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Secret Garden ...the man is rich the woman is poor, working hard and smarter and she "change" her man fro arrogant snobe man to loving and caring guy...if i remember right she began this career of stunt because of the other man she liked ...but i'm not sure it's already a lot of years....i'm not sure she is so strong as tyou present her,
don't forget also her attitude through this guy she likes...and she doesn't even know...the actor...
any way yes, compare to other kdrama she is stronger.
i liked Kdrama once at those year 2007-2012 because women were stronger and it was refreshing, but it's more complex than that and what they show you, it's the subcontext that count at the end. all those small things in the process..not only the beginnig or the end. in general in Kdrama women are weak and in reality they are realy really disciminate, so i'm not sure that a tv show or film can even present somthing that is so far from the truth and reality , and that they even doesn't understand.
if a woman were really strong in reality they could have benn protrait her like she is...but how can they know if it's not happening anywhere in Korea?
i think also this list is wrong , if you really want the real list you can see it in the unpopular or under rating shows that didn't had the rating or translation , why?
because it's really can be sad and beyond their prespective, they can't like drama that they don't understand.
they see reall strong woman ( good example is The Greatest Wedding..the women bring the baby a lone and doesn't wat to get married to the father until the end ...even if he show her love and teers...this is really a strong woman compare to those other dramas.

this drama is not just another Kdrama , at all. the idea behind it it's very relate to developed Korea .
This is really the begining of the end (of humanity) it's a reflection of the future and it's very frightening, most humans doesn't even understand themselves enough so when AI start to show power they will eventually control all humans, even now there are more lonely people than ever, and it's growing and growing each year.in Japan for example lonliness it's a epidemic. those who don't end their lifes buy a doll or a robbot to give themselves compeny, so here it's AI, it's advanced, it's another reality in your mind controlling from outside from a source that you don't even know. you don't have any power or freedom, in fact you lose the small amount of free will you have(if you have it at all). most people will be lonely and will live in this state they need hologram to give them the illusion of love. there will not even humans anymore it's kind of human-robots.

No...it's not what i mean, there is a different between "want" and "need" , strong woman doesn't "need". other female animals can stand on their own, there also animals that the male is the one that folow after the female, but in aother animals teritory(as humans also animals) female and male are equal, but with humans the males build a story that the women is weak and need the men, btw it's based on research and it's not even things i was aware about before, after the research i understand more about Kdrama in general. and btw the dramas reflect well the South korean mind of state,it's not my illusion or opinion, women are way way behine, the goal is to get married and be accepted by men, i can't get into details now on each drama...but there is a lot that use it to fullfil fantasy of men and not even women ,

i understand you in that you want to enjoy and to watch those drama give you plesure, but in the long run for female teens it's not a good drama at all, it's put them in a bad state.
in some way like a lot of other women you don't really understand yourself enough to realise it, not your faulte, but you probebly didn't grow n with strong family that show that women are equal to men, in your sub conceius you thing different from what you writing.

thanks

is there hq virsion of the 12.5 ep?

there was a reserch on "strong women" in american films from the 80's, it show the woman are very independent and strong but at the end she always give up to the man and cralling back to him like she is nothing. i think the Korean drama is a remake of 80's of those american films. in the past (and from time to time even now) i like them the best because the woman are storng but still admit she is weak and need a man, but after you reserch and understand yourself and your culture more , read about it an learn you understand that everything they sell you is nonsence, you realise that women in those drama aren't strong at all, and in real life woman can live without a man, she can be sad with or without, but still she is a live. to sum it up- she is weak in all of those dramas but still presented like she is strong- it's just an illusion to feed the beast ( the beast=all those who want the women stay weak)

all mature women should ban those dramas and be smart enough to do that ...i think you are a guy or teen?! anyways i think it's a regresion in Japan it wasn't like that all the time, there are good drama that present strong and independent women, but nowdays it's start regretion...i hope it will not last long, but every view and every comment like that one a bove make women dumber and wicker

yes 1996 i know...

indeed

What do you mean?

because they favour men above women in general

You are so right.
the thing is it's for female viewers that doens't have any self asteem, and rase by violence enviorment , and it's a typical 2020 drama, it's become worse latly and not the opposite, in matter of fact they had before a lot of drma that the women were strong and independent but in the last 2 years somthing has changed, they started to remake Mangas, that are very sterotypic and dicriminate and use women , if you look it's started when cofee and vanila drama, the difference that it was in some asspect funny or grotest, but here it's not funny at all...it's just point all the viwers to believe that women doesn't have any brain at all.
people should stop watching those dramas.

