Even If I didn't like it , until the end I have watched it skiping the most parts, because I still appriciate them, I think it was somehow one of the first bl that convinced me that there are real human being, that have bad habits and bad attitude and can deal with things until the end, Unlike others review I think that Uea character was well portraited and I understand his action every episode, I think he was even too much forgiving at times, but that is how people are.
I didn't like the actors for some reason that it's purely my taste, not sure it was the acting, but it could be the case, someone comment that Japanese need to remake it, probably I would like it better and even like the Japanese actors more , I'm nore sure if they are good actors, it could be that for me the King was not so tempting or seductive, and Uea was not so attractive, so all their bed scene was not for me at all, the part that need to be extreme like the reaction to after rape , I didn't think he was a bad actor, but I still couldn't feel his tears.
The biggest problem was the glossy production, the office looks like a modern office, their aprtments look glossy and luxuries, and it's not feel align with an avarage person in Thai , it was too glossy, feel like someone is filming it and you are not picking into other lifes,
It's happening a lot with Thai production latley, they think that if everything look expensive it will make the production more apealing. well it's not work like that.
Yes, I not only dislike the bitchy girlfriend trope, but hate how it signifies the worse trope of "I'm really…
I used to dislike his trop, thinking it's only a "trop" before but after I watched the film :"what is a woman" I don't dislike it, I am terrified. I don't think it's only a trop, it's more a mathod,brainwash, Friends told me about this problem for years alreay, that they want to mix genders and just wipe out women gender as we know it. and I didn't believe it, I just didn't believe what is happening now, so for me I was beyond surprise to find out that "women" os not women anymore in the western countries, I was sure that people tell me concpiracy theories, that it's BS, but It's not, it is real, and all this take part of it make me worry a lot. I still watch bl and enjoy watching, but on this drama I was suprosed because it came right after I have watche dthe movie and suddenly I was aware of what is going on , now I hate this series, I also can not watch this trop and skip it , or drop it.
I'm over the bitchy ex-girlfriend trope, too. But maybe for a different reason...Why do so many main lead (male)…
They are using Bi term for fan base so the actor will stay questionable on their fantasy and in reach for female fans. that are the majority. foundemently gays hate women and Lesbian hates men, because they are in a compatition in their imagination, they say to themselfs: if there is a real woman the guy will prefere her on instead of me, that is why they are trying to change the real female identity: "Woman" people in USA can not even answer what is a woman anymore, it is crazy, if you want to get into it watch "what is a woman" film and you understand. It could be not easy to watch, , it's just that there are a lot behind their intentions. I'm still pazzled about it, and don't understand why they are doing it really, but it is frightening, now that after years watching bl I see all this hate growing, it isn't changing, it's spreading out, I know that every trash drama need some evil character that will give a conflict, but I expect more from this drama that look in the beginning as somthing more real and authentic, I was wrong.
Im is doing a good job, I believe him, pluse is is extreme beautiful, but there is something off in episode 7, First they make all the scenes like he is dead, and it was for me an insult to viewers, who already expect more from the drama, as it started well, and was real, now they started playing cheap tricks, and it is going to the same SK cliches? They did trip on this episode, and then the same female trop that doesn't let go and a bitch, for me it's more then a joke, it is a dangerous move of the producers and mke me believe they are not legit, and their intentions are bad, as I found it all odd when they just stick to this plot of making female characters evil al the time, just for the sake of drama, After watching what is going on in USA nowdays, I believe it's not a SK drama fully and there are American invole in this production, and part of their scam to fool everyone. This is just getting crazy to use it again and again and again to their benefit. just a brainwash. At first I believed That SK is progressing, now I understand that progressive made this drama at the first place, just get over it that woman is a bitch and do everything to get the gay that doens't want her, it's beyond stupidity for the woman, it's lame lame trop and should be stop already.
