Some stupidity that is so silly with ep4..1) when a colleague tells his captain abt a potential crime nexus in…
1. This is true, but Yoo Dong-man is a very exaggerated character unlike detectives in real life, so I don't know why you expect his colleagues to react to him like he's a normal policeman.
2. Bullying and immature gossip seem endemic in Korean schools based not just on kdrama cliches but also on news stories and mental health statistics about Korean society. And unfairly blaming and ostracizing kids for their parents' actions is a recurring trope in kdrama precisely because it's a social issue that Korean TV makers feel they have to address.
Psychological assessments and screening do not ensure you'll get a group of virtuous people who will never gang up on someone they perceive as weaker, especially not in institutional cultures where bullying is a serious problem, and also... there were no psychological assessments and personality tests shown in the drama, so why do you assume Oh Kang-hee's classmates passed such tests?
3. Again, your criticism seems to be "people with these credentials could not possibly be so petty in real life," which is simply not true. Additionally, there's clearly more to Prof. Kwon's dislike of YDM than the incident YDM caused years ago; they seem to represent opposite approaches to policing and standards of professionalism.
4. Hacking a student discussion board to delete a cruel thread is morally AND legally very different from hacking into a criminal organisation's bank account on an unofficial request from a cop who's not technically on the case anymore. Doing the former while having reservations about the latter makes perfect sense.
5. The professors' treatment of OKH was most likely exaggerated for dramatic effect, yes, but also "cops are supposed to be better than this" is, again, simply not based on fact... Cops are *not* better than this, not in Korea and not anywhere else. The police is a notoriously discriminatory institution in almost every country in the world: on the basis of gender, race, and sexuality, as well as against homeless people and perceived criminals. If OKH is considered tainted by her mother's crimes in Korean culture, then it's perfectly conceivable she may face discrimination in university.
6. Uh... YDM was shocked by the thing he found out and wanted to address it immediately because he's a hothead, Prof. Kwon was driving slowly because he was on campus and how do you know he didn't see them? I can tell you were sick of the drama by this scene...
It's a silly and lighthearted drama that is not meant to be taken seriously, so I'm not saying everything in it makes sense, but you picked some peripheral issues to nitpick. In general, you seem upset that the drama portrays the police as a flawed institution full of prejudiced people, which is actually the most realistic aspect of it IMO--and also something that is very prevalent in Korean TV. Maybe kdramas aren't for you if you object to negative representations of police.
This was a lovely drama and probably my favourite romantic jdrama. It contains a lot of the best of romantic jdramas (understated, complex and occasionally raw emotions, adult characters, realistic and touching portrayal of existential struggles and relationships) and very little of the worst (dragged out love triangles, the leads denying their feelings until the last moment, pointless separations and long-distance relationships in the last episode, etc.).
That said, it did have one thing I hate in jdramas: an annoying second male lead who gets way, way too much screentime and attention. Every time you think the President has finally taken the hint that Kurumi likes Shun, he turns around and inserts himself between them again. And in the final episodes we're supposed to treat it as noble and well-intentioned, like when he hijacks Kurumi's date with Shun to go to the fancy restaurant with her!
I wish there was less of this useless guy, but other than that, a great drama.
What I love about this drama is that it portrays Seon-ho's adoptive family as real and loving, which is relatively rare in kdramas (or at least it was until a few years ago). His occasional insecurity about his place in Mr Yoon and Seung-beom's lives is realistic, but it's obvious that the three of them love each other and that Mr Yoon is a great father to both SH and SB. It warms my heart!
Dropping this after two episodes. The cold perfect tsundere who's spent 20 years waiting for a girl he met on the playground once being mean to the FL until he realises she's the girl he's been waiting for and then suddenly becoming obsessed with her and deciding they're going to get married is such a cringy premise I just can't get past it--and coupled with the absurd height difference and the FL's exaggerated plucky cutesy personality, it's everything that is annoying about cdramas in one place.
Chu Chu is obviously a nice girl, but she’s so stupid I just can’t force myself to care about her as the lead. The romance between her and Xiao Jinyu completely lacks passion and intrigue because of how childish and oblivious she is. It’s not even believable that he would like her! Why is it so hard to find good FLs in cdramas?
…with Kang Hee being annoyed by Sun Ho at the Judo match and her taking loads of episodes to warm up to him.…
Yeah, I like Kang-hee's character. At first she seemed like a cold overachiever, but pretty quickly it became clear she's also wise and open to letting people surprise her. She recognises Sun-ho's positive qualities and is introspective and observant. I hope she and Sun-ho continue to support and learn from each other.
And you're right that a more stereotypical romantic dynamic has been transposed onto Sun-ho's mentor-mentee relationship with YDM, which is pretty funny.
Jin Seo-yeon, I've missed you, queen! Such an underrated actress.
This will be Honey Lee's second time playing a corrupt prosecutor in a comedy; I enjoyed her performance in The Fiery Priest. I'm curious about Lee Sang-yoon's performance in a comedy too.
I have a question about the synopsis, though: Will Honey Lee's character be married to Lee Sang-yoon's? The synopsis calls her a daughter-in-law, but also talks about Han Seung-wook reconnecting with his first love. I'm not sure I understand how this will all play out.
