Silly psychiatrist: Yes, an apparent plot device. Not really embarrassing, in fact quite funny.I use an implausible…
Agreed re the actor in the wedding dress scene. What is so bizarre about this character is that he has had so little interest in the FL and is now angry at being set aside . He is there, I think, when ML is blown away by FL in wonderful wedding dress. It's a shame he can't see FL blooming under the loving gaze of ML but again the realism about her feelings trumps the revenge plot. Ex-husband/ex fiancee is also, of course, in cahoots with the nasty sister - but is trying to act like he cares for FL when he is acting on behalf of the sister. A very odd and complex character. Very well portrayed in that scene.
I'll check out your recommendation of 'The Promise Available' - thank you! I like a series I can get my teeth into.
@W two worlds Season 2 sc and @shinhwafan... I have added my comments. Then I read that you were both already there with the theories etc etc! Anyway, I loved Episode 6 for the romance and vulnerability of it.
Probably because Yu Ra comes to sabotage the marriage, wearing a wedding dress too. And it needs this dress to…
For me Yoo Ra's dress was more lacey but not necessarily more beautiful. Yi Joo's style is classic and elegant. I suspect it's because the design team liked both dresses and wanted her to wear them... perhaps they had a promo deal with the designer???
I think one of my hypothesis was true: Do Guk was in the other car ep1, because his tatoo is same date 2023-07-20.…
Shinhwafan - that was the same theory I was working with rather than death. It was only when I saw the date stamp on his wrist that I started to wonder...
Episode 6. Oh - I just saw the date stamp appearing on the ML's wrist as he and FL made love! Aha!! What does this mean? Has his fate changed? Or is he on a re-do too?
Ep6, Do Guk tells how happened the accident with his brother. I understood almost nothing. And there is no flashback…
Yes, I am puzzled about why we don't get a full reveal. I don't know if we are supposed to read between the lines or if there is a slightly fuller explanation to come? A shame if it is simply due to limit on budget. BUT our ML could have said more couldn't he?
Episode 6 I thought this was a great episode. It really packed a punch!
By the time we got to the honeymooning on her own I thought we might be stuck in a relationship stalemate for a lot longer than we were.
I loved the way the ML walked that fine line between assuming he could have a full relationship with the FL and giving up altogether and allowing the relationship to be a platonic one.
When he opened up to the FL - on the beach – about his experience with nasty brother – that should have signalled to me that the ML at least was crossing the line and asking her to cross that same line to greater emotional intimacy. He spoke about that line between them in Episode 5.
I thought the scene where they really opened up and she told him she couldn’t return his feelings – but she still reached out to him because she is fond despite herself - very well done! It was passionate and genuinely vulnerable.
The surprise in the final scene was the younger sister at her grotesque best… but somehow now we know that our central couple will cope with all that is thrown at them.
Silly psychiatrist – being unprofessional and giving away game to FL about ML’s mental health. I found that irritating as a plot device even in the context of this type of story… No psych worth their salt would barge into a married person’s apartment. ,,,Her role is similar to that of the oft used big mouth friend who spills the beans at a critical point.
The tests of the FL’s character continue and Grandma has now accepted her. These are again slightly fairy tale-like as she passes through the forest of adversity and gets asked questions on the way.
The BIG reveal about FL’s Dad.
FL is in hospital and ML seems to have a pre-sentiment about the car crash… was he the driver who collided with her?? Is he doing a re-do too? Or will he die if they go back to the present?
This time ML cares for FL - they are rescuing one another. They are the perfect match and she just needs to see this.
I am struck by the fact that the show goes with the psychological realities of that massive shock. It has repercussions for the dress fitting, the wedding… all the joy of the contract marriage has now evaporated. The show's strength is psychological realism even at the heart of an OTT drama. So you enjoy the fun and come to care for real people in the midst of this colourful world.
Dolphin-face ex fiancée, a despicable, gawping character , shows up to the dress fitting – who does that??
Comedy as Evil Step-Fright Mother is shown the undignified scene with Grandfather clinging to TaeJa Chairwoman’s legs!!
The couple both look drained and depressed looking as FL is having her make-up done.
W, I agree re the dress. Although this one is beautiful, I thought the first one with that lovely pleated fan effect was stunning!
Will the bride even make it to the ceremony? We see the quality of ML has he supports her through this and rolls with the punches.
I wanted them to enjoy the ceremony as Part One of her victory over the baddies. Instead– far more realistically – she struggles through – overwhelmed by the pain of what she is learning about her past and what has been done to her.
We also realise that the contract marriage is at risk of combusting from the start - will the ML be strong enough to handle this, will the FL be able to overcome her fears to stay in the journey?
Episodes 5 and 6 - Hi W and Shinhwafan, I have seen Episodes 5 and 6 and won't write in detail until you have both had the opportunity to watch them. I thought they were very strong episodes. These are not just silly shows... the plot is OTT but our core characters are reacting as genuine human beings within the plot. NO hurry. I am going to re-watch anyway.
A scene is striking in episode 1, and right out from a fairy tale.When adoptive mother bends over the FL in the…
Yes! That makes me feel that the writer is having fun with the fairy tale archetypes... The black dress Step-Mum in right at the start as she strikes fear into the hearts of her staff. She is OTT bad!