Say you will not remember, don’t speak for rest of the others. Many people enjoyed this series and some only…
I fixed it by saying it's not a series to remember, frase to explain it's not special. offcourse there will be people who remember it like you and like all the fans, but most of the time even the dramas today that are good are mediocre , and hardly remembered, to be remembered you need to be probably above the others in many ways, but I'm sure it's not includes everyone all the time. Because I have watched SK for years I expect more, but the last couple of years proves they lost their charm and just stay on the safe side. here and there there are creative writers like TMS or The 8 sense, 8S I'm not could even considered as a bl, but more on drama, but I think they are something to be remembered because they are not the usuall kind , like they are out of the norm. There are lovley moments on this, but they are not genuine, they are just entertaining, for example the copy of the scene from the Ghost, it was nice, but it's stil a copy. all the plot is a copy of the same old plot we watched million of times before, just maybe not in bl, I can give you a long list of the same plot. but I will need to search the titles because they are not something to remembere:)
Say you will not remember, don’t speak for rest of the others. Many people enjoyed this series and some only…
Enoying is not enough , At the start it was ok , but overall it was not good, I will fix it to :its not something to remember, Maybe you will remember, I want to ask he actor if they even would remember, because it doesn't look they enjoy it so much.
Last 3 episodes were frustrating to watch , they should have learn from Eight sense producer and a writer, it is based on a webtoon, so I guess they could not make it better then it is, unless brought a actor who have acting skills, what G didn't have yet, but what can they do bringing Idols to more views, and viewers like it a lot, the idols, the young person that act cute, but I don't think a cute person act like that in that age, with his eyes movment all the time to exprese emotions it's couses me so much frustration, they didn't have any chimestry on too of that the last kiss was bad, overall it was just on of this drama no one will remember.
Characters in Thai BL are more entertaining because they are given more space, more flesh, more liberty and some…
I don't know where you get this information about "many of them are openly gay" and "couple on IRL" it's not true according to my search and it's mostly rummers and gossiping, or fan service, if you are talking about 3 or 5 openly gay , it's not "many", It is true they are more open in flesh ,but it is happening because they started bl productions long time a go , doing a lot of series you can not count more then anyone else, so it's time involve and not relate. They where entertaining even without this skin flash you talking about, when they started out, because it was "light" , it's not somthing heavy.
About the Hipocricy it's complex, Hipocricy is everywhere and even more now in open country like USA it's worse, because now they are so much open that extreme people judging everything that is gay with a "liberal" language, they sound politicly correct, but in fact they hate gays with all their guts. On SK it's different, the joke is that they made gay film on their 00's that were much more real and open then they are making now 20 years or more later. It could be the same problem that they have seen somthing is changing then take step backwards, taking more 20 years to open up again, now, after they see money flow to Thai they jump on the oportunity $$, Thinking to themselves "why we don't give the viewers some fake bl production, they will watch it anyway. " but overall stretching the limit is good, they will have to grow eventually.
Exactly! As a licensed clinician MFT, I long for the day that series do not just expose trauma but how to process…
It could be that its not only Thai, but Bl in general are changing now, there is a lot of critics and opinion, and because there are international viewers maybe even more than in the same country, They are reading the viewers critics. Last week I have watched "The eight sense" episode, I was very suprised to see a therapy session, it is new, There wasn't even once I;ve seen somthing like that in years and years, to add it on a bl, it is a break through.
True, the kiss felt not comfortable, and all this hugs are cute but the dynamic is not passionate, more like a…
After Chery Magic I convinced a kiss is a must, since then Jbl learn their lessons, but apperantly SK is still behind all the rest, Thai are a head of everyone. Korean are capble, even on their 00's films they were more open with gays then on latest bl, A good kiss it's already nothing today, it's like if you don't make a good kiss scene there is no point to make any romance series. If you check out old drama it was a pick then people complain and they even zoom in now just to make it clear: there is a kiss, but what they don't think about its on the quality.
