HouseMD33

yeah I agree, kind of reminds me of some isekai Anime situations honestly (not all of them). Very sus indeed.

Omg yes so much this. Haha we think alike. I woulda loved that explanation.

Not sure what u mean. The erasing of blood works for both worlds, that's why cheese PZ offered it as a way for strawberry PZ to exchange places with him.

Overall liked the show until the very end there. Censorship aside, why did cheese PZ go back to his world without finishing p=np for them? I understand that was what he used as a threat but it clearly didn't work. If he really cared about LZX he woulda left it before deciding to return. Did he do it to be vindictive? That's not a trait I attribute to PZ. I woulda much preferred an alternative ending where cheese PZ is still there and he just hypnotized his way into tricking LXZ/Strawberry PZ. Like he pretended to go, so that strawberry PZ can convince LZX he was gone, only to come back with hypnotism. Another alternative woulda been if u know, they had negotiated better for the n=np and maybe both PZ could swap control of the body every now and then. Pretty lackluster ending to me honestly. Especially when the whole parallel traveling ended up being due to some unexplained mumbo jumbo blood magic. Would have liked a bit more exploration of LZX's mother. Maybe she was the original parallel traveler who came from another universe?

I think the ML/FL speculated that there's a possibility of returning after they die in the cheese world without completing the mission. It's all speculative of course and so much is unknown. But what is known, returning to Alzheimer Lin, honestly is a pretty bad outcome and worth the gamble to see if they can get a better outcome imo.

I'm not sure where u got the 1 month in cheese world = 1 week in strawberry world from. Maybe i'm just misremembering but time was frozen in strawberry world. So when they returned, no time has passed. So from PZ's perspective, his mother wouldn't notice a thing. But still they're assuming a lot for sure, but u'd pretty much have to assume a ton as we know so very little. They're already assuming that by recreating the sound file, it'd have the same effect as with the picture. We can't even be sure that's necessary the case. There's a possibility that they would return no matter what, even if they failed, after passing the time when both items were supposed to be created. We're all basing this off of just one cycle. Is there a possibility of just creating the sound file with audio manipulation? Record some sound bytes from both individuals and audio tune it.

Last time they changed a lot, but in my opinion a bit selfishly with only the goal of returning to strawberry world in mind. But it doesn't have to be the case that all results ends up negative. I'm hoping that if they are planning on completing the the mission this time and returning, that with ethics in mind, they'd at least plan for their parallel self a little and leave them in a better place. It's already too late to leave no impact in the cheese world and who knows what butterfly effects they are causing. Hopefully they'll at least be more intelligent about it rather than focusing on their own family (strawberry ling and PZ's father).

U can read my other comments on what the ethical issues are. At the end of the day, both strawberry/cheese world characters are the victim of circumstances. Maybe a similar situation to help illuminate the situation would be: Your father is in the hospital in dire need of a liver transplant to live. The hospital/doctor made a diagnostic/clerical error and authorized a transplant from another patient to save him. When the error is discovered, do you return the liver knowing that it'd be his death? I think most people would think they'd do the right thing but ethically it's the hospital at fault here and both patients are just victims of circumstances. U were neither the cause of taking the other patients life (who now has no liver) nor do u have the obligation to give ur own life to make everything right. In reality, it would be up to the hospital to bear most of the burden as they canno take ur life to give the liver back and would haveto somehow provide another solution. All in all the ethical burden is not on u. I do get that most people would think that we should try to do the right thing but there's a stark difference between trying to do the selfless & right thing and doing what's ethically correct from an individual's perspective. Both varies depending on how ur beliefs/foundations are set up. There's no THE correct answer.

Well whether something is a crime or not is technically about ethics since we tend to model laws based on ethics and keeping order. I doubt there's a transmigratory law regarding scenarios such as this so it's pretty meaningless to consider whether or not it's a crime if we consider it from a legal standpoint. There is no precedent for prosecution of someone who was accidentally transmigrated like this and I don't think we can wholly find the passengers in this case totally at fault with so much unknowable variables. So concluding, it's too ambiguous to approach this from the legal standpoint on whether or not it's a crime. We can however discuss the ethical significances behind the "crime", which is what I did. My conclusion was that there's not a wholly correct moral choice here. The "correct" decision varies depending on each individual's moral framework, which can be discussed and shown on screen. It's a shame that the FL and ML don't talk about it more, especially considering that FL was a philosophy major. U'd think she'd have more grounding in her reasoning rather than what's shown on screen. I think it's important to show that if she has such grounding and as viewers we're seriously missing out on some, in my opinion, exciting ethical discussions. It would also pave the way forward and lend more weight to their decision and it's correctness.

