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Surprised by how people are giving this 3/10. Was it really that hard for you to follow? lol

I guess now that I'm an adult and times have changed... I finally also realize what a mess this show is. But the first episodes are still pretty good, imho.

Rewatching this after 15 years... I had forgotten how funny it was. Weird to see today's major stars playing minor roles.

Which episode does Jae Oh die in, 11 or 12?

I don't understand why Mr. baseball even ended up in prison when his story lined up with Ah Jin's: he only hit the father/stalker to protect Ah Jin. Though I guess that male classmate also went to prison for protecting his little brother, so I guess that's just the law in SK. But he only got a short sentence so Mr. baseball should be out in just a few years too?

I think they still made it overly complicated with the beanie and stalked stuff. That's the best this manipulative genius could come up with? Could have framed his death as some sort of an accident. Or simply have pinned it on the weirdo stepbrother.

people are in some moral dilemma about the story but lmao I find it hard to symphatize with any of them, the step-brother(?) is weird af and all we know about baseball guy is that "he's a good person!". idgaf

I don't understand. Why didn't they just frame the father's death as self-defense right away? What even was the point of making the father wear the beanie, I bet the baseball dude would have thought he was the stalker even without all that. Couldn't even hide the evidence properly.

Why did baseball dude even go to prison?

Only four episodes in so far and it already feels like they're desperate to waste time with random filler crap.

I feel bad for the co-stars

"they're just one sided narratives" even the agency, which ksh has huge influence on, could not deny they did make her think she was in huge debt. she begged him and he ignored her.

Now you suddenly choose to blidnly belive her father and just ignore what she herself did. lol

Yeah, anyone can say anything. But the allegations against KSH keep on increasing. There is no way he can disprove it all, there is too much and more will keep coming out. His agency keeps denying everything, then admitting a little bit when there is too much evidence against them, then deny the rest until they will again have to admit more. Clearly, they're full of shit.

To me, it doesn't really even matter if they had a romantic/sexual relationship before late 2019. KSH got KSR to join his agency, took advantage of her, and made her think her debt was so massive her life was basically over, then ignored her when she was desperately begging him for just a little bit of help.

You don't need to believe KSR's money-hungry relatives without proper evidence, but you know she didn't post those pictures or choose 16.2. for no reason.

Her being pushed to her death by others is a scandal. Telling others to stay quiet about the wrongs she suffered is disrespectful to her.

I don't want him to end his life either. But he should stop the constant lying and apologize. He has already killed his own career.

In the pictures they have items they wore around 2015 and KSH has a mole that he got removed at the latest by July 2019. They continue to be full of shit when they say they started dating in late 2019. The letters etc are also from before late 2019.

Comment aged like fine wine.

Allegedly: A Chinese fan had gifted those glasses in the pictures to KSH in 2015. The hat is also something he wore in 2015. KSR was wearing a shirt released before September 2014. KSH also has a mole that he got rid of between October of 2017 and July of 2019 in the pics. Why would he be sending her, a child, those letters if they weren't already dating? If by some miracle it was not sexual, so what? He took advantage of her in other ways and yes, he did push her by making it impossible for her to pay that insane penalty.

The picture where their noses are touching. There is no excuse.

https://me.mashable.com/entertainment/53700/new-kissing-photos-of-kim-soo-hyun-and-kim-sae-ron-mount-evidence-of-alleged-underage-dating

Right now, I saw an old picture of them very clearly about to kiss. Not just on the cheek. I hadn't seen that one before. I no longer have even that 1% doubt. Lock him the f up!!! Throw away the key. Publish the articles. Dude is a predator.

https://kisskh.at/article/actress-kim-sae-ron-passes-away-at-24

Didn't he get sentenced for that stuff? So there is some evidence for his case or at least him getting sentenced is a true fact that can be reported.

You mean the picture of him kissing her cheek? Yeah, it doesn't look good. But it's still not really solid proof, even if it's super weird. People say the letters could be faked too. I think they're just waiting for something more solid. Though MDL is also not just a news site, it took them a while to even report that KSR had passed away.

I do continue to believe there is absolutely no way he's not involved in some way. Ain't no way.

If there is no solid evidence (yet), I don't think they can post articles about it.

But yes I got called slurs and harassed here when I only vaguely pointed out KSR passed away on KSH's birthday and that it was not looking good for him. I mean I don't want to destroy someone's life if this by some huge miracle is just a big misunderstanding. But I continue to find that hard to believe.