lol so apparently the Duoban rating came out as a 6. People on weibo are complaining about how ridiculously low it is and when they check the reviews, it’s basically a bunch of antis complaining about how ugly ZYC and TSY are. Some people questioning whether these people even watched the drama, cause the drama definitely deserves higher. They like heat index is 9k and rating is 6, make that make sense. Well most people are expecting a reversal, they say the story is interesting, and clearly these people didn’t even watch the drama before giving it a rating.
So recent preview clip shows the scene where ML (YJL) goes to FL wedding to take her away. OMG was so cool and some pretty good lines out of it.
Originally was only gonna translate a snippet, but went for the whole segment. Please excuse the elementary school level translation here. The translation should be aligned with the subs.
Starting from sword scene: ML: Hold up ML: I’m back ML Dad: Today is your second brothers wedding day ML: If I don’t agree who dares to marry her ML Brother: Yan Jing Lan, what does it matter to you who I marry ML: Ying Ying (FL nickname), Let’s Leave ML Brother: 3rd Brother, where do you think your going? ~ML Brother gets push to the ground~ ML Step Mother: Even if you don’t care about Yan Family’s reputation, what about Ji Niang Zi (FL) reputation? FL: Yan Jung Lan, I was willing to marry him
ML: fine, since you already made the decision to marry into a Tiger den. Then if we change the groom, is that fine? FL: What do you mean ML: Marry me ML: Are you willing or not?
ML dad: This woman is to be married as your 2nd brother concubine. ML: The ceremony has not been completed ML: So she still isn’t my 2nd brothers ML: You threaten her with her family ML: The people forcing her to marry ML: ARE YOU GUYS!!!! ML: You treat her as chip (tool) ML: I regard her as a treasure ML: I, Yan Jing Lan ML: Must marry her
Someone: this?
ML: Marry Me ML: Are you willing? FL: I’m willing
It’s not in the TikTok but the next scene: ML: Good, I’ll marry you
The original actor Zhang Hao Wei is currently being investigated for solicitation of prostitution and tax evasion. Originally this drama was suppose to air much earlier, but China censorship and his scandal, so they had to change his face with another actor via AI in order to pass the screening.
Yeah usually around the end. But there are previews indicating that there was some issue with FL marriage. Like she was about to marry someone else and ML comes steal her. He asked if she was willing to marry him or not. So it might happen around the middle , as there were scenes where it seemed like they slept separately on what looked like a wedding room. So prediction that they might pretend to marry to help FL get out of being forced to marrry someone else. And judging by YJL personality he probably used that time to the extreme and flirted/seduced her.
Omg it was a wrong choice to start this early!!! Looking at all these preview of JYY and YJL 😖😖😖😖😖, they’re so cute. But the wait… I usually wait until a drama ends before starting but couldn’t resist since it’s TSY and ZYC, two of my favorite actor/actresses.
I wasted time reading the novel and it’s totally different so idk what to expect. Like besides some character names, almost everything plot wise is very different.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the duke didn’t like the ml in the novel right?
The duke was fine with ML in the beginning, as he knew the guy really cared for his daughter. ML even saved him, when he almost fell into a trap on the battlefield. The duke was on SML side and known the guy longer, so hes on the opposite side against ML in terms of politics, but ML never did anything directly against him and did a lot of protect him.
Duke was thankful to ML because due empress trying to marry the 3rd prince to her, the duke had to find any guy to marry her to prevent her from entering the palace and ML stepped up. Later on as the duke found out more about him, he realized how smart/strategic this guy is and was more wary of him and worried for FL as she was to marrying him. FL was “attempted” to portray as smart, but more than half time she was a person who doesn’t know what’s going on or how to resolve. The duke was worried about FL losing out against him because of how amazing he is, because he really could have gone better. FL was under age (by ancient Chinese standards) so he was also worried about whether ML would break his promise of not doing it until she became of age (15) or much older. Which ML did and she was pregnant at 14, and that caused complications because she was too young to be giving birth. The duke didn’t like him because of that and I didn’t like that aspect as well.
To be far, I like novel and drama ML, the real big difference between the 2. Was novel ML was more confident and a very rational, as political he was the most ideal person he was cunning, patient, and strategic. Really his only flaw was FL, her troubles seemed to always set back his political career. There was a time where she was away from him, he almost gone insane, but it shows how high up politically he could have gone and fast without FL troubles. The one scene I wished they added was where he asked FL how far in the ranking does she want him to go. Which FL replied ofc the Top scholar, ML say ok I’ll become the top scholar. Then when it became time to release the result, instead of looking at the board, he would be looking at her. Cause he’s confident he’ll be on top and his reasoning for going for the top was her so watching her happy would have made him happy. The one thing I liked they removed in drama ML was his obsession with FL, if yall think SML obsession was bad, novel ML was on the same level as him.
