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I haven't seen anyone use the words 'contaminate' or 'superior'. You've stated that you enjoy gay relationships between men over platonic ones in fiction of this type. I'm guessing you would describe this as a defense of your preference, not as an argument as to why BL is superior. I'm fairly certain that most people here who say they like this as a bromance more would have the same opinion. It's their preference. Just as the writers seem to have wanted to tell the story of passionate artists who form a close bond that, in this instance, isn't about sex. I'm not caught up with all the episodes available yet, but as of right now, I think their characterizations and performances do well to show that view of a platonic relationship very well. / All of this having been said, 'High School Return of a Gangster', over on Hulu? THAT felt like a BL cheat. Those boys were so gay they went on a beach date and had ice cream and the pier and traipsed together, holy hell. Just saying, I do feel for the BL lovers out there from time to time when they're clearly getting ripped off. I don't think that's what's happening here.

You're presuming that a platonic relationship between two men is just homosexuality without the honesty. That's incorrect, odd and constrains the narrative. There isn't just one kind of love. With your use of the word purified and the quotes around it, you're also suggesting that by telling the story of a platonic relationship between two men, the creators are prejudiced by not making the characters gay. Again, that's a very limited world view. People of the same gender can form tight close friendships around shared passions without being attracted to one another sexually. Telling those kinds of stories is okay too, and doesn't require the 'purification' of sex that was never there in the first place.

I like the idea in general. I don't like that it's a command from on high, so to speak, so they must obey; everything tastes similar when every cook is ordered to follow the same recipe using the same ingredients.

Always happy when an older Korean show pops back up in the rotation on streaming services. Watching this now on Netflix. First episode seems alright, but the episode guide ratings suggest it gets much better. I'll see.

He was polite and respectful of his grandfather. How terrible. They'll get over it or they won't watch, but something tells me this has more to do with the media and less the actual sentiment of the viewing audience. I could definitely be wrong though, I'll admit.

Ding hugs the whole team after the reset because he's so happy to see them alive, and completely ignores his boss who's waiting for his hug. I'm dead. 🤣🤣

I'll keep an eye out!

It was absolutely an irrational response, but he'd just lost a lot people and didn't control his emotional outburst. It was a heat of the moment thing. Stretched my suspension of disbelief, but didn't break it.

I loved Reset; this is different. Reset, y'know, one situation, and you got to view it from every single angle, until you knew it by heart, just like the main characters. Mobius, so far, is broader in scope and more complex in design with more moving pieces. Reset had to rely on many, many false leads, red herrings and failed attempts, but you still got to know the characters very well; because there's a limited number of loops in Mobius, there's fewer fails, but you also don't really get to know the side characters as well (not yet, anyway).

It does some things better, while sometimes lacking in areas Reset excelled at. Right now I'd say it compares equally to Reset overall, but I need to see the full season.

Currently on episode four, now I'm going to be overanalyzing every scene when I get to six, 😂

Oh, come on!!! Episode six opens with a romantic song while they run on the beach laughing and chasing each other, Deuk teaches Kyung to ride a bike on the pier, and Deuk's two former goons watch the pair from afar, dazzled by their carefree "fRiEnDsHiP". They gay. They so very, very, very gay, and with only two episodes left, there are still no female LIs in sight for either of them.

Show is still fantastic, though.

I haven't read the Webtoon, so maybe you're right. Maybe it's improved with the removal of the explicit BL elements. But man, is it obvious even without them. Still, this gives a good, different perspective to consider while I'm watching it.

Ending fight of episode two was so satisfying!

I'm well into the second episode right now. The show is pretty fantastic. I have to say, though, I am a forty year-old man. We didn't use to say things like 'queer-coded'. Xena, for instance, had lesbian undertones or subtext in it's first few seasons before the undertones became overt and the subtext was just text. Reason I'm bringing this up is, regardless of what you call it, the BL origins are blatant. I'm not exactly hankering to watch two dudes in a romance, but the chemistry between these two is undeniable, and everything from the character backgrounds to the dialogue and camera, blocking and significant glances are full on BL. I've spoiled it for myself by coming here and checking while I watch that this does not actually come to pass in the show, and I'm not sad that it won't, but it probably should've. By the time I reach the end I'll know whether or not the story should've stuck to its roots, but currently I'm with the BL fans here. They're getting robbed.

Vincenzo truly was fantastic. And I do have to agree with you, FPS1 dragged a little in the first half of the season. It got frustrating with the villains constantly winning and no progress being made. I still feel like 12 hours is too short, but if it's paced properly I'll be happy with it. And it's good just to get a second season of this regardless.

Agreed.

I am aware, but they were 40 half hour episodes, with the denouements and overall pacing still meant for an hour-long show. My point was, with an original run time of 20 hours, this new season only running for 12 means a potential loss of story and character. But it might still be good.

I can't wait for this to return, but could the episode count be off? I hope there's 16 episodes, 12 just seems a bit short.

I'm on Episode 4 right now, it's not perfect, but it's good. If you're a fan of the cast or medical/legal/revenge thrillers, there's definitely something here for you.

Really, really hoping that November 30th date is for this year! Loved the first season and just came back to Viki. It would be great to see season two soon.