They've known each other for a long time, right? Even though they didn't star opposite to each other until Crash Landing I can think of at least one drama where one or the other made an appearance. I think they make a good fit if only for that reason... they've known each other for years (years and years) and they're old enough they should know what they want.
This isn't spur of the moment like that Descendant's of the Sun couple or a romance brought on by public pressure. There is a reason the media speculated for years these two were dating (when they denied it or were not dating each other).
okay All,The chinese version of Mr. Queen is so lame. Just saw a clip on YouTube. Costumes and set were quite…
Go Princess Go took risks and given what we see in Episode 6, the Korean producers are going for a total dodge of sexuality. This is one area where TV and webtoon production is lightyears ahead at least in China, Japan, Thailand relative to Korea.
All the Korean show has over Go Princess Go is a big budget for better sets. So far it hasn't taken any risks, Go Princess Go had taken several risks in the first 5 episodes. It's not as funny. It's not as deep either. It's totally dodging the source material to make it palatable for a Korean audience... which is exactly what Go Princess Go did not do (and as a result suffered Chinese government censorship).
I'll still watch it through to the end but Go Princess Go was much better. The only reason to prefer this show other than higher quality sets is because it's "safe" like most Korean shows on TV. And personally the way they're making this "safe" borders on the absurd and not in a good way. This show looks like it might be an opportunity lost but I guess there is a slim chance the writers and director might defy my expectations.
So for anyone who has been watching - how similar is it to Go Princess Go? I recall Go Princess Go breaking the 4th wall alot with the Princess. And eventually the whole "man trapped in a woman's body" thing faded away but it was still had funny moments for other reasons.
lol. Bad french is at least a rarity in Korean & Chinese dramas. Bad English on the other hand appears in almost…
There's definitely bad English in Asian dramas but
1) I have never heard it quite this bad or if it's this bad, it's 1 or 2 words and that's it. This was an entire phone conversation. And a followup after that. 2) It's a Chinese drama with dubbing. I'll give someone a pass if they're actually memorizing and trying to vocalize lines in a language they don't understand... and carry through a fairly long scene switching to French and back to Mandarin but this is dubbed. I would expect things to be better, not worse.
I couldn't understand the majority of the French. I think I made out phrases like "Je t'aime" at the end of the phonecall but I can't even be sure of that. I've spoken French most of my life. I'm 30 and I've spoken it for over 25 years.
I'm not going to stop watching but lets be real here - it's really, really bad. I can't think of a worse attempt at speaking another language.
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I haven't watched much but that's sort of my opinion as well with the only exception being the comedy genre. Normally I'm newer = better person but my one exception would be Japanese film & TV. Modern Japanese entertainment is something I just can't connect to more often than not. It's absurd, it doesn't draw me in. I have liked some movies & shows but they are the minority and more often than not they are comedies.
One thing I've noticed that's funny with Asian dramas involving business is they always want to highlight the CEO walking around with a personal assistant and the staff all waiting on them at the retail store they're visiting or whatever. It's a status type of thing.
But in the reality (at least in the Western world) the CEO would never be dealing with this stuff. They would delegate to people lower down on the business chain. Every retail business I've worked in - we had people dedicated to surprise store visits to make sure things are up to standard. We paid these people well and they were essentially bulldogs.
If something wasn't up to standard or satisfaction they would make sure to change that. They had free reign to talk to managers and tell them to make changes like buying new shelving, getting the walls re-painted, if the store sold food - buy new refrigerators, etc...
I guess to give credit to the show - they do recognize she is just the CEO and not all powerful and needs the support of a board of directors. We were always having to justify things, present things to the board of directors on behalf of executives or with executives including the CEO and get their approval before we could do anything too big in scope. The CEO is not some all powerful position in most big businesses. It's definitely a high position but even they have to answer to someone.
