Lilyshin

Tbh i went back and rewatched these parts, and honestly I feel like Tanwa is a character that could be deleted off the series and we wont even notice. He doesn't have a lot of participation with the main story line.

The more I learned about the series the more I'm disappointed in Mile’s character and that shine series team didn't have an understanding of what a 70s hippie is like. It made me realize they didn't do their homework for Tanwa character.

Because I was only interested in Mileapo. And when it comes to politics, people honestly have unfortunately different outputs. Which leads to arguments, and that's what I'm not here for.

But to say on a deeper level: I don't think Shine team grasped the essence of a 70s hippies, Hippies are anticonsumerism/anti-culture/utopian idealism/anti-war groups. Mile said in his opinion hippies are “happy druggy do whatever types” which is not true. None of those are portrayed on Tanwa. I said this in another comment and alot of “Mileapo” fans started attacking me

I literally watched the show for one person only and it was Mile, the character he plays seems so versatile and interesting. I was not a fan of Apo/Son/ rest of the cast members. And I even skipped every single part Victor was in on the first 3 episodes. But then episode 4 converted me….like I’m floored by Victor’s incredible acting.

A lot of people said it’s to drive the political aspects of the show more, like make it better, tragedy and heroic trope type? But the thing is I still couldn’t get over how good Victor’s chemistry is with Trin ( I know it’s one sided but like I’m in shock)

Um No one said they were boring? They legit went skinny dipping..

isnt that a bit extreme? Considering it just a trailer and you haven’t seen the full story.

It is originated from the western standpoint though. Almost all the elements. P’pond explained it in the interview.

https://youtu.be/UasKBuH392A?si=5_6xgkn_Jjg-pNe7

You are absolutely right regarding how the show failed to dig deeper on Trin and Tanwa's relationship. This sucks because when I watch the teaser I legit only liked and was excited about Tanwa's character, there's so many direction and possibility. But as the series go on, Tanwa's character fell flat.

Every time Trin says something, Tanwa just run with the "Just go with the flow". Ok...like...what else? I see how Tanwa is very vulnerable at the end of episode 4 and asked Trin opened his heart out so Trin kissed Tanwa. That seems a bit rushed out.....The beach scene is beautiful though and I do see the vision.

I feel like maybe the screenwriters are not doing a good job with this character outline?? or did they forgot about TanwaTrin and mainly focusing on the second couple??

No. I was focusing on Tanwa as a character and you kept on bring up Mile and his previous acting roles( which doesn't make sense since I'm talking about Tanwa and not Kinnporshe).

Other commenter replied to me saying that this character is "individual" to Mile, like the character is made for him so it's himself. To prove how ridiculous this sounds I replied with ok in my opinion Tanwa isn't charismatic. Is that an issue?

If you watch the official teaser, in the narration it did say that Tanwa is a 70s popular and renowned singer/popstar, that’s his character. And regarding “androgyny” style: it became popular in the 1970s due to the era's focus on individualism, freedom of expression, and challenges to traditional gender norms, amplified by social movements like women's liberation and the Gay Liberation Movement. The emergence of glam rock, disco culture. So how is that me putting Tanwa’s character in a box?

Kris Pond ( shine’s script writer) literally explained why he chose this particular time period and this was the direction he was trying to take. You can watch his interview with beyond borders on YouTube from 1 month ago.

Also you are basically saying Mile is playing himself. His “individual style” in the shine series. That what I’m getting from your point.

Ok then in my opinion he has no star quality, not that good of a singer. A bit obnoxious and rude by episode 4. Trin asked Tawan to meet him at the bar just to tell him “ please don’t come to my workplace again. “ Tawan has zero boundaries nor does Tawan respect other people’s boundaries. Making weird faces and beefing with a student, how does that match up to his 70s renowned popstar character with a wealthy political family background? What? To appear rebellious? Ok I guess that’s what Mile’s like in real life than, my bad.

I think Tanwa is a very challenging character to act out, it truly tests an actor’s hidden charisma. Tanwa’s character is androgynous, mysterious( due to his complicated family background), very promiscuous but not to the point dislike-able, vulnerable, has major pop star qualities. If done incorrectly, it could make this character look obnoxious. I’m not saying Mile isn’t handsome or beautiful, maybe his acting skills needed improvement in this series? Or maybe he doesn’t fit this particular style?

Since Dr. Trin fell in love with Tanwa and it was love at first sight, Tanwa has to have a beautiful androgynous appearance and a very luring/ charismatic personality. Not just “slutty”, spontaneous, or freedom loving.

Tanwa has to be more than that.

Example: the main protagonist in the movie Velvet Goldmine (1998) is very similar to what I imagined Tanwa would be like in terms of personality etc Atsushi Sakurai is also a great one.

Same

Ok now I do see that. Its just I guess this is the first time Ive ever watched a BL drama ( or ML) that's so politically involved and 1969 is such a critical time period…so I guess I overthinked their love relationship.

it is possible for someone to become a professor at around 30. Victor’s age would be somewhere around 19-22? Since he's in college. I don't see the age gap to be too unrealistic.

Yes so far I do see strong sexual attraction between Trin and Tanwa…..and honestly that's it. I also hope to see more Tanwa and his father’s relationship? Like what does his father do? ( edit: I went back to the episode and it looks like his father might be the city mayor? Or something high powerCorrect me if I'm wrong) how does his father effect the whole story? Etc maybe next episode

yes, “adventures and fun” so it sounds like friends with benefits? Maybe they will fall in love in the long run. I just feel like the ending kiss seems…like it was just there, not a lot of substance. Tanwa talking about his past and than how he lives day by day. Trin kissed him because he like how Tanwa is so free spirited? It just kinda sucked because Tanwa’s character just isn't as complete comparing to the second couple. Maybe next episode this could have completed change! Yes I was hoping for Trin and Victor to kiss!!

maybe its just me, but realistically I don't see how Trin’s character would fall in love with Tanwa. They don't have a lot in common, hobbies, goals, similar values, or even world views? Tanwa is too.…empty headed? Maybe its just the way this character build up as of now, later it might change and put him in a different light due to his father’s affluence.

In contrast, Trin and Victor seem more on the same page and they have a lot in common. I see more chemistry in them than Tanwa and Trin? Idk why I wanted to see more of Trin and Victor.

this. I had to stop at episode 10…what were the writers thinking?

I see your point, but let's gender reversed this. If it was an actress that has his nose, do you think she would even see the light of the day on the screen? Her agency would be on her a** making sure that nose is done before she even gets to any project. And even if she kept her real nose, on the screen can you believe the scrutiny she would have received? actually it would be impossible for her to be on screen, there's no female main role actresses that would see the light of day with a "unique" nose.

"superficial" huh? this is a BL ROMANCE drama. As in yes, looks 100% of times matters, just like any romance dramas from every country, same with boy-girl romance dramas. He's a handsome man, but I don't see how viewers are in the wrong for pointing that part out.

true, if he was an idol that nose will for sure be altered before he even get signed. But I think Taiwan might be more accepting, if he branches out as just an actor I think they probably would see it as unique and make the character more memorable.