Also yes I would absolutely agree that should strawberry world FL/ML steal bodies, the other parallel universe would have equal rights to do the same. If the story involves that, it'd be much more interesting and as we expand on the consequences of that, we can get a much better telling of some "moral of the story" type deal. Any of these, from the ethical discussion to reverse uno takeovers etc would be pleasantly welcomed. But instead, I continue to find our two "geniuses" to be disappointing, given their age, experience, and intelligence. It's as if they actually became high schoolers mentally. I attribute this to bad or lazy writing since it's a convenient trope often used to start drama. Still like the show and I get to practice my Chinese but sometimes I like to vent.

Pretty sure I said there are some ethical negatives with taking over their parallel self, but u know what I'm okay with that. I'd even argue that she has an obligation to stay in the cheese world as long as it takes to find a cure for strawberry Lin. After all she has shown less attachment toward the cheese world Lin and cheese LZX (as you have alluded to with cheese Lin not being the one who raised her). My ethical obligation for the family I know would for sure override any that I don't (including my parallel self), and in this case I wouldn't care about trapping my cheese world self if it means giving strawberry Lin a chance. I think most parents/children would choose that route and there's nothing wrong with that. She has a moral obligation to do whatever she can for strawberry Lin. I never said she should abandon strawberry Lin since the whole goal would be to return at end of life if possible. Not giving it a shot would be actually abandoning strawberry Lin considering quality of life for Alzheimer. There are multiple options that PZ could take and there's not ONLY one solution. The fact that neither FL or ML has worked through this in a mature manner with more discussion and consideration rather than straight up doing what they want and it's their way or the highway is a bit disappointing considering how smart each of them are. We are missing out on some serious philosophical discussion that could have made this TV show really demonstrate it's genius qualities. With the word Genius in the title, I'd expect more genius engagement rather than PZ knowing how to do things magically.

Also consider this, u say that there's only one solution which is for PZ to agree and go back to their world and accept his fate. But there's this whole obsession with p = np throughout the story, of which it's solution I interpret as if we knew the answer, which can be quickly verified, then would we be able to solve it just as quickly. I think it would make much more sense if in the story, throughout all these transmigrations, they are able to find answers in the cheese world that leads to solution in the strawberry world. If they knew the answer/outcome in the chees world, would they be able to arrive at the same solution just as quickly in the strawberry world. Finding the cure for Alzheimer comes to mind and is workable for this storyline. Both leads just giving up and accepting their fate, going back and watching strawberry Lin die while PZ has no dad, that doesn't make sense to me. I think there's a reason why strawberry world is frozen in time while cheese world continues on.

I mean obviously it's my personal bias since I'm just stating my personal opinion and what I would do. As to what the drama is trying to tell us, whatever it is has been lost on me. There's clearly a world where everything works out for the better even with these cheats and shortcuts. LZX and PZ could have planned way better to benefit both universe and left their cheese world self significantly better and more equipped. The only ruin that came about was due to lazy writing and lack of cooperation. If anything that's the real moral of the story to me is; to achieve greatness, u gotta work hard despite the situation with all the tools u have, cheats included. If the show ends with the FL and ML giving up the cheat and just letting old Lin die with Alzheimers I'd give the writers huge props. But I'm guessing (though I might be wrong and be pleasantly surprised) that's not the case and they're going to use what they learned from the cheating experience to change that. So how does that illustrate you shouldn't cheat as the moral of the story if that's the case.

I actually just hate LZX, iono if it's the actress or her actions but she's super self-righteous and annoying. She's in such a rush to go back and take care of her dad for what? An average life expectancy of 4-8 years for Alzheimer? What about the quality of life? But lets say she has a chance of returning to her universe after end of life in the parallel universe. I'd stay in the parallel universe and cooperate with PZ, make tons of money and then put it into Alzheimer research. She has so much time in that universe to wait for a result. And when there's a result, u take that back to her original universe to save the other Lin. She'd be betting on returning after end of life and couple ethical issue with commandeering her parallel self but it's what I would do. U possibly get the best of both worlds, and at worst u've lived a comfortable life with parallel Lin.