Down thread, @funnypeopleswim, @Joanna Fortuna-Queiroz and I noted the trend of virginal female leads growing…
It gives an explanation for her behavior and lack of conformity for the standard of women at the time. And the plucky hero who fights against the odds and wins is a super common protagonist... with large female audiences, why not take that traditionally male character and make him a her and appeal to women? The whole virgin thing is because the lead has to be pure, especially if she's a woman because they get judged harshly for sex, especially in non-Western countries.
I really want to see the Cruel City duo again in another drama that's a little less dark.
There's 2 more duos I'd like to see again (and one woman I'd like to see in a genre):
Ivy Shao & Marcus Chang in something a little more plot driven than Back to 1989 (or your typical Taiwanese drama for that matter). But I believe they were dating and broke up so probably not happening.
Jang Hyuk and Honey Lee in anything - they weren't the main couple in Shine or Go Crazy but I loved the tension between them in the show.
And then I'd like to see Sandra Ma with any guy in a historical CDrama again where she's playing a warrior (like in Oh My General) or independent woman.
I really don't like the Yu Ra story. She's going to manipulate people, people are going to try to blackmail her, she finds some ridiculous 'out' that should backfire (or makes no sense) but it never does backfire or fail because the writers need her for whatever plot they have concocted. And repeat this. Over and over and over and over.
I was hoping they would kill off her character or have her go away and be offscreen for a bunch of episodes and she only come back when the lead (Tae Pung) needs her to come back to make a discovery or get justice or whatever. But it doesn't seem like this will be the case. Really unfortunate. As a result I've done a lot of skipping.
It was messy and not that great but I loved the main couple from the bickering start to the very end. Lee Min Jung has an expressive face so I could watch her in anything.
Plus it has one of the best Korean rock songs I have heard: 멜로 브리즈 - 안녕 내사랑
It sucks. I got to episode 14 and I realized that it was not convincing me. The poor job by the writers and directors wasn't going to get any better and so I quit.
As things stand for me by episode 14:
The storyline for the youngest son makes no sense. The storyline for the middle son makes a tiny bit of sense. The storyline for the oldest brother actually makes some sense.
The oldest brother storyline has a clear starting point - immediately after divorce. The youngest brother has some weird obsession with a drunk girl he meets a couple of times. What? Really? The middle brother just comes across as exasperated and so does his wife but am I really supposed to care? How did they find themselves in this situation? The starting point for the middle brother was a poor choice.
The writers struggled big time. They needed clear starting points for the characters like with the oldest brother (immediately after divorce). But instead the show kind of stumbles in mid-story for all the other characters and fails to convince or get people to connect easily with them and their struggles.
The side characters were just generally awful. Eo Yeong was awful.
14 episodes is 20% of this show. I gave it a fair shake and it's bad.
I made it to episode 85 but the constant cycle of the same characters hiding secret after secret from each other got tiring. The 'bad guys' (they're not really that bad) doing the same things over and over and nobody catching on her acting differently was also disappointing.
I really liked Dan Ah. She was broken to start the show and she slowly opened up. There were definitely some things I didn't like (the slapping, watch the whole show, it wasn't just one character) but overall I liked the show. The other main characters offered decent contrasts to each other and were different personality wise.
I just can't get into it when so many characters switch out. I had the same problem with that British show with teenagers who developed superpowers. They just swapped out characters and it didn't feel the same.
Oh the dude is the fox. Well, that will be a change of pace. Could be interesting. I swear every "Gumiho" show I've seen involves a woman as the fox. The only maybe exception I can think of is Gu Family Book but I forget if he was a fox or was it more of a 'mythical creature' that was not as well defined.
I'm glad the drama is finally starting for me at least. I hope they don't reference him becoming 'better than normal' but the episode descriptions seem like they will. First time I've seen "savant" in a long time. IDK I'm still not sure how this gets to 100 episodes but at least he's not mentally disabled.
Really? You think it dragged? I'm crying here because I think its too short and it's going to take me a really…
The last two episodes were a great resolution but that middle/back half it felt like it was going in circles. It wasn't terrible by any means but I wasn't as hooked as I was for the first half or last 2 episodes.
