Janice

he's ethereal!

hilarious

i see yomna as actually being positive, telling people to give the drama a chance and decide for themselves whether they enjoy it or not. a lot of the positives reviews are buried under the torrent of negative (and extreme) ones by the same people. it isn't fair to call that a negative or toxic attitude.

perhaps i was just more invested in watching their business grow, how they overcame adversity, the family scenes (and sibling rivalries), plus the business and tech aspects and how they talked about the societal implications that come with rapid innovation. i also love how they managed to portray ML and AI in way that was new and fresh to k-dramas. in the midst of all of it i sometimes forgot that i was watching a drama bc of the insane realism. it was a drama that made me want to get up and start being more productive. i also really enjoyed watching the samsantech/cheongmyeong team put their heads together to solve problems. none of those things involved romance since sa ha said she didn't like office romances. hahaha

for some reason the love triangle didn't seem like a love triangle to me either. there were barely any romantic scenes between nds and sdm. most of their interactions consisted of them talking about work and the few romantic scenes that come to mind were them celebrating an achievement or progress in their start-up. the other reason is, honesty, i just didn't feel a strong chemistry between any the leads. unpopular opinion maybe.

ok, i see where you're coming from and why you're not satisfied.
but to give this drama a low rating because of one character written with poor development would be devaluing the many positives and well-written parts of the drama. the comment section makes it seem like this is a garbage show when it's not.

didn't yongsan not tell the team about hjp's advice because he held a grudge against jipyeong for "killing" his older brother? so you're saying you don't think yongsan is to blame for the contract going through, but dosan should've known better and owned up to their mistake?

in a real life scenario, a fight like that would get you arrested and I definitely don't condone it (hope it didn't come off that way) but it's a show. you can't make on-screen violence disappear. I don't think i can name a single kdrama where shit goes down and some guy doesn't start throwing punches out of nowhere, so that's why I didn't make a big deal out of it. he sure didn't deserve it though. poor jipyeong. :/

what if it's the same people making multiple accounts to skew the rating. :P
but yeah wholeheartedly agree! it's not as awful as everyone here seems to make it out to be. i'd recommend everyone who's on the fence to give this drama a go. i wasn't too invested in the love triangle, so i found it funny, relatable, and motivational.

for real where did they learn to do that?

first, "then blames yongsan for stopping hjp from calling them" wasn't it chulsan who blamed him first, not dosan?

yeah no, reacting with violence is always out of line; i feel bad for saying i just overlooked that scene since the fist fight plot device/trope is so overused in k-dramas during times when a man feels threatened. i'm guessing you're more mad about the fact that he initiated the fight. you think jipyeong didn't deserve it, right?

right before that, jipyeong was telling them to be pragmatic, but he did it in a harsh way, so i lowkey understand why dosan reacted strongly to his tone. it would've been wiser for jipyeong to be gentler and deviate from his usual telling it like it is approach, when someone's livelihood is on the line. i view nam dosan as this sensitive, yet naive, guy who holds strongly onto his personal values, which are his friends and dreams. from his pov, there was no empathy in jiypeong's tone, saying well it's your fault you tragically messed up, just accept it and move on, better yet, take the more lucrative option, give up on following your dreams, move to america and leave your friends. you ruined your life? boo hoo, that's the business world. in that moment, when he felt like the world was crashing down on him, i thought the least jipyeong could've done was be nicer with his delivery of advice, not always saying i told you so. it started to sound so pretentious. and no, i'm not saying dosan's upbringing caused his aggressive behavior or whatnot. just that being the perfect guy you expect him to be would be ooc since he wasn't raised with super chill, lenient parents who understood his dreams and passions. i don't see how the writers could've done that without changing his personality altogether.

we missed out on an apology scene that could've been thrown in to redeem him, but they showed that dosan was caring and thoughtful towards jipyeong in his own way, such as telling his parents to save food he likes to take back when he was staying at their house. he couldn't bring himself to express it to him face-to-face.

hmm i don't think he wanted to keep those letters because he was insecure. he was already confident after he returned, unless you don't think so. maybe they were his comfort item since they contained words of encouragement and were seemingly addressed to him. anywho, that was petty behavior., but if we are talking childishness, jipyeong can be equally as childish especially when it comes to dalmi. an example is that time he bluffed to dosan in the elevator that he was seeing dalmi to prevent him from going up to meet her? "a lot can change in 3 years" he said. reality? their relationship status hasn't changed. you can't exactly explain that either. i just laugh at their dumb bickering.

regarding growth vs regression, in what ways do you think he regressed? i think he had the potential to become a better person than who he turned out to be, but regressed sounds extreme. he sailed off without a map to silicon valley sort of against his will. remember how he initially didn't want to go, but it was dalmi who convinced him to by breaking up with him so he was left with no choice. i doubt he did anything in those three years besides code, boy really doesn't have a social life. haha... it gave him time to process the events, his feelings, and he came back more confident and adept at his job. that's the growth i was referring to.

i'm curious to know what kind of person you hoped dosan would've become in those years, how he could demonstrate that he learned from his mistakes. overall, i don't see him as perfect, but i wouldn't go as far as to label him as toxic as lot of people are doing.

while i agree dosan is not the best male lead, let's not forget he's actually really really socially awkward. good lord he was the type of guy who took every remark people said, analyzed it and pointed out what was wrong with it using logic. he never developed the emotional intelligence to talk to girls because dalmi was his first gf. i'm not saying this excuses him from having anger issues like punching jipyeong or the rude behavior towards authority (but come on, the stepfather really did them dirty), but if you take his past experiences and upbringing entirely into consideration, it kind of makes sense why the writers gave him a less-likable personality, one who's frustrated by those who put him down, making them write scenes where he couldn't handle situations nor his emotions well, to which, in my opinion at least, he eventually learned was wrong and grew from.
dalmi told him at the end that she likes him for him. when she praised dosan for "having big hands", in korean it means that someone is "generous (with both material possessions and ideas)". dosan always believed in her the most and never lost hope, i.e. chose dalmi over injae to be their ceo even when the odds were stacked against her, and always prioritized their business mission over fortune. that's why i just interpreted it as her willing to accept and forgive him for the lies and past wrongdoings. just my take though.

said no one except the writers of this show

omg now i have to go back and look for that. i was expecting a funny reveal scene or something but nope, we were robbed

they never showed the others finding out about chul san and sa ha's relationship!

am I the only one who thought sdm would find out the truth by running the handwriting app they built on the letters and the notes hjp gave her?

episodes 1-4 are subbed on youtube. some kind viewers in the comments shared a link to the rest of the episodes subbed on dailymotion which you can find here :) https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7vrdgg (ep 5)

Short and sweet drama that you can probably watch in one sitting

When I watched it, it was available with eng subs on the MangoTV app for all users, but it appears that they've made it VIP only now. Haven't been able to find an alternative yet.

Just finished. I'm at a loss for words.

Yeah. Loved it when Jojo said "ur being too clingy it's a turn off" cuz it was haha Though for me, he redeemed himself when he went four years without contacting her even though he was clearly still in love with her. I think he knows his boundaries, but is just very expressive towards the one he loves.

Started watching for Myungsoo, but pleasantly surprised at how much I'm enjoying this drama

You're right in that it was Marco who distorted the line between in-game and reality creating a bug. I just wish the writers gave Sejoo a greater role after his return. Bc this entire time, he was portrayed as this young all-knowing, genius character who essentially invented a game of magic haha... But he didn't contribute to the plot much when he programmed the whole thing.