J100

Dropped.
A banal plot, banal acting, and characters that are boring and especially frustrating.
Okuno So’s acting is irritating; his character is annoying. This was already the case in the first season, and now it keeps dragging on with the same problems.

For example, the character is in a relationship and asks himself internally: why is my partner acting strange?
In a normal, mature world, he would ask his partner:" is something going on? Tell me—I feel something isn’t right and you’re not saying anything. Is something happening at work? Are you going through something?"

Communication can also extend drama, not end it.
This dragging out of time and the use of lack of communication as unnecessary drama no longer works these days. It’s boring, exhausting, bland, uncreative, and banal.

This conflict of one partner work promotion is very worn out in their series.
They are capable of creating a different plot, something new. Not everyone is constantly offered jobs abroad…

But of course there’s also an economic consideration here. Chances are this series exists in the first place for that reason.
After all, they’re not interested in the viewers but in the cosmetic products they want to advertise.

In any case, I’m fed up with it.

It wasn’t just me who said it; I was replying to the person who started the thread.

Did he study acting at university for four years?

Right, I felt the same way, which is why I dropped the series.

It is a combination of several issues. There is poor editing, for example the two hospital scenes were really strange and forced, with the towel scene dragging on uncomfortably long. On top of that, Dunk’s acting is very bad, and here it takes on a different weight. This is no longer a fluffy romantic series but a relationship between two grown adults, and in that case it simply does not work.
Of course, it is also possible that there is no longer the chemistry they had before. I notice that they are not the only couple this is happening to; it also happened with Off and Gun in their current series. There is no chemistry, but if there is a strong plot or some added value, you can somehow overlook it.

Dropped after ep 5.
Dunk is handsome, but he really needs to study acting professionally, because it is not working, especially when they are already an older bl couple and not university students characters

It was fine until episode 5, but now it has turned into a joke in the romantic sense. There does not seem to be much chemistry between them, and it is simply very strange. For example, the hospital scenes are especially odd.

This may suit viewers who enjoy suspense and investigations and place less emphasis on the acting of the main characters and the romantic element.

Right, something has been happening over the past year!!! it is not normal. I do like BL, but it has become excessive in my view, with no balance whatsoever, as if making regular romance series is no longer worthwhile for them.

They are charming together and have purely "friends" chemistry, not that of a couple who fell in love. There is no passion there.
Still, they are lovely .
Add to that Gun has a limitation as an actor: he struggles to express complex emotions and to portray a layered character like Jira. His facial expressions are generally identical throughout the entire series.

Episode 8 was great, but it seems that they no longer have chemistry;

I feel sad for all these young people. I am saddened by their exploitation, and the entire industry repels me-not because there is an inherent problem with these things, but because of 2 issues.

First, it seems to me that actors like Poom, for example, simply wanted to be actors in conventional dramas; that is how it appears when considering the previous series he acted in.
I cannot speak on his behalf, but this is based on his past.

Second, they go too far-there are acts that cross the line, reaching physical contact with intimate areas. Not implication, but the act itself.

I do not think the concept itself is the problem; the problem is how far they take it and how it has become a normalized form of exploitation.

Beyond that, there is a kind of obsessiveness and an insatiable appetite on the part of these production companies, as if it defines an entire community; it borders on a certain pathology.

Let’s see where the series goes.

Homophobes or Chinese who do not like the Japanese, who knows.

I liked your phrasing.: "TV series have turned into commercials with living dolls."

There is no connection between your friend’s story- I am not talking about people who play with others and then marry someone they did not abuse; (and even in those cases I have serious doubts that they do not repeat their abusive behavior). In the current case in the series, he abuses him and uses him as a tool for revenge. This exists in many Asian series, but usually the revenge is directed personally at the target, not at someone else- a person completely unrelated to the situation. Especially when Toh repeatedly asks him not to lie and not to hurt him-he not only does not apologize for his actions or express any remorse or reflection (there is no scene in which he feels any guilt), he also continues along the same path.

Yes, that is what I meant; I only wrote physical abuse.

So far, two episodes in, and honestly I was pleasantly surprised. It is not something that makes me want to binge watch, but there are some genuinely hilarious scenes. I really like that kind of self aware humor.

I tend not to like characters who abuse others to the extreme and are then forgiven, because I do not believe in real change. I do not think someone who reaches that level of blatant abuse (Jimmy)deserves a second chance. Unfortunately, this is a series, and somehow this kind of resolution is accepted in Thai Bl.

It is quite possible that in American gay series, for example, this would never be acceptable, one of the few and rare advantages of American productions in that sense.

Thailand, on the other hand, still seems to struggle with this. It happened there in the early days as well with physical abuse. It took several good years before they stopped portraying brutal acts in coercive relationships and similar scenarios. Now it has shifted more toward psychological abuse, but it is still there.

Overall, it is realistic. It is not that these things do not happen in real life. There are people who are willing to forgive, willing to accept such behavior, and remain silent. There is no doubt about that. But in reality, that person never truly turns into a peaceful non abusive individual overnight.

Kad’s probably the best actor the Thai bl has had so far… very convincing.

I think they actually suffer from that. I still remember from before they became so popular, they made series about the demanding production companies, how the actors run from place to place trying to please them, can’t keep up, and end up collapsing. There was a whole wave of productions that exposed what goes on behind the scenes. Basically, I like imperfection, or perfection when it’s infused with some kind of value. So it’s also a question of what perfection even means. If someone wears makeup 24/7, that’s too perfect; but if a woman gets up without makeup, that actually feels more perfect to me because there’s a touch of truth in it. She doesn’t have to have full dark circles, but you get what I mean :).

I don’t like historical series. I’ve maybe watched two in my entire life, and the only one I truly loved, at a high level, was Jumong. At the time it was something extraordinary in terms of production, very beautiful, and I really loved it.

Every now and then they have gems, and at the moment it leans more toward the BL genre, because there still are no major corporations there demanding everything on their terms, so sometimes something watchable comes out. It’s rare, though.