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That’s okay, we can just agree to disagree on that part. I completely understand why you don’t see it as morally gray, and I can respect that perspective.

I’m not disagreeing with you. I personally do not believe he did anything that definitively warrants the labels “groomer” or “predator.” I also agree that, IMHO, she chased him, even at a young age, and he eventually gave into a relationship once she became of age. But it’s also fair to say he should’ve known better and maintained clearer boundaries because they knew each other while she was a minor.

I don’t think he’s responsible for her death, But morally gray character? Side-eyeing him for getting into a relationship he probably never should’ve allowed to happen? That I absolutely understand and agree with.

I also said from the beginning that her family seemed more interested in money and public destruction than actual justice, and they should be held accountable for what they put KSH through as well.

Which is what I meant earlier if you look at the timeline SHE admired him clearly for years. Yes, she was young and impressionable, but let’s not pretend younger people are incapable of having genuine feelings, obsessions, or making their own choices. At the same time, as the older adult, it was still HIS responsibility to maintain clear boundaries.

It’s entirely possible a friendship or bond developed over time and later crossed into morally gray territory. Questionable character of him? Absolutely. But “waited until legal” and “proven predator/groomer” are NOT automatically the exact same thing. NO matter how anyone spins it, morally wrong vs. legality are two different things. People need to stop emotionally labeling the two together.

I didn’t see where you stated your thoughts on her cause of death.. and I was referring to all the comments about him being a “murderer” not directly you..

Their whole relationship timeline is indeed questionable. I won’t deny that. Him being the adult, really needed better boundaries. Labeling him a creep? I’m not gonna argue with people on that. Morally questionable? Sure, understandable take.

But groomer/pedo? That’s a much heavier accusation that people are treating like absolute proven fact when a lot of the public evidence is proven falsified, assumptions, and disputed timelines.

And saying he is directly responsible for her death? No. That’s where I think people are taking it too far. Her struggles were unfortunate and far more complicated than reducing everything down to him being the sole villain.

Maybe “scrutinize” was the wrong word to use. I get why people think the age gap was weird considering she was freshly legal and why better boundaries should’ve been set. I’m not arguing that part. I just don’t think “this age gap feels uncomfortable” automatically equals “grooming is proven.” You can look at the overall dynamic without jumping straight to the worst possible conclusion.

Two things can be true:
He should’ve been more careful as the older adult, AND just because she was younger doesn’t automatically mean she gets a complete pass for every thought, feeling, or choice under the idea that “she was a child so she didn’t know any better.” You can acknowledge a power imbalance without acting like she had zero awareness or responsibility for her own feelings and actions at all.

Honestly, the bigger issue is how young stars are exposed to very adult environments so early without enough guidance or protection from the adults around them, including parents and the industry itself.

I seriously cannot fathom how people are so oblivious to moral values vs facts like you said. I just can’t.

This is ridiculous. He dated her once upon a time and because he’s rich and famous when she got into financial trouble and created her own issues (DUI) He is at fault? Age gap weird? To some people.. Yes. Nothing illegal. How do you know HE waited for her to turn legal? Why don’t people scrutinize her interviews about how much she idolized him? Was she young ? Yes.. in the industry she was in, she was not oblivious to what she was doing or feeling. Who failed her? Her parents. They waited till her death to bring it to light.. if it was an issue when her DUI happened, when they dated it should have came out.. as a parent you would walk to hell to protect your child.. they didn’t.. I don’t know why people can’t see that. In the time they dated, her DUI incident, to when she passed- how much time/years passed in between? He owes her nothing. Even for the sake of “a creepy older ex” still owes her nothing. Why isn’t anyone questioning her ex husband? Her managers? Any other adults in her life? Tell me where an ex is obligated or responsible to care for you when you’re down and out?

Don’t bother with this rage baiter. Clearly they’re continuing to spread misinformation and when that doesn’t work they resort to name calling as if that makes their case any better.

Society loves to spread hate and run with false narratives. He was the bigger name in the industry so tearing him down all for entertainment. It’s disgusting how little humanity is left in the world. The same vile people that condemned her when she was going through that nightmare were the same screaming “justice for Sae Ron”. This was a sad situation and the focus should have been to honor her memory, instead she will be remembered for this. It’s extremely heartbreaking.

I said this from the very beginning.. sounds like she was absolutely obsessed with him for years.. he finally gave her a chance, whether that morally was right because of their history and age difference is what it is… but it didn’t work out and she never stopped chasing him.. unfortunately her demons overshadowed her and she lost the will to continue the fight.. who’s at fault??! All these online bullies that wouldn’t leave her alone as she tried to atone for her mistakes.

Totally agree. IMO, CZY not fit any strong ML roles. Hidden Love is perfect for him, but any roles where the ML is suppose to be fierce and powerful, I couldn’t see it. Same as Fated Hearts, I liked the show , his acting was fine, but his looks do not match a strong looking character.