So from spoilers on twitter from clips(probably today). Mingzhu will try to frame Yining. I was hoping they go…
Latest episode came out - she and FL resolve their problems and they all good now. I actually like the direction they went with MingZhu, she did cause problems, but it was mostly minor offenses. She was jealous of all the attention FL was getting and worried for herself, cause she’s only an adopted daughter, so she did things to lower the likeness of the grandma and father towards FL but overall not a bad person. She tried to ruin FL stores reputation at the party by putting itch power/rash in the handkerchief everyone used to wash their hand . And she stepping on FL dress leaving a huge dirt stain during the party.
SPOILER FOR THE NOVEL:
Novel MingZhu did a lot worst, she almost got FL raped. She was spoiled and willing to do a lot of stuff just to ruin FL. In the end they do resolve their differences, and MingZhu will help FL. But they are not on friend terms or as close as shown in the drama. Ming Zhu understood it way too late that FL never had any intention of kicking her out. So by the time she realized she was reduced to really being treated like an outsider (no room, no servants, only purpose is to tend to grandma, and no say/power to run anything). Not even grandma liked her as much anymore. The only reason she was kept around, was cause her biological families situation was way too messy.
2. Luo x (the one who died) should be Luo Huaiyuan. That's his name in the novel. And he's actually alive too…
Yeah she was really powerful and I liked her character. However I do get why the scriptwriters took her out of the drama.
In the story, her sister was so powerful FL grew up without worry, and she married someone from an influential family. Due to her sister no one in the family dared to treat her bad and sister always checked up on her too. Like in the drama, grandma is influential, but not all powerful to have stuff go her way, so without the sister being there, FL lost her most powerful backing. Thus would give reason why she was sent away at a young age, because if sister was there. No way Concubine Qiao would have dared to frame FL. Or even if she did, sister ran the household and even when she married if anything happened to FL she always came running to save her. I did not like FL in the novel, she always needed saving and lots of the times she got in to those troubles herself. For a person who lived 2 lives dying her first life due to murder and 20 years observing the future you would think she be more alert or smarter. Nope, in the beginning it was fine but as the story progress, disliked her more and more. This may be part of her characterization cause she was really protected/spoiled by her family espically her sister. So I guess they took her sister out as a way to give reason for her independence.
Also dang that LJX is definitely crazy enough to turn his room into a 'newlywed' room. *goosebumps* Now, that's…
Well they never mentioned his age, so I assumed he’s probably like a few years older than her. In the novel they were only a few years apart before reincarnation. After the reincarnation this scene was a crazy, because he was like late 20s - early 30s and she was 14 (or younger) when something similar to this scene appeared.
I have decided to wait till 27th October when it all aires to watch the rest of the episodes from 25-32 might…
I feel you bro - I usually wait until all the eps come out before watching. But YouTube recommends was really tempting and I love the actor. Now I’m suffering TT-TT. So now I just joined in with everyone’s discussions and I’ve been refreshing weibo to see if there’s any spoilers.
Alright peeps we made it. After almost 30 episode the latest preview show truth being revealed that FL isn’t Luo family’s daughter. With barely 10 eps left I wonder how they gonna wrap things up
I think the ambiguous era/phase started long ago lol. From the moment, ML found out he's not her sister, I feel…
In modern ofc that doesn’t account for much. But in historical times if she was caught being way too close to her brother, rumor could spread and ruin her reputation. So you see that he’s trying to be close , but she still think they are sibling. Hence ambiguous stares and closeness that is shown on ML side. If you were to have comparison you can see how Shan yuan interact with yiyu/yixiu or xuan yuan with yilian.
SPOILER Also, in the novel, and in some videos of how director describes FL. FL even with truth coming out that they notsibiling still treated him as her brother and accepted his feeling as he was always the one to treated her the best and he had a place in her heart. In the novel FL accepted his feeelins after marriage, because they got marriage due to circumstance and she was very young so he gave her time. During that time he became more forward with his advances, which scriptwriters might or might not do.
The plot is developping very slowly. Would it be possible for this drama to get a second season the way they did…
I highly doubt we getting a second seasons, from what we see from the stills and trailers, they do get married and that's usually end game unless there's additional plot to happen?
