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Okay, you want to continue.

First, I live in the same area as this story. I know the norms in this story. I know how influential parents are in marriage, especially in that era.

Like I said, 'it's all because there is a cause, there is an effect.'

You keep saying 'because CA can't predict the future, he is not guilty because he loves KN.'

I keep saying you to think, 'if CA really loves KN and wants to propose to her again? why didn't he come himself? and instead sent DYX?'

CA is still not KN's husband. Why do you link it to him being KN's husband? CA's status here is like an ex-fiancée not a husband. And DYX himself was not told by CA that he and KN were previously engaged.

This is very different from your analogy which links it to 'you let your husband meet your friend and it turns out your husband got engaged to her'

CA's status is an ex-fiancée and your husband is a husband. That's very different.

You should ask "I told my friend to stop my ex-fiancé from finding a new groom. But I also didn't tell my friend that I was also her ex-fiancé." LMAO

CA already knew that KN was finally engaged to DYX but still tried to get KN by telling her mother that he was going to sail away? Isn't that trying to destroy someone else's marriage? where DYX is completely innocent? and also CA himself said at wedding night ep 10 that if the one in the waggon is not KN, he would take KN with her and then sail. That's stealing the bride and can lead to more trouble.

As I said before, if CA still loves KN, why did he have to send someone else to ruin the contest? why didn't he come down himself and say it out loud that he still loves KN in the contest? Is he embarrassed? because his first engagement failed?

I also said it above, what you have to think about here is that the setting of the story is in an era where parents and matchmakers take care of everything. There are even those who have never met at all and have not seen each other's faces and get married. At that time if the marriage is canceled, it can cause various problems in the future for both sides family and may be brought to court.

Yeah, I agree with that. Even if we make plans, there is always a chance that it will fail. And we don't know what other people think about us, right? If I were in that position, I would have to be more careful not to offend the family whose daughter I wanted to marry.

Just think, if CA didn't tell DYX to ruin the contest, Li family will not know DYX and KN will not trying to get close to DYX. If CA himself the one who ruin it, maybe we can see another story.

But what can we do, these are all stories written by the author, because all of that has to happen so that the next couple's story can be connected.

And here we disagree with each other's opinions. lol

As I recall the difference is here
- Girls, hair can be loose and if you want to bun it must be simple and can only wear simple accessories such as ribbons.
- Married, must bun their hair up as a sign of maturity and can wear many accessories.
- Widows, such as those who are married but do not wear much accessories.

Why did KN blame CA, because if his engagement with CA didn't fail, SH wouldn't have to marry DYX instead of KN, right? If from the beginning CA didn't tell DYX to thwart the son-in-law search event, DYX wouldn't have met KN, right? If CA herself had firmly wanted to marry KN, it wouldn't have been like this, right?

Here CA asked for help from DYX and because DYX had a debt of gratitude to CA, of course he wouldn't ask much because his goal was to repay the favor. And also DYX was initially undercover when carrying out CA's request and thought he wouldn't be caught because he would only meet once. But from the story itself, they had to meet again.

Meanwhile, according to your thinking, does that mean it's okay to destroy an innocent person's marriage? even that person has nothing to do with the problem that occurred and you have to destroy his marriage? Oh, that's terrible, but everything can be in the name of LOVE

CA is a smart guy, can't he guess the possibility there? This is a marriage made by matchmakers and parents. At that time if the marriage is canceled, it can cause various problems in the future for both parties and may be brought to court.

and I think you didn't read this one on the post i replied before
'At the DYX and SH arc we are also shown when a problem occurs, it is shown that KN is angry with CA and feels that all the misfortunes that happened to SH were because of CA.'
KN herself said that.

i think you still dont know what the mean 'Man that marry into Woman Family'

As I said DYX still has to marry a member of the Li family to repay them for saving him from the brink of death. And at that time, it was not wrong to marry without knowing the face of the partner and maybe never met at all. Because we also know that this marriage problem is arranged by the matchmaker and also the parents.

If you know that the one who should marry A but she is in front of you and married you. You still don't know that you are the one who caused the bride who should marry A to change?

There is a reason why they waited until the announcement of the DYX exam before holding the wedding. When he graduated, his social status rose one level and here it is shown that DYX graduated in 3rd place which the emperor had high hopes for the 3 highest ranks where he could become an official with power later. That is why SH initially married and entered the Du family.

But now DYX in order to fix all the problems caused by him and wants to remarry SH. He chooses to become a 'Zhui Xu' man who enters a woman's family. He lowers his status again in order to marry SH.

