I don't want to lose hope here esp. since WB was such a huge disappointment in it not being released but Jeff being the one who is in control fully of this project needs to be more forthcoming about where things are. Putting pre-script meeting on his calendar now and then is just dangling carrots and kicking the can down the road enabling him to dodge being more specific. He can plan a tour and concert schedule a year out - but cannot give this series a definite window of even starting production? It all just seems a like endless passes are being given due to him being so busy - just say you are no longer making this within the next year or 2 and let it go. By then Barcode will prob have moved on anyway.
The level of stupidity in epi 12 is unreal - how did this get past the the writer's room. They had all the elements; a good premise, good cast (though some should reverse roles), great cinematography and still they continue to shank it! I kept hoping it would get tighter, as it went on, as some of the police procedures, and the depiction of the ghosts, really impressed me. But it has continued to devolve into a clown show. What in the hell with them finding King's location but S/T detour to the house to play 'can you hear me' and pause to kiss- just to service the fandom. Are you serious- dude is over there having ppl murdered in front of him and being beaten with a damn stick!?! They moved with negative energy. Then Darrin and Mek- you had one damn job! Allowing the person you are supposed to be guarding at all times to leave the room alone in an unsecured building not to mention you are both men and can go into the washroom together was so stupid. But the icing on the cake has to be Singha taking Thup to the very place he should not be so that Singha wouldn't have one more thing to worry about as he stormed the murder house, only just to leave him alone. S/T seem to be incapable of using common sense at all, it is like they are allergic to it. Damnit! This could have been so fricken good!
So... finally finished watching this and the level of cringe from the big fight scene that opens epi 13 ...it encapsulated my view of the entire series - the elements where there, the premise was new and started strong. Where they lost this was in casting and direction. The blocking on fight/action scenes was terrible. Also, this had too many plot tangents and, sad as I am to say it, very poor acting from Ja. I could not feel him emotionally vested in any way from start to finish. This was textbook for here to get a check in how he looked past committing to this role. The director allowed far too much to move on and fix in post for too many poorly acted segments. You cannot fix lack of engagement in editing. I don't know how this made it through post. Supporting cast, and Tae, tried to pull this off but Ja's role had to work for them to do it and he simply didn't seem to show up.
**Oh and Ice had a grounds for a huge lawsuit against the university and it was unreal how quickly they took advantage of him yet again in having him sign off on that paltry scholarship - he could have owned that school or at least a few buildings on campus!
Damn! I wanted Thup to be the big bad killer- that would have throw everyone and his acting would have really shown for how he fooled everyone. Think instead they will give him a late stage half brother to pawn the murder deeds off on to so he will still have some skin in the game but get a happy ever after in the end. Just imagine how psycho he could have gone if it turned out he was the mastermind.
^iknowthings^ as a name and proceeds to yapp gibberish. you know Nothing my dear!you is a just a fool!
Oh you thought you ate with that...STAY PRESSED. Again, you exposed your inability to make a cohesive argument of your own. Instead, you latched onto something I already said about this being a public forum and tried to repackage it as you “educating” me. Lame. You bringing up respecting other opinions while showing zero ability to do that yourself is exactly how we got here. Reverting again to silly words because you have no true counterargument is true to form. So stay over there and enjoy your gibberish-free echo chamber.
I really don’t get the hype around this series. The ghosts are cool and they look good, but otherwise the investigation…
Spot on and it was an easy fix - instead of putting him at the crime scene - make him a spiritualist that works with the PD routinely and assign him to this case - then go one better and make him the killer in the end - after he has gained Singha's love and trust- give us some grit!
pooh’s acting is so stiff. he feels like the same character he was in pitbabe. his eyes are empty in a way and…
Agree, objectively, his choices are not showing growth from PB - same deer in the headlights, mouth ajar, with the half smirk. I was hoping he would have been cast as King - that would have given him a whole new persona to rise to. Alas...
I hope he lives for sure- he is the best actor on canvas right now and losing him half the damn basis of the show is gone - so no not all of us dislike him.
^iknowthings^ as a name and proceeds to yapp gibberish. you know Nothing my dear!you is a just a fool!
This is a comment section for reviewing a series, not a fan club. Disagreement is normal. Coordinated dogpiling, name-calling, and inventing motives to discredit someone you disagree with isn't critique. It's bullying.
Nothing I wrote requires your agreement. It just requires a basic understanding of how television storytelling works. Story structure, pacing, character investment, chemistry, and payoff aren't personal fantasies. They're fundamentals. When those fundamentals fail, ratings stall. An 8.7 reflects exactly what many viewers are feeling. It's a show that looks good, is competently acted, and still doesn't consistently land emotionally.
Reducing criticism to “you just want NC scenes” or claiming I’m writing fanfiction in my head is dishonest. Intimacy isn't just about sex. It's about connection, stakes, and emotional continuity. When a story hinges on a supposedly life-altering past relationship but they refuse to dramatize it meaningfully, that's a narrative problem. Pointing that out is analysis, not bias, projection, or hate.