Guys is it me or y'all also feel like, leads relationship should start to get into ambiguous era/phase now otherwise…
I think the ambiguous era/phase started long ago lol. From the moment, ML found out he's not her sister, I feel like you can see him slowly falling in love with her and willing to risk his life for her multiple times or help her out. I don't know how far you got, but if your expecting outright kisses, and very touchy scenes that's pretty impossible consider what time period they are in, much less they are in ancient time where separations between genders are very strict. Like even showing your skin for a bit and a guy sees it, means you have to married to him. The story seems to follows a scholar family which is even more strict with traditions, because even a small little scandal can cause someone to lose their official positions or reputation. If they were caught kissing or even like doing much more ambiguous stuff, it would implicate the whole family, remember how Yiyu was sending notes to Chen Lang? If that was discovered, all women in the Luo family wouldn't be able to get married now because they would have bad reputation and no proper family would have their son or daughter marry a family with a bad name. The drama didn't really address the seriousness of it as much.
Also, ML likes her, I think is pretty obvious by now, if he really just saw her as a sister, the moment he found out they weren't related he would have kept his distance aka no physical contact at all. From my perspectives, he's fully taking advantage of the fact that people think they are brothers and sisters to have physical contact (hugs and carrying her) XD. Cause if anyone thats not a brother/relative did those things, they would need to get married to them.
I suggested giving legend of minglan a try, its even more slow burn there XD, but the family inner drama is very interesting and explains most of the ins and outs of a scholar family. In fact, I think this drama is already on the less stricter side, and this drama is really catered for audiences in china who already knows most of these rules or people have watched a good amount of ancient historical dramas based on more political/traditions.
He was married to her in their past life so he still considers her very much his wife since they never broke up.
That only happens in the novel. In the drama, when FL was living in the family side house, Lu Jia Xue lived right next to her house. But because of some injury he couldn’t see. He fell in love with her and then suddenly she disappeared and so he wants to find out what happened.
The drama show yining stand point, so we know what happened but Lu Jia Xue doesn’t know and he was madly in love with her. He wanted to marry her.
For novel readers, at what point in the story will FL real identity be revealed? I want her to know she and 3rd…
Also to note is that the drama romance is actually moving a lot faster than the novel lol. Since in the novel FL is very young like sooo young. She was 7-8 when ML realized she wasn’t his sister. Then her real father came when she was 12, that how their broke off the sister/brother relation. Before that it was hand holding or carrying a child (FL).
After she find her real father, she now lives in a different residence and since ML is no longer her brother. He has no excuse to be close to her, because he’s not family. So it might actually be even more slowburn after she finds out. They get married at 14 and between 12-14 they had almost no contact. Unless scriptwriter decides to change something, and make it more fast pace. I mean they did a good job with pacing it right now, slow burn but gets you hooked, with little romances here and there.
Originally was only gonna translate a snippet, but went for the whole segment. Please excuse the elementary school level translation here. The translation should be aligned with the subs.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8N2Ckah/
Starting from sword scene:
ML: Hold up
ML: I’m back
ML Dad: Today is your second brothers wedding day
ML: If I don’t agree who dares to marry her
ML Brother: Yan Jing Lan, what does it matter to you who I marry
ML: Ying Ying (FL nickname), Let’s Leave
ML Brother: 3rd Brother, where do you think your going?
~ML Brother gets push to the ground~
ML Step Mother: Even if you don’t care about Yan Family’s reputation, what about Ji Niang Zi (FL) reputation?
FL: Yan Jung Lan, I was willing to marry him
ML: fine, since you already made the decision to marry into a Tiger den. Then if we change the groom, is that fine?
FL: What do you mean
ML: Marry me
ML: Are you willing or not?
ML dad: This woman is to be married as your 2nd brother concubine.
ML: The ceremony has not been completed
ML: So she still isn’t my 2nd brothers
ML: You threaten her with her family
ML: The people forcing her to marry
ML: ARE YOU GUYS!!!!
ML: You treat her as chip (tool)
ML: I regard her as a treasure
ML: I, Yan Jing Lan
ML: Must marry her
Someone: this?
ML: Marry Me
ML: Are you willing?
FL: I’m willing
It’s not in the TikTok but the next scene:
ML: Good, I’ll marry you
I wasted time reading the novel and it’s totally different so idk what to expect. Like besides some character names, almost everything plot wise is very different.
