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I have a question that might sound a bit insensitive, but I’d like to understand better. Why is it such a big deal for Tanwa to be afraid of being abandoned? His mother killed herself, so in that sense she did leave him (I assume her death was linked to her father’s pressure or her unhappiness in the marriage). But why would that specific event carry over so strongly into his relationships now? It feels like I would need to see more examples of people leaving him to fully grasp why it’s such a huge issue for him to get close to someone. From my perspective, Trin could leave him for very different reasons than the ones behind his mother’s death. That’s the part of his trauma I don’t quite understand,it seems strange, especially since Trin has made it clear that he genuinely wants to stay with him.

It’s really refreshing to have a conversation that doesn’t revolve around pointless worries!
1 Have you seen the preview for the next episode? It looks like things are about to get really messy, so having that softer, more endearing side of Victor in episode 5 was absolutely necessary. Now we’ll finally see how his feelings clash with his political fight, or at least that being in love isn’t his only defining trait. I’ve believed that since the trailer, where he was already shown protesting. Still, some shippers annoyed by the attention he’s getting act as if BOC ruined a character they spent four episodes building, all because of a single episode. The show isn’t even finished yet, and that kind of reaction really sucks.


2 I’ll admit, at first I didn’t quite understand why they’d fall in love. For Tanwa, Trin didn’t seem that special, he’s grown up in wealthy circles and has probably seen many “Trins” before. Maybe he was just drawn in because Trin is attractive? I wonder about that initiating kiss, but maybe it’s not that deep, maybe it’s just hedonism: he found Trin interesting enough in conversation and decided he was worth kissing and fooling around with. As for Trin, I expected him to be the reluctant, conflicted upper-class guy whose worldview would be shaken by Tanwa. But from the start, he already seemed aware of injustice, his friend lives a lifestyle similar to Tanwa’s, he had queer friends in Paris, and overall he seemed very open-minded, even without Tanwa’s influence. So at first I didn’t really see why he’d fall for him specifically. But again, maybe it’s not that deep, sometimes love just happens over simple things. By episode 2, I was already intrigued by their dynamic, enjoying the flirting and back-and-forth. I actually like how Trin’s character turned out: open to new perspectives, willing to take the initiative (whether with the kiss, or bringing up tough conversations about his feelings, or showing attraction).


3 The “moral police” really confuses me. Don’t most of us come from KinnPorsche fandom? I’m not even talking about KP’s controversies, but the fact that it was set in the mafia world, there’s nothing inherently romantic about that setting, yet we all ate up every crumb of romance. So saying this story is problematic feels like a useless argument. The show isn’t romanticizing cheating, it’s just portraying it in this specific historical context. I honestly didn’t expect people to blow it up into such a big deal. Some viewers are just too sensitive, and it feels like they’re watching Shine for the wrong reasons if they can’t see why the cheating is part of the plot.

 About the sex scenes: nothing really shocked me since KP. I take them as I would any other scene, sometimes they’re important, sometimes less so. The first one was essential, the ones in episode 4 probably set up their routine, and the one in episode 5 led into that important talk afterward. You can tell their connection started with physical attraction, it’s their easy escape, a way of being close without words. In episode 4, Naran kept cutting off conversations to focus on kissing, and honestly I found myself wanting the same, because as we saw in episode 5, once they start talking it turns into work and politics, which we know will end badly. It’s like: sex leads to feelings and intimacy, but words lead to doom. So while I wouldn’t call the sex scenes “useless,” I’m not that invested in Krailert and Naran’s intimacy. If I rewatch an episode, I could skip those parts, but I still get why they’re necessary in the story.


4 I agree with you, it’s nice that we both found that first kiss confusing, but I think since the show only has 8 episodes, it was a quick way to establish that Trin feels romantic or sexual attraction to a man without dragging it out. And once he realized that, I loved their scenes together because he doesn’t shy away as much as I expected. I hate how some fans want to categorize characters as simply “good” or “bad.” To me, they’re just human, both uncomfortable in their own ways with the situation they’re in. You can tell Tanwa notices Trin’s interest and wants something concrete, which he shows by pursuing him. If there are things Tanwa doesn’t say or do, it’s because of his own struggles,struggles Trin doesn’t fully grasp yet, since he’s still working through accepting his sexuality, being sensitive, and valuing deep relationships. Trin listens to Tanwa and wants to help, but Tanwa isn’t ready to accept that, so there’s frustration on both sides. Hopefully they’ll work through this and become a solid, stable couple, something Krailert and Naran don’t have, since their relationship jumped straight into physical attraction without addressing status or personal issues. In that sense, Trin actually wins, he manages to take their relationship somewhere meaningful, and I really love that for both him and Tanwa.

bc it’s dumb, they’re actors and Apo expecially seems to want to open himself to different types of genres, roles and formats, it’s only bc of BL, the demography they touched that they have to be fixed like that and that it becomes a big issue when they aren’t. If I remember right they weren’t that close during Filmania, they really worked on their friendship in BIC and it worked until it didn’t, you can’t force or expect 2 ppl to stick to eo forever. Glad that ppl are being real at least, weird to only be supporting someone as a part of a ship and not for their art
edit: CEO said at the beginning of the year that BOC won’t have fixed pairs, and while this could apply to anyone in the company I realize that they only have one fixed pair atm and it’s MA, and he didn’t exclude them so most likely this take applies to them as well and that’s a soft launch? If MA are already disappointed in them what is there left for them to do?