The irony is several of you are doing exactly what you accuse me of doing. You're reacting emotionally, projecting intent, and defending actors or pairings instead of engaging with the actual review. That says more about fandom loyalty than the show's quality.
You're free to love the series. I'm free to critique it. If a differing opinion feels like an attack, that's not an issue with the review. It's an issue with how some of you engage in discussion. As the saying goes, a hit dog will holler.
ALSO: Imagine calling someone else’s writing gibberish while writing “you is a just a fool.” You had one sentence to make your point and still managed to shank it. The universe doesn't reward mean spiritedness, dear.
thanks for writing this review! it is exactly what I feel.. It had a lot of potential. you could see it must have…
Oh stop pontificating - telling ppl because they aren't fawning over this show that their opinion is some how worth less than yours. I would say this is where ppl are supposed to be able to come and express their views- so if you don't like it choose to consume reviews that you prefer and if a review is as terrible as you think - Keep scrolling. Go find the echo chamber review that will resonate with you so you can stop being a bully, and a nuisance, to others in the comment section,
The show is losing me to boredom at epi 8. I've hung in there long enough to conclude this is not going to get better, how did we get into this ditch?
IMO: ⦁ They repeated the same mistake - catering to the ship (PP) vs. where the drama lies. Just like it PB2, with Willy, the wouldn't allow Pavel to really go there with him. Same with King. They allude to a relationship, apparently so deep that it has caused all this trauma years later, and yet the flashbacks are lame af. Singha/King never had to shoot intimate scenes so their interactions now are disconnected and forced on the passion tip. ⦁ They're wasting King by not providing visual evidence of their romance and not showing Pavel to be torn about still wanting him in the present. Honestly, Pooh should have played King and they should have reconciled in the end with the actor playing King now moving to the Thup role and losing out to old love. But not before there was a serious love triangle with high stakes investment. ⦁ Pooh is not giving. The deer in the headlights frozen smile tactic occurs more often than not and harkens back to Charlie, and it being one of Pooh's main acting criticisms. Him playing King wouldn't have given him any reason to smile so it would have benefited his growth as an actor. It even extends to Singha and Thup's intimacy, it is boring between them with most of Pooh's flirting lines coming off super cringy. Pavel seems checked out, so not surprising they are cutting the scenes after a few kisses at most. No where near what they were giving in PB1. ⦁ Mike and TopTen - totally wasted - their characters don't even seem believable as lovers. TT's acting is pretty good but Mike is giving stiff and too blasé. The writing for them is terrible. It doesn't feel like love between them more like afraid to be alone. ⦁ The Chief of Police, and King's father, read hard as stereotypical paper tigers. Their lines are so trope it's embarrassing.
Pros:
⦁ Pavel's acting has improved and it is in scenes with King where that is most noticeable. In fact, because Pavel has improved he is kind of making Pooh's shortcomings more glaring. The actor playing King frankly is a better actor than Pooh and that is why it is such a loss that Singha/King don't have a deeper fleshed out backstory. ⦁ The supporting police force cast, and how they are handling the case (aside from a few what the hell missteps), is above average. ⦁ The makeup, for the ghosts, is much to my surprise consistently done well. ⦁ The cinematography is ongoingly up to the task. The show looks good.
Sadly, might be as good as it gets. How could they save it? Let go of pleasing the fandoms and go for a good story! They would need to pivot and reveal Thup as the killer. Then end with the possibility of King and Singha reconciling (maybe after King risks his life for Singha and kills Thup). Otherwise, it will end in an all to predictable way.
The answer to your question is beauty. He's a pretty man.
And so are they! I get the physical attraction but reliance on that instead of character development for an actor with Gun's range is just lazy writing. No excuse.
Whelp any hope of them easing into Joong chasing Dunk for the 100th time -gone in their first scene. Its getting tiresome. Overall, series looks above average. Dare I hope for a twist to this overused trope? We shall see, hope springs...
Gun is a good actor but the material often drifts in this series into indulgence for him. From the shorts to the whining, the show seems catered to him in a way that isn't engaging for me. The first two episodes were promising but I'm now at epi 5 and I really don't care about Jira. I started to but he hasn't developed beyond being just basic. Whining is not development, complaining endlessly isn't character building, and not seeing the trope for the trees and living in denial doesn't drive plot. Off continues with nuances to add depth to his character as does Dew but I am left trying to figure out why these two magnetic men want to posses such a boring character.