Duke was thankful to ML because due empress trying to marry the 3rd prince to her, the duke had to find any guy to marry her to prevent her from entering the palace and ML stepped up. Later on as the duke found out more about him, he realized how smart/strategic this guy is and was more wary of him and worried for FL as she was to marrying him. FL was “attempted” to portray as smart, but more than half time she was a person who doesn’t know what’s going on or how to resolve. The duke was worried about FL losing out against him because of how amazing he is, because he really could have gone better. FL was under age (by ancient Chinese standards) so he was also worried about whether ML would break his promise of not doing it until she became of age (15) or much older. Which ML did and she was pregnant at 14, and that caused complications because she was too young to be giving birth. The duke didn’t like him because of that and I didn’t like that aspect as well.
To be far, I like novel and drama ML, the real big difference between the 2. Was novel ML was more confident and a very rational, as political he was the most ideal person he was cunning, patient, and strategic. Really his only flaw was FL, her troubles seemed to always set back his political career. There was a time where she was away from him, he almost gone insane, but it shows how high up politically he could have gone and fast without FL troubles. The one scene I wished they added was where he asked FL how far in the ranking does she want him to go. Which FL replied ofc the Top scholar, ML say ok I’ll become the top scholar. Then when it became time to release the result, instead of looking at the board, he would be looking at her. Cause he’s confident he’ll be on top and his reasoning for going for the top was her so watching her happy would have made him happy. The one thing I liked they removed in drama ML was his obsession with FL, if yall think SML obsession was bad, novel ML was on the same level as him.
SPOILER FOR THE NOVEL:
Novel MingZhu did a lot worst, she almost got FL raped. She was spoiled and willing to do a lot of stuff just to ruin FL. In the end they do resolve their differences, and MingZhu will help FL. But they are not on friend terms or as close as shown in the drama. Ming Zhu understood it way too late that FL never had any intention of kicking her out. So by the time she realized she was reduced to really being treated like an outsider (no room, no servants, only purpose is to tend to grandma, and no say/power to run anything). Not even grandma liked her as much anymore. The only reason she was kept around, was cause her biological families situation was way too messy.
In the story, her sister was so powerful FL grew up without worry, and she married someone from an influential family. Due to her sister no one in the family dared to treat her bad and sister always checked up on her too. Like in the drama, grandma is influential, but not all powerful to have stuff go her way, so without the sister being there, FL lost her most powerful backing. Thus would give reason why she was sent away at a young age, because if sister was there. No way Concubine Qiao would have dared to frame FL. Or even if she did, sister ran the household and even when she married if anything happened to FL she always came running to save her. I did not like FL in the novel, she always needed saving and lots of the times she got in to those troubles herself. For a person who lived 2 lives dying her first life due to murder and 20 years observing the future you would think she be more alert or smarter. Nope, in the beginning it was fine but as the story progress, disliked her more and more. This may be part of her characterization cause she was really protected/spoiled by her family espically her sister. So I guess they took her sister out as a way to give reason for her independence.
I’m not sure about the quack doctor, but you are right about the first madam. The latest preview revealed that the first madam was culplrit
SPOILER
Also, in the novel, and in some videos of how director describes FL. FL even with truth coming out that they notsibiling still treated him as her brother and accepted his feeling as he was always the one to treated her the best and he had a place in her heart. In the novel FL accepted his feeelins after marriage, because they got marriage due to circumstance and she was very young so he gave her time. During that time he became more forward with his advances, which scriptwriters might or might not do.
Also, ML likes her, I think is pretty obvious by now, if he really just saw her as a sister, the moment he found out they weren't related he would have kept his distance aka no physical contact at all. From my perspectives, he's fully taking advantage of the fact that people think they are brothers and sisters to have physical contact (hugs and carrying her) XD. Cause if anyone thats not a brother/relative did those things, they would need to get married to them.
I suggested giving legend of minglan a try, its even more slow burn there XD, but the family inner drama is very interesting and explains most of the ins and outs of a scholar family. In fact, I think this drama is already on the less stricter side, and this drama is really catered for audiences in china who already knows most of these rules or people have watched a good amount of ancient historical dramas based on more political/traditions.
The drama show yining stand point, so we know what happened but Lu Jia Xue doesn’t know and he was madly in love with her. He wanted to marry her.
After she find her real father, she now lives in a different residence and since ML is no longer her brother. He has no excuse to be close to her, because he’s not family. So it might actually be even more slowburn after she finds out. They get married at 14 and between 12-14 they had almost no contact. Unless scriptwriter decides to change something, and make it more fast pace. I mean they did a good job with pacing it right now, slow burn but gets you hooked, with little romances here and there.