OK I finally finished episode 22 here. I was thinking that she just drugged the wine but no, it was from way before. He even asks when she tries to stop him from drinking it as if the wine is drugged and she says yes and admits it. He just smiles and drinks it anyway, so it’s not like she wasn’t telling him the truth in that moment. Also, she did try to confess and is not her fault that he didn’t take her seriously, so at least in this sentence since it’s not like she never tried to be truthful.
I started watching this because of HMH and LYX. Compared to novel the drama is really good although it little…
I’m not reading the novel but I’ve heard others who have comment that she was poisoned, but she never actually entered into the tournament to battle him. Her poisoning and the novel just isn’t the central theme that it is in the drama from what I understand. So from spoilers, I’ve read of the novel is JZB is actually a jerk and is a complete womanizer, he is also married to somebody else and has been a political match for a year, but doesn’t tell her until much later apparently it’s never constipated.
I think he meant that you’re really useless and that even though he was angry at her that he can’t stop caring…
I don’t think I can compare dramas because the characters are just so different. Even though Sima Jaio was basically imprisoned for 500 years and has been tortured since he was a child. He’s like the epitome of a green flag lol. I do like that. There are a lot more intimate moments between the leads. I think because the female lead comes from our time and doesn’t have an abuse background she’s just more open and communicative so she and Sima J just have a lot more healthy of a relationship they don’t really have misunderstandings and the one time he does something against her will that causes her to be very upset. They talk about it, and she tells him upset her, and he promises to never do it again.
Whereas because the leads in this drama started off under deception and using each other plus they both come from extremely abusive backgrounds which have shaped who they are and how they interact with the world. It’s a lot different than when destiny brings a demon.
I think he meant that you’re really useless and that even though he was angry at her that he can’t stop caring…
Well, I just finished fated hearts, I’m currently watching a Thai boys love drama called Khemjira also episode 11 air today and there’s only one episode left. Blood River is supposedly air on the 20th so hopefully I can start watching that because I’m gonna go insane if I have to wait for new episodes every day for love in the clouds lol
it is ji bozai bcus before that we see mingyi leaving a note for situ ling suggesting she left him and zhang tai.…
I personally am maybe this is wishful thinking thinking he’s gonna hang around because he’s concerned because she’s so weak and he doesn’t know why 27 only has a wisp of divine consciousness left so he was like what happened. So I think he’s gonna hang around.
do we think he will finally find out her identity in ep 24 or another couple episodes? the preview didnt give…
I think he meant that you’re really useless and that even though he was angry at her that he can’t stop caring that he feels he has to follow her and make sure she’s OK lol
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Jibozai and Mingyi are byproducts of the different extremes of trauma response in correlation to the psychological and behavioral development from their past. This is a case of trust vs mistrust. Trust being ji bozai and mistrust being mingyi.
Here's my not so little take on this. Please take it as a grain of salt. This is also hugely generalized based on opinion.
MING YI/ MING XIAN:
Let's start first with Mingyi. My baby gurllllll. From the moment she was born, she was a tool for the empire's pride and the empress' schemes. I woud not say any spoilers, but if you've read the novel, you'd know. Her lifeline was to be useful, or else sufffer, worse, rot to die. Now this usually in context with people who have deepseated loyalty towards a predator, Wherein they are blindsided by their faith to the point where they couldn't comprehend whether its good or bad for them.
Mingyi, being told to repress all her being and be excellent at everything, has really impacted her views on life, this, ultimately trickled down to her character as person. In this case, she isn't so sure of herself, let alone have the backbone to confront her inner demons. It doesn't also help when she wants acknowledgement from her empress mother. She (empress) was her (MY) lifeline and her compass. Her words are like the heavens mandate to her. Lets also not forget how many schemes had she survived outside of her emperial family.
Now onto her mistrust on Ji Bo Zai, I would say, she ultimately feels so trusted, and loved, and cared for. He has given her trust, and she doesn't know how to reciprocate it. Now its easy to say: 'then just tell him the truth!!!!' but its not always easy.
She is incapable of trusting people aside from the empress (and her familiar 27), and even then, she also has a bit of mistrust towards her mother (the empress)and almsoet everybody. She is a walking contradiction and because of that, this is where the lying starts. She doesn't know where or whom to confide her secrets. On the other hand, she fully submits to the empress, but she can't really open up to the empress or else she loses her usefulness. MY also could not open up with JBZ as she doesn't know how, and even then, she also couldn't trust on anyone even when they've given them so many evidences of love and trust.
Ultimately, I think MY would learn how to let loose if she realizes that her entire being is not about being useful. It's frustrating to wait, however, it takes a lot of effort to breakthrough from the trauma. As cliché as it may sound, she is a glass, unfixable as she is, but she needs to know that she still shines even when broken. My baby gurl needs to be on hermit mode and therapy. She deserve peace and self reconciliation
Ji Bo Zai
Now lets get to my man, my baby, my hubby, Ji Bo Zai. He suffered so much from the moment he was born, and was betrayed a hundred or a thousand times already. Having to suffer physical, mental and emotional abuse, on top of that, he was poisoned by the Heavenly Grief, he, at that time has learned to succumb to dying young.