Hi Kate, your message is a ray of sun here.Yeah, you had feel what I could resume here. But luckily, the drama…
Hi W! Great take on character and human rationality and irrationality - agreed! Looking forward to your further thoughts and reactions. Make it all the more fun to watch ... I am especially interested because you know the writer and their style and can bring that critical perspective. Thank you!
ps Take a look at Episode 1, at around 22 minutes in... you will see that the gritty determination and anger is already there in the FL at around 23' 25''. This is when she defends her place in the - awful - family having been told by Cruella de Ville to go and be a ghost bride in her husband's family... (!).
Hi there! Kate here. So enjoyed your thoughts on this and glad you are enjoying the story telling despite the caveats you discussed about the scene setting of the story.
I also found the start bitty and difficult to follow so I am re-watching Episode 1 today and making sense of things retrospectively!
I think I watched it - to start off with - with such low expectations that it didn't matter. Now I am more invested, I want the details! Lol.
I also agree about the lack of credibility in the sudden change of the FL's disposition. I am making sense of that by understanding her positivity in Episode 1 as an expression of deep denial which hides rage! And she does oscillate between her new persona and her old victimised persona... so that keeps things more real.
Her sudden shift moves the story forward at the same time it adds an energetic tension. I was on tenterhooks the whole time even about whether she would drop her new persona and collapse into the old persona. This was when she was proposing to the ML. It turns out that I needn't have worried for a number of story critical reasons. She does - as said above - move between her sweeter side and her angry determined side.
I'll check out your recommendation of 'The Promise Available' - thank you! I like a series I can get my teeth into.
I thought this was a great episode. It really packed a punch!
By the time we got to the honeymooning on her own I thought we might be stuck in a relationship stalemate for a lot longer than we were.
I loved the way the ML walked that fine line between assuming he could have a full relationship with the FL and giving up altogether and allowing the relationship to be a platonic one.
When he opened up to the FL - on the beach – about his experience with nasty brother – that should have signalled to me that the ML at least was crossing the line and asking her to cross that same line to greater emotional intimacy. He spoke about that line between them in Episode 5.
I thought the scene where they really opened up and she told him she couldn’t return his feelings – but she still reached out to him because she is fond despite herself - very well done! It was passionate and genuinely vulnerable.
The surprise in the final scene was the younger sister at her grotesque best… but somehow now we know that our central couple will cope with all that is thrown at them.
Silly psychiatrist – being unprofessional and giving away game to FL about ML’s mental health. I found that irritating as a plot device even in the context of this type of story… No psych worth their salt would barge into a married person’s apartment. ,,,Her role is similar to that of the oft used big mouth friend who spills the beans at a critical point.
The tests of the FL’s character continue and Grandma has now accepted her. These are again slightly fairy tale-like as she passes through the forest of adversity and gets asked questions on the way.
The BIG reveal about FL’s Dad.
FL is in hospital and ML seems to have a pre-sentiment about the car crash… was he the driver who collided with her?? Is he doing a re-do too? Or will he die if they go back to the present?
This time ML cares for FL - they are rescuing one another. They are the perfect match and she just needs to see this.
I am struck by the fact that the show goes with the psychological realities of that massive shock. It has repercussions for the dress fitting, the wedding… all the joy of the contract marriage has now evaporated. The show's strength is psychological realism even at the heart of an OTT drama. So you enjoy the fun and come to care for real people in the midst of this colourful world.
Dolphin-face ex fiancée, a despicable, gawping character , shows up to the dress fitting – who does that??
Comedy as Evil Step-Fright Mother is shown the undignified scene with Grandfather clinging to TaeJa Chairwoman’s legs!!
The couple both look drained and depressed looking as FL is having her make-up done.
W, I agree re the dress. Although this one is beautiful, I thought the first one with that lovely pleated fan effect was stunning!
Will the bride even make it to the ceremony? We see the quality of ML has he supports her through this and rolls with the punches.
I wanted them to enjoy the ceremony as Part One of her victory over the baddies. Instead– far more realistically – she struggles through – overwhelmed by the pain of what she is learning about her past and what has been done to her.
We also realise that the contract marriage is at risk of combusting from the start - will the ML be strong enough to handle this, will the FL be able to overcome her fears to stay in the journey?
I also found the start bitty and difficult to follow so I am re-watching Episode 1 today and making sense of things retrospectively!
I think I watched it - to start off with - with such low expectations that it didn't matter. Now I am more invested, I want the details! Lol.
I also agree about the lack of credibility in the sudden change of the FL's disposition. I am making sense of that by understanding her positivity in Episode 1 as an expression of deep denial which hides rage! And she does oscillate between her new persona and her old victimised persona... so that keeps things more real.
Her sudden shift moves the story forward at the same time it adds an energetic tension. I was on tenterhooks the whole time even about whether she would drop her new persona and collapse into the old persona. This was when she was proposing to the ML. It turns out that I needn't have worried for a number of story critical reasons. She does - as said above - move between her sweeter side and her angry determined side.
Brill to read this! Thanks.