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Is that really Hyun Wook singing in Ep 4? It's not the kind of voice I'd expect him to have.

For real. They give high ratings to shows a high schooler could do a better job of writing but give poor ratings to actually decent shows. Makes no sense.

I bawl every time the pets come up 🥹

Agree. I don't think I'm gonna like it without Suho in the picture. I rather a continuation that included Suho's path with Sieun's, even if their paths would be separated for some time before a reunion.

Money bag? I think you're confusing that scene with the bullies he befriended. I don't think Suho ever asked him nor anyone for money. At most he just asked for people to eat dinner with him or to ride to work with him. But he definitely didn't care about getting money out of others. He didn't even want Beomseok to pay off the thugs from the first half.

This. He truly was just jealous of Suho. He was cool without being a bully, so at best people liked him and at worst, people knew not to fxck with him. Perfect setup and Beomseok hated that he wasn't like that himself. And he read into things that weren't serious... like Suho not following him back or taking pics with Sieun. The boy was barely on IG with only 6 pics to his account.

Agree. There were too many chances he was given to just vent and explain what he was feeling and he refused to. Both Sieun and Suho tried to help him out and he just rejected it. He even projected his insecurities onto Suho, who was right about him. Beomseok rejected their trio because he so badly wants to be "cool" and "popular" and thinks the bullies own that persona. And he's jealous of Suho having clout without being a bully. Suho is what Beomseok wanted to be but failed to do. Shame.

I was so excited for this show but absolutely required insane levels of disbelief suspension. Even the plan to hide the killer questions inside people's bodies was overkill. These TEENS were DEALING DRUGS via social media DMs. How the fxck was that safe and secure but one question from a CSAT required TWO SURGERIES to get out of their carriers??????

No way. No fxckin' way. And you can't even have a reasonable discussion because people take every critique as a personal slight rather than at face value.

Stans really need to get a life. Y'all are unpaid internet warriors for a man who doesn't know nor care that you exist. Relax and stop policing everyone's opinions.

Anyway, the movie is alright. Not award nor buzz worthy. Its appeal is straying from what is assumed to be the limits of most Korean entertainment. We're watching Korean immigrants in another country and for once, it isn't the US or Europe but Latin America. That's honestly its main selling point and exactly why they titled it Bogotá.

The story is a bit flat. It leaves characters and their relationships with each other unclear. Motivations unclear. Time jumps with no clear backfill on how we got here and why this time period is important. I left feeling like I was watching a slice of life film but instead of the typical "coming of age" or "monotony of life" kind of story, we got a crime boss in a foreign country. Slice of life dramas are usually plotless and more about the character experiencing random events. That's what this kinda felt like. A blip in the 10 years of Kook-hee's life in Colombia.

I agree. I think the quick dismissal people have because there's no resolution is ironically being highlighted in the show: humanity's desperate need to have answers and certainty.

This is exactly why I'm hoping for an alternative, tragic ending rather than a cookie-cutter happy ending where things are neatly wrapped up. I'm a firm believer that not every story has a happy ending and I enjoy the creative liberties of artists who like to take the unconventional paths and show us something different. I'll tune in for S3.

Same, I love Kyung-sook and Do-hee's friendship. Completely at odds with one another to potential lifelong best friends. I love a good friendship theme.

I agree on the romance. I never saw this chemistry everyone speaks of, not for Eugene nor Yi-heon. I didn't need the romance plot so I'm fine if it goes nowhere. But I did enjoy watching Eugene the most on this front. I feel like his face conveyed so much with no words that he became intriguing to watch from the moment he was introduced to Hye-joon.

I'm half way through but Eugene nails that awestruck, "magnetically attracted to you for no explainable reason" look. Most actors either look blank but intense or give "deer caught in headlights." His was a perfect balance of "my interest is piqued and I'm soaking it in" and "I must remain subtle." I haven't seen a good facial read in a while. He'd do well in a romance drama. I should look him up.

I think the fickleness of the general public is part of the point. Citizens are so easily swayed by optics and have short memory banks. You only need to say or do one wrong thing for people to turn against you because they lack critical thinking skills and never realize that politicians are battling each other, the corporate elite, conflicting constituencies, as well as their own goals and morals. I'm not saying this to paint them in a sympathetic light but rather acknowledge the reality. At best, you'll get a politician with good intentions but poor or inconsistent execution because they're battling too many foes and inconveniences. At worst, you get the same greedy, selfish bastards who are there to get theirs and tell everyone else to fuck off.

100% agree. I dislike dramas that end very cookie cutter. I don't need a happy ending, nor do I need a morally righteous one. I'm totally fine with unhappy endings, fine with grey morals, fine with there being losers and tragedies. Why? Because that's real life.

These are my favorite dramas because I find them thought-provoking with lessons that could and should be applied to our real lives. It is incredibly difficult to be a leader, especially the leader of an entire nation. You are never going to be perfect because somewhere along the line you will piss somebody off and become the "worst" to them.

It is unrealistic to expect that dirty players can only be handled by clean tactics, just like you said. You have to be a mad dog to stop another mad dog sometimes. But it is more satisfying to ACKNOWLEDGE that fact, than ignore it or come up with some convoluted plot twist to make the anti-hero look infallible in the end. I hate that because a true moral character would also judge themselves against those same morals! Not find justifications for why they get to suspend them. That just makes them no different than the villains. If anything it makes the villains look better because they're honest about being the bad guys.

Him being a bad guy was one of the central points of the series: everyone pretends they'll defend victims until the perp is someone you refuse to believe.

The nicest, kindest, sweetest looking man can still have the capacity to do major harm. And he, like every other rapist in the series, was a coward who thought they could run away from punishment. JD is only "different" in that he thought he deserved to decide his own "atonement" making him arrogant asshole (like he himself admitted) who could side step his punishment.

Making him the ultimate villain is exactly the point because it is the only way for your disbelief to hit as hard as it did and make you question: why does everyone default to protecting the perp and dismissing/smearing the victim? It wouldn't be the same for any other character.

SA has rarely ever been just a stranger in the bushes. It is most often someone we know, someone we least expect to violate us. They target familiars because they are easy to confuse and easy to discredit.

I don't think you paid enough attention. YJ was already friends with HJ and living with her and JD. She had multiple scenes where she explained her actions/decisions post-rape. It isn't that hard to understand. You don't have to agree with her reasoning but it isn't hard to understand nor was it ignored by the writers.

OP; ETA: One of the major twists is the source for a lot of negative reviews and I'm certain many either dropped it or didn't really process what was happening. You MUST suspend your disbelief and take it at face value because a) story-wise, everything gets addressed by the end and b) it is applicable to real life and your disbelief IS EXACTLY THE POINT! Your reaction is needed to finally shatter the resistance to acknowledging the depths and complexity of human depravity in order for the world to change for the better. This writing choice is actually very purposeful. And it would never hit the same if it played out differently.