With this mentality it looks like even if they were doing things together ppl would accuse them of only doing so bc of the show, I think it’s just a lose lose situation for them. They’ll follow different paths in the future and have all the right to focus on other things, they worked hard on Shine and it sucks that people can only validate their work if they are seen hanging out together or doing interviews everyday. They did some interesting interviews, and they have Dior and the fan screening when their schedules allow it. If they only did Shine bc of the commitment then I don’t think seeing them together for events would change something toward your current feelings abt them. Don’t know for Dior but usually Thai actors contracts are known to last for years with a house, names like Yaya have been working with LV for 9 years and is still going strong, so MA breaking their contract would be a first for Thailand, idk how it works

Apo was a costume designer and co producer for this show, CEO said that he even directed the opening scene. He’s been promoting this show since forever and also at his events also. All he did for the new movie was posting a pic with the cast members and answering on twitter, which he does with everyone if he’s on the app, like he is only active on twitter when Shine airs rn. It’s disappointing but expected to have this weird narrative abt him doing nothing for this show. Not to mention that neither him nor Mile got paid for this one plus they even put money on it.

storyline, issues addressed and the age of the characters seems to not follow a BL formula, and based on how some people are receiving it, I definitely think it was a fair thing to call it gay serie

Rockie of the year (if that’s an award then he must take it!). This is such a good debut serie, if he leans on acting in the future I hope this show will open him for more great opportunities

I’ve seen mixed opinions about Shine, so I’d like to share my point of view regarding two main complaints I usually see on social media and here.


First, I’m disappointed by the way some MileApo fans behave toward the characters and the love story. From what I’ve seen, they either complain about a lack of screentime (compared to another ship) or about Victor. Since most people seem more likely to side with Trin or Victor rather than Tanwa, they end up invalidating Trin’s feelings as well, especially when judging the last scene where he asks Tanwa to leave his place.

Regarding the screentime issue, I think it’s a weak and disappointing argument. You’re watching a gay series set in the 60s–70s that explores queer identities and struggles alongside the politics of the time, yet somehow all some expect is a daily dose of CP screentime. To me, that shows a lack of interest in the storyline and in the characters themselves. Trin and Tanwa exist outside of their romance (yes, I’ve seen complaints about Tanwa’s limited appearance, but I’m sure the show knows where it’s going, this is BOC, after all, and they clearly did their homework on the period). Both appear throughout the series, showing their lifestyle, views, and relationships with others. And yet, people still complain about their breakup? If you really followed their arcs, you’d understand why it happened. But apparently, it’s easier to complain to the company about not showing them “in love” enough. It sucks to see people prioritize CP moments over storytelling, especially in a show like this. Maybe they should stan other artists, because it’s clear BOC values the plot just as much as the romance. What’s worse is when fans throw their frustration at the characters. Take Trin, for example: yes, we understand Tanwa’s trauma, so Trin asking for certain things may seem unempathetic or problematic (and vice versa, since I’ve seen people calling Tanwa a red flag). But that doesn’t mean either of them is “wrong.” If you understand their characters, you’d know why it’s important for Trin to want a stable relationship, and equally important for Tanwa (at this point) not to. They’ll eventually overcome this issue, and yes, it’s obvious that it will take a few episodes. Some people act like they’re in the writers’ room and already know three episodes won’t be enough. We should remember that professionals worked on these storylines and know how to tell their story, otherwise, why bother creating so many complex characters?

Finally, the Victor hate is getting ridiculous. God forbid a young man experiences his first crush on someone who might also be interested in men. Breaking news: Victor isn’t a full-time revolutionary robot, he’s allowed to have feelings too. Yet people act like his character is suddenly ruined and that he’ll forget his political fight for the rest of the show. Somehow it’s fine for Trin to love Tanwa and still be politically active, but not for Victor? It’s time to focus on the story, because that’s what shapes how the characters grow in love and in their struggles.


Second, the whole “main vs. second CP” debate is pointless. There’s nothing wrong with having a favorite couple, both ships bring different tropes and love stories that people can enjoy in their own ways. Personally, I prefer slow burns and relationship building, so even TrinTanwa’s start with the kiss wasn’t exactly my thing. Still, while I was intrigued by them, I also found Krailert and Naran interesting at first, especially with how they connected without knowing who the other really was. But then they kissed in episode 2 and by episode 3 they were having sex, and while I understood why, I lost interest because the tension disappeared too quickly for my taste. By contrast, watching Trin and Tanwa flirt, enjoy each other’s company, and share tender moments without needing “the big words” made me more invested. Even in episode 5, I loved how sweet they were just talking in bed and falling asleep together.I enjoy TrinTanwa for what they are and appreciate the slower pace. I also enjoy Krai–Naran more for the symbolism of their relationship, the clashes they’ll face, and the future angst, even if I’m less invested romantically. (And honestly, this may just be me, but I don’t find Son Yuke very convincing in love,he’s a good actor, but I don’t feel the spark. The only ones who really convince me romantically are Apo and Victor, maybe also the actors for Dhevi and Vera.) Still, both couples add something valuable to the story.That’s why it sucks to see fans acting like one pairing is “ruining” the storyline. It just shows that some people don’t care about plot or character depth, they only want CPs to act like CPs. And then, ironically, they also complain when CPs “do too much” (like people whining about “useless” NC scenes).


In the end, I wish we could all enjoy Shine for the amazing story it is, instead of getting lost in pointless fights

Edit: I remember how some people crashed out when they said it was a gay serie and not a BL, trying to call them homophobic or whatever, but when I look at some people debates, worries and interests, I totally get it, some BL audience could never resonate with such stories bc they don’t come there with the right spirit, they expect CP to shine and are disappointed by a lack of romance and abt the way the characters communicate with each other in such an era