Since we know that CA is a smart and resourceful person, he should have guessed that something happened that caused KN to cancel their engagement. From ep 6 we also know the reason why KN didn't tell CA that his mother used various ways to oppose their marriage so that CA's relationship with his mother would remain good. But here we are also shown that CA is hurt and said 'Kan Ning, you don't trust me'.

If I were CA, I would find out the real reason because 'there can be no smoke without fire' and that's what he should find.

But unfortunately, that didn't happen and we can only guess that CA is still hurt by KN's actions.

For the next problem that CA asked DYX for help, he should have told him the reason why he wanted to ruin the contest so that even though DYX was later helped by the Li family, he could ask for another bride (if possible) and if he was indeed told to marry KN, DYX might be able to help CA think of a way.
But I'm also sure that if CA told DYX the reason, DYX wouldn't agree to help CA's scenario or you could say it's 50/50 because DYX might think that CA still has feelings for KN and is still trying to get KN back.

In ep 7, we were shown the conflict between CA and KN, starting from raising the wall, cutting down trees, and KN playing the flute to get DYX's attention. In ep 8, KN also thought of various ways to get DYX's attention from a book, container and inkstone. I think this is like a hint 'You ruined my literary matchmaking, so you have to fix it'. And this is what caused DYX to propose to KN.

If KN told CA what really happened, the above problem wouldn't have appeared and maybe it would have been replaced with CA focusing on trying desperately to persuade her mother or maybe another problem. And also that would make DYX's story different later.

That's why I said DYX who doesn't understand anything is pulled by CA and KN who even though they still like each other but don't want to honest with their feelings for each other. And that makes DYX's introduction as a cold guy to SH at the beginning of their arc.

Do you think we are allowed to do anything in the name of love even by destroying an innocent person's marriage? I don't think so.

That's why I said CA and KN caused the story of DYX and SH to be like this.
But don't worry, I also know that all this had to happen so that DYX met SH, so that CA could be happy with KN and also for the other couples.

In the DYX and SH arc we are also shown when a problem occurs, it is shown that KN is angry with CA and feels that all the misfortunes that happened to SH were because of CA.

Every cause must have an effect.

DYX's introduction was indeed bland because he came from a lower class that was probably lower than the Li family originally and also because he was just a poor scholar who lived in a temple and had difficulty even eating. I still clearly remember DYX's introduction painting on the wall with a broom.
But yeah, many of them just judging by the cover.

Who told DYX to ruin the son-in-law search competition for KN and ended up embarrassing the Li family? Chai An
Who said that DYX might be Juren to Madam Li when they save him from freezing death? Kan Ning
And from here began the feud between CA and KN which instead dragged DYX into their love story. DYX did not know that CA and KN were initially engaged and failed because CA's mother did not approve.
Ah, so I should blame CA's mother who did not approve.
But I still don't like the actions of the Li family who initially introduced KN as the candidate but suddenly changed it just 2 days before DYX's wedding date.
Although DYX's action to propose to KN was initially to repay the favor because the Li family saved him from freezing to death, I still think it's inappropriate. If I were DYX, I would still have my pride where the Li family replaced the bride with a woman he had never heard of or met.

And again, this is all a story that had to happen so that everyone could be a couple.

I'm sure many people don't like DYX because there are many spoilers showing him hitting SH, divorcing her, making Madam Du want to commit suicide etc.
This is all answered in ep 18~19 which is the end of their arc.
But you should be able to draw thin threads why DYX did all that. In ep 16 when DYX picked up Madam Du at 'Minister Yu's' residence, you were shown Madam Du who wanted to go home immediately when she heard 'Minister Yu's' voice, here indicating that Madam Du knew 'Minister Yu'. When DYX accompanied Madam Du to sleep, he remembered Madam Du's reaction to Minister Yu, it was unusual and he also remembered the jade he had and was shown to have a carving that said 'Fang'. So what is their relationship? Before that we go back to ep 14, from that ep you should know that DYX is Madam Du's adopted son. When DYX pretended to be drunk, he told everything to SH which finally ended with SH kissing DYX's forehead and ended with 'their first night'.