This is so fun and fresh! I love the dynamic between Doo-shim and Woo-soo, which is relatively unusual for a teen kdrama: while the ML is rich, handsome and smart as usual, the FL is not passive or academically challenged yet relentlessly positive, as is so often the case, but brooding, mysterious and badass in her own right, and the ML finds himself dragged into her orbit against his will and having to ask for her guidance instead of being obsessed with her for no reason. They’re evenly matched and it makes sense for them to become interested in each other (as they now have a very unique and important ability in common).
My only complaint is that I wish this was a full-length drama. Now I’ll have to try to ignore the weekly updates until it’s finished and marathon the rest of it like it’s a movie.
Wasn‘t vincenzo also a korean netflix production ? It was also 20 episodes
No, it was a TvN drama. Netflix got the international distribution rights, but it did not commission the production of the drama, which is why it followed the conventional TV format and complied with domestic TV regulations (such as the ban on showing people smoking, hence Vincenzo never actually getting to smoke).
This sounds cool! Alternate history is always a fun genre, and sageuks haven't revisited the seafaring theme and the sea as a setting in a while. It should be more interesting than the usual palace intrigue fest. I just hope SBS gives this project a big enough budget to make the naval battle scenes look good.
Ridiculously melodramatic premise AND grandpa Yoon Kye-sang and Go Ah-sung are going to try to act like they have buried romantic history and sexual tension? (Also can Korean directors stop casting 28-year-olds as accomplished criminal profilers/prosecutors/judges/whatever? It's so cringe, and here the fact YKS is so old should have FORCED them to cast an age-appropriate female lead, yet here we are.) Sounds like a mess on multiple levels.
Is it just me or is this the first Korean Netflix production that has 16+ episodes? All the ones I can think of that weren't collaborations with Korean TV channels were 6, 8, 10 episodes long.
I wonder if they're starting to adjust to the preferred format of Korean audiences and international drama fans or if they're thinking of co-producing this for regular TV.
2. Bullying and immature gossip seem endemic in Korean schools based not just on kdrama cliches but also on news stories and mental health statistics about Korean society. And unfairly blaming and ostracizing kids for their parents' actions is a recurring trope in kdrama precisely because it's a social issue that Korean TV makers feel they have to address.
Psychological assessments and screening do not ensure you'll get a group of virtuous people who will never gang up on someone they perceive as weaker, especially not in institutional cultures where bullying is a serious problem, and also... there were no psychological assessments and personality tests shown in the drama, so why do you assume Oh Kang-hee's classmates passed such tests?
3. Again, your criticism seems to be "people with these credentials could not possibly be so petty in real life," which is simply not true. Additionally, there's clearly more to Prof. Kwon's dislike of YDM than the incident YDM caused years ago; they seem to represent opposite approaches to policing and standards of professionalism.
4. Hacking a student discussion board to delete a cruel thread is morally AND legally very different from hacking into a criminal organisation's bank account on an unofficial request from a cop who's not technically on the case anymore. Doing the former while having reservations about the latter makes perfect sense.
5. The professors' treatment of OKH was most likely exaggerated for dramatic effect, yes, but also "cops are supposed to be better than this" is, again, simply not based on fact... Cops are *not* better than this, not in Korea and not anywhere else. The police is a notoriously discriminatory institution in almost every country in the world: on the basis of gender, race, and sexuality, as well as against homeless people and perceived criminals. If OKH is considered tainted by her mother's crimes in Korean culture, then it's perfectly conceivable she may face discrimination in university.
6. Uh... YDM was shocked by the thing he found out and wanted to address it immediately because he's a hothead, Prof. Kwon was driving slowly because he was on campus and how do you know he didn't see them? I can tell you were sick of the drama by this scene...
It's a silly and lighthearted drama that is not meant to be taken seriously, so I'm not saying everything in it makes sense, but you picked some peripheral issues to nitpick. In general, you seem upset that the drama portrays the police as a flawed institution full of prejudiced people, which is actually the most realistic aspect of it IMO--and also something that is very prevalent in Korean TV. Maybe kdramas aren't for you if you object to negative representations of police.
That said, it did have one thing I hate in jdramas: an annoying second male lead who gets way, way too much screentime and attention. Every time you think the President has finally taken the hint that Kurumi likes Shun, he turns around and inserts himself between them again. And in the final episodes we're supposed to treat it as noble and well-intentioned, like when he hijacks Kurumi's date with Shun to go to the fancy restaurant with her!
I wish there was less of this useless guy, but other than that, a great drama.
And you're right that a more stereotypical romantic dynamic has been transposed onto Sun-ho's mentor-mentee relationship with YDM, which is pretty funny.
This will be Honey Lee's second time playing a corrupt prosecutor in a comedy; I enjoyed her performance in The Fiery Priest. I'm curious about Lee Sang-yoon's performance in a comedy too.
I have a question about the synopsis, though: Will Honey Lee's character be married to Lee Sang-yoon's? The synopsis calls her a daughter-in-law, but also talks about Han Seung-wook reconnecting with his first love. I'm not sure I understand how this will all play out.
My only complaint is that I wish this was a full-length drama. Now I’ll have to try to ignore the weekly updates until it’s finished and marathon the rest of it like it’s a movie.
I wonder if they're starting to adjust to the preferred format of Korean audiences and international drama fans or if they're thinking of co-producing this for regular TV.