I was bored and give it a shot, its a dissaster, really i want to puke only from thinking about it. first of all they using young actress for this role, because only young actors could do it,
in the recoomandation in this drama there is "Itusura na kiss" it is the same identical plot and ideas, stupid girl fell inlove with a young doctor, it's just stupid in so many levels, the difference between this and the other one is that it's not funny at all.
if you go and umillihate woman intelligence at list you should laugh on it,, or make all the characters dumb and stupid, but in this drama it's not funny in any way, it's quite depressing.
the yoing actress look like she is 14 or 15 years old, she is dumb i want to know ok you are dumb and the man of course is really smart,
can't it be the opposite in asian dramas??????? can't it be that the man will be the dumb one???? the woman will be the doctor?
it would be refreshing,, but aoubivously they will not do such a plot because women in general abused over and over again, i matter of fact the even so get to used to it when they feed it by watching this crap. they even not aware of the impact they have, so to watch stupid woman for no reason without even get some humor for women that are the only viewers of it,,,it's quite interesting,
in general "Itsuru na kiss" are also not funny, because it's a remake of other asian version that are. if i'm not mistaken the original is Twian. i think that Japanese are in the extreme of depressing women and using them also in other disturbing ways,for example in the porn industy. and that is why women there doesn't want even to bring children in japan.
the issue with that and the connectin to this drama is very close. why? because when you watch this drama you are also discriminate women and also help those mean people to conteanue and disciriminate women and use them as an object and a tool.
you just should stop watching this crap

it's not fair that Jittaleela Suppanad doesn't get a lot of roles...why they abondend lesbians like they doesn't excist at all...you gave her small roles for what...she deserve more.

i'm not into lesbian movies, but i think the reason were that Kim looks tomboy. with cut hair..so it's make it very unique, it's like a guy with feminine atitude, so it's charming.
i wish there were more like that, it's like women in general don't have nothing like men, with all the bl wave women are ignored in the lgbt community, it's like they don't ecxist at all...
i were searching for more films like that ,almost none, we have yes or no 2+ 2.5,, and we have "girls love 1+2+2.5" and that it...all the rest are not in high quality or with bad/sad ending or it's too reall, nothing sweet out there, compare to bl for gays...it's pisses you off to watch the descrimination.

if you know more films i would like to know.

First episode is quite good it felt like it's somehow different plot,
i always liked the main male actor is very cute , i care for him because his first drama i really like with the romance with the old lady that were his manager, it were very cute drama,
also his vocal (in singing) is amazing,
but the end of the first episode of this drama was not. i think they fell into a trap of cliche, it were too much ...i think i will drop it...don't know.

HCTM ending was terible, and that is why i even forget all this drama..although it's had a good start .but here i Think the ending was good, not amazing, still Mew for me was beeter than his previous drama, in matter of fact he were here very good until the end. even i don't like is personality i appriciate him in his motivation and acting skills as a begginer. the only part i didn't like was the bridge scene...it was too much.not fell real. anyway the drama was very good its not the best out there when you think of other bl...maybe because it's very hard to satisfied with a lot of episodes. for example when i think of my top list...most of the bl drama i like were short and sweet. like pornographer that is epic...here is long and sweet but you can't skip the cons, it's not a master piece or something,. i like this drama a lot don't get me wrong, but still it have shortcoming in general ,maybe you are right maybe it's the ending, it's kinda fogy for me i remember only the bridge part ...and if i want to remember more i need to make some effort. in general overall i don't have any complains and i would like to watch season 2.

anyway i only waiting for Type an tharn...because this drama not my cup of tea