Okay back to ep 16, so does DYX also have a connection with Minister Yu? Of course there is a thin thread in ep 17 where when DYX visited Minister Yu's residence again at the beginning of the ep, you were shown him being taken to Minister Yu's studyroom, when he was about to enter he saw a large sign that said 'LiuFang House'. Here there should be a question that arises 'What caused Madam Du to be afraid when she heard Minister Yu's voice? And why must there be the name Fang in Minister Yu's residence?' From here we move forward to the middle of the ep, you are shown that SH had a nightmare and then DYX came, wiped SH's tears and then wanted to kiss her forehead but he stopped. When DYX was about to stand up, SH held DYX's hand and then SH told him about her nightmare. There you are also shown DYX's thoughts. From here you should be able to guess that DYX will do something again, but what? So keep watching ep 17 until the end. Starting from breaking off the sworn brotherhood with Sang Andao, causing a commotion that ended up with him 'accidentally' hitting SH, when that happened you could also see DYX's shocked face because he hit SH and DYX also asked 'My wife, let me see your wound.' but SH replied 'I'm fine.' from here we also know that DYX feels guilty. After that, you are shown DYX explaining that he did all this so that SH would not be far from her family. But do you think that's the TRUE? think again and keep that in mind. Nearing the end you are shown Madam Du trying to hang herself and here Madam Du also talks about her late 'Madam' and also continues to say that she has failed to educate the 'young master'.

From here you should be able to guess the relationship between 'Madam Du' and 'Minister Yu'.

for ep 18-19 it seems that if I explain it, it will not be exciting for you who watch. But the point is DYX planned to destroy 'Minister Yu' but unfortunately it all had to come at a price because according to the law at that time, if a 'Son' tarnished the name of his 'Father' he would definitely get the 'Death Penalty'. If SH, Madam Du, and Sang Andao were still family with DYX, the punishment could drag them too who might be given the death penalty too or maybe exile.

If you ask me 'who caused all that to happen?'
1. Chan Ai and Kan Ning, why? because KN should have been married to DYX and if KN and DYX were married, maybe the above scenario would happen. But of course there would be other problems.
2. Minister Yu. Oh of course this one father is also a problem. but if DYX and Minister Yu had not met, all the problems above would not have happened.
3. Yu Xiue. If only this minister's daughter had not fallen in love or kept trying to destroy SH's marriage with DYX, the problems above would not have happened either. Even her mother blames her for everything that happened. LoL

But it's all to connect the story, so I can accept it. If there wasn't this story, maybe the pairing for the 4th and 5th girls would be different.

Okay, this is my take on DYX and why I like the bitter sweet story between DYX and SH.
I wrote it below because it contains HEAVY spoilers.

Even if the 1st husband dad wants to give his wealth, I don't think he will accept it. And if his dad still insists, it will be a new problem in the future.

3rd & 2nd i think have near same power since they real maternal cousins

i just thought SH for Shouhua but then you mean for Shen Hui lol

But here is the funny part. Since DYX is married into Li Household, that mean DYX is now part of Li family not Du family who is lower than CA and FLH.
So i think base from family status is 5th > 4th > 3rd & 2nd > 1st husband.
But from the husband personal status is 5th > 4th >1st > 3rd & 2nd for now.
And i think DYX can climb more high since he now have in-laws that have higher status the 5th and 4th and got a good impression from the empress dowager.

For me, when DYX said that to SH, it was just to cover up his plan to destroy the Yu family (his father), because DYX didn't want to involve SH, Madam Du, and Sang Andao in the punishment he would receive, which I'm sure DYX also knew could be the death penalty.

Qiong Nu still not married yet with KN twin and that's why her status is 'adopted sister' not daughter-in-law in Li family.

for me you can see the 'clue' Fuhui pregnant at ep 15 when SH want to give her a 'set baby cloth and toy?' but then KN say 'we dont know she pregnant yet or not' and when they done arrest the mother and daughter who blackmail Madam Li, you can see Fuhui like smiling happy see baby cloth at background when SH and KN talking. And then at opening ep 16 you can see Fuhui's stomach has begun to enlarge showing that she has been pregnant for several months? I think from ep 15 to 16 there is some time gap like maybe some months? since that's impossible her belly just shows up big in one night.

Watch again ep 18 at 38:00, DYX tells thats Madam Du must demaging her face since someone there is a Assassins who came again and again to target her. Because of that, Madam Du prefers to live a simple life so as not to get caught.

I think not, at ep 17 when Madam Du want to hanging herself, you are shown how Madam Du feels about the late 'Madam' and also calls DYX as 'young master'. Here you can draw the line that Madam Du was previously a servant of DYX's real mother and in ep 18 it is also made clear when DYX tells everything that Madam Du who is called 'Qian'er' is a maid that DYX's mother 'Madam Xie' met when she sold herself as a maid for 3 years as her way to make money for her husband so he can focus study to become scholar.