I agree that there is some disconnect in the timeline or plot between the steamy hook up in ep 5 and the indifference…
Yes, It is a romance without a romance, I like the couple, that is why I keep watching, waiting maybe something will progress, but already on episode 7 and nothing happed , I didn't understand all of the episode, only part of it, I'm waiting for the subtitles
Even Though I don't like this drama , it is one of the best thing happned in Thailand from all the years I'm watching their dramas, it could be the first time they are dealing with somthing real and difficult and even they are solving it with with the law and moral, getting the message out! Up until now for years and years they just ignore rape crime, and even used rape as a dynamic of couples , this is not only the first time someone is getting punishment , but it also deal in rape in the family punishment that it is the most difficult and painful horror that can be to a person, It is a breaktrough that I'm not sure they even aware of their impact for the long run. maybe they are, maybe it was delayed so much time just because they wrap a serious problem with the typical bl entertaing., they even took it further with the bed scenes just to make it something you can watch, it is kind of a trap. I hope next time they will not have to give the audience a candy before dealing with reality.
Unlike others review I think that Uea character was well portraited and I understand his action every episode, I think he was even too much forgiving at times, but that is how people are.
I didn't like the actors for some reason that it's purely my taste, not sure it was the acting, but it could be the case, someone comment that Japanese need to remake it, probably I would like it better and even like the Japanese actors more , I'm nore sure if they are good actors, it could be that for me the King was not so tempting or seductive, and Uea was not so attractive, so all their bed scene was not for me at all, the part that need to be extreme like the reaction to after rape , I didn't think he was a bad actor, but I still couldn't feel his tears.
The biggest problem was the glossy production, the office looks like a modern office, their aprtments look glossy and luxuries, and it's not feel align with an avarage person in Thai , it was too glossy, feel like someone is filming it and you are not picking into other lifes,
It's happening a lot with Thai production latley, they think that if everything look expensive it will make the production more apealing. well it's not work like that.
foundemently gays hate women and Lesbian hates men, because they are in a compatition in their imagination, they say to themselfs: if there is a real woman the guy will prefere her on instead of me, that is why they are trying to change the real female identity: "Woman" people in USA can not even answer what is a woman anymore, it is crazy, if you want to get into it watch "what is a woman" film and you understand. It could be not easy to watch, , it's just that there are a lot behind their intentions. I'm still pazzled about it, and don't understand why they are doing it really, but it is frightening, now that after years watching bl I see all this hate growing, it isn't changing, it's spreading out,
I know that every trash drama need some evil character that will give a conflict, but I expect more from this drama that look in the beginning as somthing more real and authentic, I was wrong.
There are lovley moments on this, but they are not genuine, they are just entertaining, for example the copy of the scene from the Ghost, it was nice, but it's stil a copy. all the plot is a copy of the same old plot we watched million of times before, just maybe not in bl, I can give you a long list of the same plot. but I will need to search the titles because they are not something to remembere:)
Maybe you will remember, I want to ask he actor if they even would remember, because it doesn't look they enjoy it so much.
About the Hipocricy it's complex, Hipocricy is everywhere and even more now in open country like USA it's worse, because now they are so much open that extreme people judging everything that is gay with a "liberal" language, they sound politicly correct, but in fact they hate gays with all their guts.
On SK it's different, the joke is that they made gay film on their 00's that were much more real and open then they are making now 20 years or more later. It could be the same problem that they have seen somthing is changing then take step backwards, taking more 20 years to open up again, now, after they see money flow to Thai they jump on the oportunity $$, Thinking to themselves "why we don't give the viewers some fake bl production, they will watch it anyway. " but overall stretching the limit is good, they will have to grow eventually.
Up until now for years and years they just ignore rape crime, and even used rape as a dynamic of couples , this is not only the first time someone is getting punishment , but it also deal in rape in the family punishment that it is the most difficult and painful horror that can be to a person,
It is a breaktrough that I'm not sure they even aware of their impact for the long run. maybe they are, maybe it was delayed so much time just because they wrap a serious problem with the typical bl entertaing., they even took it further with the bed scenes just to make it something you can watch, it is kind of a trap. I hope next time they will not have to give the audience a candy before dealing with reality.