This isn't spur of the moment like that Descendant's of the Sun couple or a romance brought on by public pressure. There is a reason the media speculated for years these two were dating (when they denied it or were not dating each other).
All the Korean show has over Go Princess Go is a big budget for better sets. So far it hasn't taken any risks, Go Princess Go had taken several risks in the first 5 episodes. It's not as funny. It's not as deep either. It's totally dodging the source material to make it palatable for a Korean audience... which is exactly what Go Princess Go did not do (and as a result suffered Chinese government censorship).
I'll still watch it through to the end but Go Princess Go was much better. The only reason to prefer this show other than higher quality sets is because it's "safe" like most Korean shows on TV. And personally the way they're making this "safe" borders on the absurd and not in a good way. This show looks like it might be an opportunity lost but I guess there is a slim chance the writers and director might defy my expectations.
1) I have never heard it quite this bad or if it's this bad, it's 1 or 2 words and that's it. This was an entire phone conversation. And a followup after that.
2) It's a Chinese drama with dubbing. I'll give someone a pass if they're actually memorizing and trying to vocalize lines in a language they don't understand... and carry through a fairly long scene switching to French and back to Mandarin but this is dubbed. I would expect things to be better, not worse.
I couldn't understand the majority of the French. I think I made out phrases like "Je t'aime" at the end of the phonecall but I can't even be sure of that. I've spoken French most of my life. I'm 30 and I've spoken it for over 25 years.
I'm not going to stop watching but lets be real here - it's really, really bad. I can't think of a worse attempt at speaking another language.
But in the reality (at least in the Western world) the CEO would never be dealing with this stuff. They would delegate to people lower down on the business chain. Every retail business I've worked in - we had people dedicated to surprise store visits to make sure things are up to standard. We paid these people well and they were essentially bulldogs.
If something wasn't up to standard or satisfaction they would make sure to change that. They had free reign to talk to managers and tell them to make changes like buying new shelving, getting the walls re-painted, if the store sold food - buy new refrigerators, etc...
I guess to give credit to the show - they do recognize she is just the CEO and not all powerful and needs the support of a board of directors. We were always having to justify things, present things to the board of directors on behalf of executives or with executives including the CEO and get their approval before we could do anything too big in scope. The CEO is not some all powerful position in most big businesses. It's definitely a high position but even they have to answer to someone.
There's 2 more duos I'd like to see again (and one woman I'd like to see in a genre):
Ivy Shao & Marcus Chang in something a little more plot driven than Back to 1989 (or your typical Taiwanese drama for that matter). But I believe they were dating and broke up so probably not happening.
Jang Hyuk and Honey Lee in anything - they weren't the main couple in Shine or Go Crazy but I loved the tension between them in the show.
And then I'd like to see Sandra Ma with any guy in a historical CDrama again where she's playing a warrior (like in Oh My General) or independent woman.
I was hoping they would kill off her character or have her go away and be offscreen for a bunch of episodes and she only come back when the lead (Tae Pung) needs her to come back to make a discovery or get justice or whatever. But it doesn't seem like this will be the case. Really unfortunate. As a result I've done a lot of skipping.
Plus it has one of the best Korean rock songs I have heard: 멜로 브리즈 - 안녕 내사랑
As things stand for me by episode 14:
The storyline for the youngest son makes no sense.
The storyline for the middle son makes a tiny bit of sense.
The storyline for the oldest brother actually makes some sense.
The oldest brother storyline has a clear starting point - immediately after divorce. The youngest brother has some weird obsession with a drunk girl he meets a couple of times. What? Really? The middle brother just comes across as exasperated and so does his wife but am I really supposed to care? How did they find themselves in this situation? The starting point for the middle brother was a poor choice.
The writers struggled big time. They needed clear starting points for the characters like with the oldest brother (immediately after divorce). But instead the show kind of stumbles in mid-story for all the other characters and fails to convince or get people to connect easily with them and their struggles.
The side characters were just generally awful. Eo Yeong was awful.
14 episodes is 20% of this show. I gave it a fair shake and it's bad.