Because haters are down rating all episodes even all the ones that aren’t aired yet..

Yes, CXX is the ML but there’sa rumor saying the original ML was suppose to be CZY (Fated Hearts) so the down rating may have something to do with haters..

I read somewhere because the ML was suppose to be someone else… so many ppl are not happy about that saying that other actor would have been better. Guessing that might be a reason the ratings dropped so quick

Just Wow… I’ve stepped away from the comments for a while and came by to see the latest update and tthe hate coming from both sides is suffocating…

The bottom line is…

KSR - was a young girl who left this world too soon at the hands of her own. Whatever was going on in her life led her to this decision. As tragic as it was… I still stand by the fact no one forced her, no one made her. SHE did it.

An ex she dated years ago…. I don’t understand the logic why he should be held accountable. Whatever their story was, it was over and done with.

KSH - was the epitome of the perfect celebrity in the public eye. Perfect personality, good looks, and THE most sought after actor.. His fall from grace is a shame.

Now, was he really as perfect as his image was made out to be? Most likely not… is he the monster many are accusing him of? while he’s not as great as he seemed.. he’s probably not that despicable either... most of these celebrities really have to hide everything good and bad about themselves for fear of being cancelled.

So who’s to blame?
This whole scandal proved one thing…

Public opinion will be judge, jury, and executioner… Society and South Korea entertainment industry. It . is brutal. These actors and actresses breathe wrong and they can be cancelled. It’s utterly ridiculous…

I’ve said the same. This whole drama is nothing but a witch hunt fueled by questionable evidence created for the sole purpose of igniting more chaos.

Every picture, video, text message paints one side of a story that may or may not be true. .. and the public is doing with it exactly what it was meant to do - be judge, jury, and executioner before truth can be verified because at this point no one cares for the actual truth

That’s an asinine comment. Having compassion for the situation doesn’t mean the parents get a pass for their failures.

Let’s stick with the narrative the parents only knew about the relationship after discovering the military letters at what, when she was 17 /18 years old? Where was the anger for her honor then? Didn’t they allow it to continue because he promised to marry her? After they broke up… Why didn’t they ask for justice then? When her DUI incident happened .. where were their public pleas for forgiveness? Why didn’t they publicly defend her and sue the YouTubers for harassing her when she was alive? When GM “demanded” she pay pack her debt… where were the parents cries for acknowledging KSR as a founding member then?

Excusing her parents because they’ve gone through enough? NO. I for one second do not believe this circus wasn’t about money.

KSH may be to blame for being a creep who started a relationship with someone he shouldn’t have. Hate him for that.. But he’s not to blame for her death.

As sad as the situation is…. The only one responsible for her death is KSR .

What needs to change are the laws. All this “Justice” outcry should be focused where it’s truly needed: BE ANGRY at the industry for exposing young girls to scripts as love interests or mature content and then not emotionally, mentally preparing them how to handle it or keeping them safe.

Again, brands will drop you for less than that. As long as there’s CONTROVERSY that will hurt their reputation in the public eye - which currently KSH is absolutely embroiled in negative stigma - warranted or not, brands will not stick around to find out - THIS is a justifiable probable cause somewhere in the contract with these brands and likely why he’s been dropped. Concluding it is absolutely due to fraud is an unfounded statement.

Regardless if it’s proven, KSH, while not LEGALLY wrong for dating an adult he MOST LIKELY have been flirting with since she was 15 and then waiting for her to be legally an adult, makes him a creep - ethically and morally.

Where I find a problem with this whole situation is condemning him SOLELY RESPONSIBLE for her death. KSH IS AT FAULT FOR BEING A CREEP. KSH IS NOT AT FAULT FOR KSR DEATH.

However sad it may be, SHE ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER OWN ACTIONS.

EVERYONE WHO WAS CLOSE TO HER FAILED HER
Failed to see her suffering when she was alive.

Failed to stand up for her when she was alive and being harassed by the media.

Failed to help her during her most difficult situation- (DUI).

Failed to stop her from dating an older guy

Failed to teach and guide her through a teen’s emotions exposed to misconstrued scripts of love and romance (acting)

All this pointing fingers, hate in the name of justice, and crocodile tears now is pointless .. the only fitting justice now is letting her rest in peace and fighting the good fight to prevent other young actresses from the same fate.

It is the entertainment industry as a whole that needs to change. It is for all the people who knew and did nothing because the money was right. Blame is on them not one creepy actor.

GM is doing damage control. Which is what an agency is suppose to do for its artists. Inconsistencies does not equate fraud. Did they intentionally and knowingly make absolute false statements to deceive?

There are inconsistencies to both sides claim. I stick to facts and not what “he said” or “she said”. I stick to actual evidence not stories or opinions on why he did or said this .

Again until undeniable facts come out, all this negativity is a narrative painted by rumors and fueling the fire.