Jeff is in a catch 22 with this series: he hasn't been able to take a break from all the shows, etc. to get HES underway because they are paying for HES. He's been on hard hustle for most of the year. It is a concern to him as well I'm sure that it is delayed but the money has to be there to do it the all out way that he knows it has to be done. Considering it's his first production from SOS, Barcode has a lot of traction behind him now so he doesn't want to come up short there esp since HES was grandfathered in, because BC agreed to it before signing with GMM, and Jeff's reputation is on the line (not to mention SOS was also listed initially as a producer for WB and that failed to launch). So there is a lot at stake here and one thing Jeff is not going to let happen is for Ta, JJ and Kinn to out romance him with Barcode. That said I'm kind of concerned for BarcodeKinn because they will seem like a throwaway if HES hits hard the way that it is set up to. JeffBarcode is the more profitable/ high profile of the two couples. I'm frankly surprised GMM didn't thrown in the remaining funds needed and go half on HES with Jeff to keep Barcode from having to go off into another pairing. BarcodeKinn wouldn't have happened, at this time - if at all, if HES was moving along as it was initially planned.
**Oh and Ice had a grounds for a huge lawsuit against the university and it was unreal how quickly they took advantage of him yet again in having him sign off on that paltry scholarship - he could have owned that school or at least a few buildings on campus!
Again, you exposed your inability to make a cohesive argument of your own. Instead, you latched onto something I already said about this being a public forum and tried to repackage it as you “educating” me. Lame. You bringing up respecting other opinions while showing zero ability to do that yourself is exactly how we got here. Reverting again to silly words because you have no true counterargument is true to form. So stay over there and enjoy your gibberish-free echo chamber.
Nothing I wrote requires your agreement. It just requires a basic understanding of how television storytelling works. Story structure, pacing, character investment, chemistry, and payoff aren't personal fantasies. They're fundamentals. When those fundamentals fail, ratings stall. An 8.7 reflects exactly what many viewers are feeling. It's a show that looks good, is competently acted, and still doesn't consistently land emotionally.
Reducing criticism to “you just want NC scenes” or claiming I’m writing fanfiction in my head is dishonest. Intimacy isn't just about sex. It's about connection, stakes, and emotional continuity. When a story hinges on a supposedly life-altering past relationship but they refuse to dramatize it meaningfully, that's a narrative problem. Pointing that out is analysis, not bias, projection, or hate.
The irony is several of you are doing exactly what you accuse me of doing. You're reacting emotionally, projecting intent, and defending actors or pairings instead of engaging with the actual review. That says more about fandom loyalty than the show's quality.
You're free to love the series. I'm free to critique it. If a differing opinion feels like an attack, that's not an issue with the review. It's an issue with how some of you engage in discussion. As the saying goes, a hit dog will holler.
ALSO:
Imagine calling someone else’s writing gibberish while writing “you is a just a fool.” You had one sentence to make your point and still managed to shank it. The universe doesn't reward mean spiritedness, dear.
IMO:
⦁ They repeated the same mistake - catering to the ship (PP) vs. where the drama lies. Just like it PB2, with Willy, the wouldn't allow Pavel to really go there with him. Same with King. They allude to a relationship, apparently so deep that it has caused all this trauma years later, and yet the flashbacks are lame af. Singha/King never had to shoot intimate scenes so their interactions now are disconnected and forced on the passion tip.
⦁ They're wasting King by not providing visual evidence of their romance and not showing Pavel to be torn about still wanting him in the present. Honestly, Pooh should have played King and they should have reconciled in the end with the actor playing King now moving to the Thup role and losing out to old love. But not before there was a serious love triangle with high stakes investment.
⦁ Pooh is not giving. The deer in the headlights frozen smile tactic occurs more often than not and harkens back to Charlie, and it being one of Pooh's main acting criticisms. Him playing King wouldn't have given him any reason to smile so it would have benefited his growth as an actor. It even extends to Singha and Thup's intimacy, it is boring between them with most of Pooh's flirting lines coming off super cringy. Pavel seems checked out, so not surprising they are cutting the scenes after a few kisses at most. No where near what they were giving in PB1.
⦁ Mike and TopTen - totally wasted - their characters don't even seem believable as lovers. TT's acting is pretty good but Mike is giving stiff and too blasé. The writing for them is terrible. It doesn't feel like love between them more like afraid to be alone.
⦁ The Chief of Police, and King's father, read hard as stereotypical paper tigers. Their lines are so trope it's embarrassing.
Pros:
⦁ Pavel's acting has improved and it is in scenes with King where that is most noticeable. In fact, because Pavel has improved he is kind of making Pooh's shortcomings more glaring. The actor playing King frankly is a better actor than Pooh and that is why it is such a loss that Singha/King don't have a deeper fleshed out backstory.
⦁ The supporting police force cast, and how they are handling the case (aside from a few what the hell missteps), is above average.
⦁ The makeup, for the ghosts, is much to my surprise consistently done well.
⦁ The cinematography is ongoingly up to the task. The show looks good.
Sadly, might be as good as it gets. How could they save it? Let go of pleasing the fandoms and go for a good story! They would need to pivot and reveal Thup as the killer. Then end with the possibility of King and Singha reconciling (maybe after King risks his life for Singha and kills Thup). Otherwise, it will end in an all to predictable way.