for a skin care clinic, disguised as a show.

I'm way behind everyone else on this one. Only 4 eps in, so far. I started, watched 2 eps and then wanted to wait til I could binge a whole bunch. But the story was so boring I had to go back and watch from the beginning again, because I had forgotten everything.

So far, really disappointing. Some of the cutest actors in BL (Gui, Kao, even Khem), but the direction, editing, pacing are all horrible. There are small moments where I think "that's a fantastic touch" but then 99% of the time I'm screaming "WHY?!!!?" Stupid example, but I just watched this scene... Gui is missing Solo and decides to make himself warm milk... so he pulls 2 gallons of milk out of the fridge. 2??? For one cup of milk?

I've seen some comments that I totally agree with. Are these guys botoxed to the max? Cuz I can't find an actual expression for the most part. I commented below and will say again, Solo looks like he's on drugs. His eyes are glazed over. Give this guy some Oxygen.

Anyway, I'm not sure I can stick with it. I may just watch the Pho/Kao scenes, since Kao is the best thing in this and I've read your comments about his... exposure... in future eps.

Sidenote: The song Oxygen is beautiful and beautifully sung. Kao's song is also very well done.

You are funny!

100% agree. I think it's the director. He has moments where you can see real emotion, but someone told him to stop emoting and look like a zombie.

jpnoy01 I don't disagree with you one bit. i've been having other conversations on the board and apparently, that's the difference between BL series and "gay" series. BL is all sanitized, chaste and doesn't consider real world issues. "Gay" series consider real-world implications. (At least from what I gather from others here). I guess there should be room for both, but I agree that it is a fetishization and potentially harmful for young gay men who may look to BL for examples of how their lives may evolve.

Age of consent may be 15, but come on. We all know 15 year olds are still kids and are easily manipulated by adults. Just cuz the law says it's ok, doesn't make it ok.

Understatement. LOL

While I think the actors are amateurs, I blame most of this on the director. Every once in a while both the MC actually show an emotion, so they are capable. I think the director has told them to play the characters this way. Sometimes I think Solo is on drugs. He's got this dazed look as if nothing registers at all.

I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully, in time, she will be able to accept you. Deep in her heart she loves you, but her fears have just clouded her judgement. God loves you, certainly. And you have allies here. Stay strong.

I agree. I THOUGHT I liked BL, but given the very narrow parameters for the genre held by the majority here (not all, but those ardent fans), it seems very few of the series I like would actually qualify as BL. That’s fine. We all have our own tastes. I’ll stop calling myself a BL fan and just say... I like shows about boys who love boys. Lol.

Very sweet. It explains the crying, but still not sure why these guys use tongue when so many BL couple have their mouths shut as tight as possible. Haha.

Yes we were talking about ep 9. Catch up! Lol. Jk.

Thanks to you both. Fascinating issues for those of us new and somewhat unfamiliar with this... is sub-genre the correct term? Really appreciate your thoughtful and respectful responses as well as the insights. Cheers.

I agree. But then the majority of conflict in BL comes from someone just not asking a question or expressing themselves honestly.

Preachy and whatnot came from others in the thread. I Get what you’re saying but why do we need a distinction? Why fracture an already marginalized community even more. Just an honest question