Ji Bo Zai, also, from the day he was born, was established as a tool. But the thing about him is that he has grown to have hope. He hopes to escape from the wretched life he has and avenge his plight as well as others that suffered in that kind of situation. He understands that this is not what it should be and that he should not be in that kind situation.
That is why he learned to understand that betrayal and trust are up for him to decide. That is the power he holds. He knows what he wants and he can decide what is wrong and what is right. He had strong mental capacity and capabilities, which ultimately shaped his character. He learned who trust and who to distrust.
He then found a leeway for escape and ultimately met his life savior, his master Bo Yu Lan. Now, you might think this is the same as ming yi, right, JBZ has found someone, somewhat of a mother figure to him. Another thing is that, why did JBZ learned how to trust his master and MY couldn't even trust JBZ.
This is because JBZ had learned to pave his own way. He is capable of trust because he understand that human nature are molded from their situation. Not to mention, he has also experienced genuine help. The time when his escape was arm reach, he met his master, which tried her very best to heal him. This could be a mend or bend situation, and I think if his master is twisted, he could also become one. But who cares, right? He has someone he could rely on, and the one who gave him geniune kindness.
That is why Ji Bo Zai is loyal, kind, and capable of trust, because he knows himself and he had the capability to scrutinize peoples character. That is why he learned how to trust Mingyi because despite her contradictory words, her actions seemed to be genuine and true.
Now lets compare and contrast, shall we?
With all of these traits, who do you think is more vulnerable?
Gosh, they suffered so much! I don't want to invalidate them. However their trauma response is not the same. To put it in a perspective: Ming yi is like a puppet, where as ji bozai is a pet. You wanna know why?
Puppet, by definition, is a movable model of a person or animal and is typically moved either by strings controlled from above or by a hand inside it. I'll put emphasis on the strings. She is attached to a person, which controls her everybeing. By far the most telling example is like living with a tiger mom and an unreliable environment. Every word your mom said should be right, or else suffer from the consequence of angering her. Your moves are limited and you only have one goal: to make her proud so that she will stand high in a PTA meeting, or every gathering she is invited to. Not to mention, that if you open up to someone, one way pr another you're always in the wrong, and your reputation will be muddied. So you, as a child, your consciousness lies on the fact that you shouldn't and couldn't control your life. You life for your mom, you are your moms alter ego. You as well should not let everyone know you, or else you'll be used. This is what Mingyi is. Why should you trust others when you can't even see a good thing about you? (yes, trauma dumping at its finesttttt).
Ji Bo Zai is a pet. He is your puppy, your kitty, your baby. Even if he is not yours, he is a live, breathing animal. He bites when he doesn't like what your doing to him, can be aggressive or extremely loyal. He can whine and fus about not getting much attention, or he can rip your arm up because you're not good to him. He also knows how to let you submit to his decision and you can never know when he's manipulative or not. In simple terms, he has his own conciousness. Pets are known to be extremely loyal, however its up to how the behaviour and effort of their fur parents (I refuse to use the term owners) or other peoples kindness. Plus they can sense your friendly, too!
Overall, I am not really eloquent with words but I hope this helps you understand more about them. I am very much overstimulated by LITC and I want this drama to end as its not good for my mental health. Bad thing is its just a drama I'll be watching for just a month, however I'm writing shit at 1 am up until 5 am, and this shit aint good because I've put my studying on hold for this. Midterms is on monday, and I've still got lots of materials to study. Either way, I need a break.
Whereas because the leads in this drama started off under deception and using each other plus they both come from extremely abusive backgrounds which have shaped who they are and how they interact with the world. It’s a lot different than when destiny brings a demon.
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Jibozai and Mingyi are byproducts of the different extremes of trauma response in correlation to the psychological and behavioral development from their past. This is a case of trust vs mistrust. Trust being ji bozai and mistrust being mingyi.
Here's my not so little take on this. Please take it as a grain of salt. This is also hugely generalized based on opinion.
MING YI/ MING XIAN:
Let's start first with Mingyi. My baby gurllllll. From the moment she was born, she was a tool for the empire's pride and the empress' schemes. I woud not say any spoilers, but if you've read the novel, you'd know. Her lifeline was to be useful, or else sufffer, worse, rot to die. Now this usually in context with people who have deepseated loyalty towards a predator, Wherein they are blindsided by their faith to the point where they couldn't comprehend whether its good or bad for them.
Mingyi, being told to repress all her being and be excellent at everything, has really impacted her views on life, this, ultimately trickled down to her character as person. In this case, she isn't so sure of herself, let alone have the backbone to confront her inner demons. It doesn't also help when she wants acknowledgement from her empress mother. She (empress) was her (MY) lifeline and her compass. Her words are like the heavens mandate to her. Lets also not forget how many schemes had she survived outside of her emperial family.
Now onto her mistrust on Ji Bo Zai, I would say, she ultimately feels so trusted, and loved, and cared for. He has given her trust, and she doesn't know how to reciprocate it. Now its easy to say: 'then just tell him the truth!!!!' but its not always easy.
She is incapable of trusting people aside from the empress (and her familiar 27), and even then, she also has a bit of mistrust towards her mother (the empress)and almsoet everybody. She is a walking contradiction and because of that, this is where the lying starts. She doesn't know where or whom to confide her secrets. On the other hand, she fully submits to the empress, but she can't really open up to the empress or else she loses her usefulness. MY also could not open up with JBZ as she doesn't know how, and even then, she also couldn't trust on anyone even when they've given them so many evidences of love and trust.
Ultimately, I think MY would learn how to let loose if she realizes that her entire being is not about being useful. It's frustrating to wait, however, it takes a lot of effort to breakthrough from the trauma. As cliché as it may sound, she is a glass, unfixable as she is, but she needs to know that she still shines even when broken. My baby gurl needs to be on hermit mode and therapy. She deserve peace and self reconciliation
Ji Bo Zai
Now lets get to my man, my baby, my hubby, Ji Bo Zai. He suffered so much from the moment he was born, and was betrayed a hundred or a thousand times already. Having to suffer physical, mental and emotional abuse, on top of that, he was poisoned by the Heavenly Grief, he, at that time has learned to succumb to dying young.
Ji Bo Zai, also, from the day he was born, was established as a tool. But the thing about him is that he has grown to have hope. He hopes to escape from the wretched life he has and avenge his plight as well as others that suffered in that kind of situation. He understands that this is not what it should be and that he should not be in that kind situation.
That is why he learned to understand that betrayal and trust are up for him to decide. That is the power he holds. He knows what he wants and he can decide what is wrong and what is right. He had strong mental capacity and capabilities, which ultimately shaped his character. He learned who trust and who to distrust.
He then found a leeway for escape and ultimately met his life savior, his master Bo Yu Lan. Now, you might think this is the same as ming yi, right, JBZ has found someone, somewhat of a mother figure to him. Another thing is that, why did JBZ learned how to trust his master and MY couldn't even trust JBZ.
This is because JBZ had learned to pave his own way. He is capable of trust because he understand that human nature are molded from their situation. Not to mention, he has also experienced genuine help. The time when his escape was arm reach, he met his master, which tried her very best to heal him. This could be a mend or bend situation, and I think if his master is twisted, he could also become one. But who cares, right? He has someone he could rely on, and the one who gave him geniune kindness.
That is why Ji Bo Zai is loyal, kind, and capable of trust, because he knows himself and he had the capability to scrutinize peoples character. That is why he learned how to trust Mingyi because despite her contradictory words, her actions seemed to be genuine and true.
Now lets compare and contrast, shall we?
With all of these traits, who do you think is more vulnerable?
Gosh, they suffered so much! I don't want to invalidate them. However their trauma response is not the same. To put it in a perspective: Ming yi is like a puppet, where as ji bozai is a pet. You wanna know why?
Puppet, by definition, is a movable model of a person or animal and is typically moved either by strings controlled from above or by a hand inside it. I'll put emphasis on the strings. She is attached to a person, which controls her everybeing. By far the most telling example is like living with a tiger mom and an unreliable environment. Every word your mom said should be right, or else suffer from the consequence of angering her. Your moves are limited and you only have one goal: to make her proud so that she will stand high in a PTA meeting, or every gathering she is invited to. Not to mention, that if you open up to someone, one way pr another you're always in the wrong, and your reputation will be muddied. So you, as a child, your consciousness lies on the fact that you shouldn't and couldn't control your life. You life for your mom, you are your moms alter ego. You as well should not let everyone know you, or else you'll be used. This is what Mingyi is. Why should you trust others when you can't even see a good thing about you? (yes, trauma dumping at its finesttttt).
Ji Bo Zai is a pet. He is your puppy, your kitty, your baby. Even if he is not yours, he is a live, breathing animal. He bites when he doesn't like what your doing to him, can be aggressive or extremely loyal. He can whine and fus about not getting much attention, or he can rip your arm up because you're not good to him. He also knows how to let you submit to his decision and you can never know when he's manipulative or not. In simple terms, he has his own conciousness. Pets are known to be extremely loyal, however its up to how the behaviour and effort of their fur parents (I refuse to use the term owners) or other peoples kindness. Plus they can sense your friendly, too!
Overall, I am not really eloquent with words but I hope this helps you understand more about them. I am very much overstimulated by LITC and I want this drama to end as its not good for my mental health. Bad thing is its just a drama I'll be watching for just a month, however I'm writing shit at 1 am up until 5 am, and this shit aint good because I've put my studying on hold for this. Midterms is on monday, and I've still got lots of materials to study. Either way, I need a break.