Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
I find it funny that you said "in this case" Which is the point I've been trying to make. I did not generalise what I said I was talking about a singular moment which was between pued and Jane. when she stated that she did this for him. The things about emotional abuse and all that was not spoken about. in previous comments I stated that she had a choice and I'm not gonna feel sorry for The Choice that she made. I believe she stayed that long so she can Gather evidence to expose them. Which was also her choice because she had the opportunity to leave. the psychological damage that she faced while still being in there I don't know I can only speculate.
Eh...your logic’s a bit concerning lol. It’s called mental and emotional manipulation, and adults can fall…
HAHA that's funny A person's reaction to a medication is not singular and it's not the same for every single person there may be commonalities but that's not the case for everyone but live your best life with what you believe
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
Welll I doubt that you do too because of your narrow might assumptions that everyone Who has been in a relationship with emotionally mistreated has automatically been assigned as abuse. not every case is one dimensional and sad if you went through that but If you believe Jane was then that's your own Narrative I'm not gonna refute your personal Ideals
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
The fact that you have some in your family does not really means nothing because so do I and you keep saying opinion which is true it's an opinion it's not fact. And I don't think I know more than doctors because I stated from a opinion perspective not a factual one so if you see this arrogance certainly that's your personal hang up.
Eh...your logic’s a bit concerning lol. It’s called mental and emotional manipulation, and adults can fall…
"Different chemical reactions occur in the brain that are linked to our emotions" Not everyone feels the same way not everyone reacts to emotional triggers the same way. That's why as you stated a "doctor's medical opinion" not medical fact because if it was fact it would work for everyone. Why do you think a doctor can recommend a medication and even though you show all the signs of needing it but it doesn't work for you. And that's why with the law and I can only speak for where I live not for Thailand, when they bring a doctor to speak at a trail their speaking from their medical opinion.
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
I never said that he emotionally and mentally abused or coerced her in it, your saying that. I responded to the quote that you pulled from the show because you felt that I had a disconnect and my opinion was perceived as fact when it was not. And my whole point behind this was never that She was not taken advantage of by him or others that were running that ring. My point still stands that from the depiction that they showed she had choice. Whether or not you believe it was emotional or mental abuse or whatever is your own opinion and I have mine so to each its own.
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
Never was trying to twist the meaning that's why i said my take on it and She is right he took advantage of her by using her for his own personal gain. But then again Those men and her sister are the real perpetrators That actually took advantage of her So It's everyone. but like I said to each its own.
Eh...your logic’s a bit concerning lol. It’s called mental and emotional manipulation, and adults can fall…
I guess it would be illogical to take the word of somebody who's actually been in that type of situation and has 1st hand knowledge over somebody who just studies it but like I said to each its own.
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
I never said that that was what she said. I said MY take on it was that I felt that she said that because it wasn't him who's personally doing it to her it was those men, he put her in that situation which she agreed to but Everything after that was those men. And that's an irrefutable fact.
Actually because you don't know me I will let you know that I have been in a relationship with emotionally manipulative person there was no narcissism on their end but the emotional manipulation was definitely there. That's why I can strongly say that emotional manipulation Does not only come in the form of abuse there are many different forms but people tend to only go towards abuse because that's all they know. Also emotional manipulation doesn't mean that your not giving The Choice. Jane became depressed after she had an abortion. I would personally think that this experience is what made her want to expose them more I wouldn't believe that this would impair anything for her. Also you said sociopath so can you please explain how he displayed that I'm curious to know your take on that.
Eh...your logic’s a bit concerning lol. It’s called mental and emotional manipulation, and adults can fall…
No that's a one sided perspective that it's abuse because it is also a form of blackmail which is not abuse but if I know concerns you so much I don't know what to tell you
I haven't finished the episode yet to fully have an opinion, but we don't know the power dynamics/imbalances of…
You used coarse, manipulated and Abused But I like that you used it's possible. it's not fact and we don't know if he actually killed her. It was Jane's sister that was telling them this story about what happened and we don't know it's true because we later find out that she is a part of it so until I have concrete evidence that yes he was the one that actually killed her it's just speculation.
Eh...your logic’s a bit concerning lol. It’s called mental and emotional manipulation, and adults can fall…
My logics not concerning at all and as you stated its mental and emotional manipulation not abuse and Jane was very much well aware the situation to start collecting evidence to take these people down. And yes adults and teenagers are susceptible but (us- can't speak for thailand) statistics show teenagers are more susceptible because of the lack of knowledge and your bringing in physical abuse like I stated any of that. Why would I think that it's easy for women in an abusive relationship to leave? From what we've been shown Jane wasn't physically abused in their relationship soooo uour point?
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
Mmmm That's where the disconnect is because I saw it as her feeling taken advantage of by those men and him saying I ever took advantage of you like that you willingly chose to do this whether I asked you to do it or not it was your choice. But if you think pued is the main perpetrator and he is 100% at fault and that she is just a helpless victim that had no say in anything and she was forced to do this then to each its own because that's what you gonna think. Until I'm shown otherwise my statement still stands
I am familiar with cases of sexual harassment and very familiar psychology and coerce is not the word I would use because from what we have been SHOWN he did not Forcibly persuade her Or use violence to make her sleep with those men. The only time he used violence that we have seen is when she was going to expose what they were doing. every other dialogue that we have been shown has been him begging yes that is a form of persuasion but you can not call that coercion.
Also yes he was emotionally using her for his own benefit But not everthing is one sided. Also, stating that she didn't know they were going to do any of that. you don't know that, she could have fully well known what they were going to do but as you stated did it because she loved him. Saying she feels taken advantage of because she didn't know it would get that deep we don't know that until we see another perspective or another episode This is her sister's depiction of what happened And because she is a part of this situation there is a lack of trust in what she saying. I am saying is on face value of what jane Apparently said. Every other comment I've seen about this is painting Jane as this feeble minded scared individual that was being used and had no other way out. If you are so in love with an individual that you will willingly agree to put yourself in that situation whether or not she new the extent of it that is your own fault. Maybe he wasn't like this in the beginning and he showed his true colours when he knew she was already in love with him but the point still stands. Maybe others are viewing my opinion as insensitive because their too sensitive.
Being an educated adult doesn't mean she can't also be abused or manipulated. Just because he didn't hold a gun…
Never said she wasn't abused or manipulated. from the last episode were pued said He didn't take advantage of her because she chose to do this and she agreed by saying yes she chose to do this but she did it for him. Also I never said anything about her not being a victim my whole point was she willingly chose to be put in that situation and the facts the remains that it is the truth as it is presented on the show until I am shown otherwise. I am looking at surface facts, The facts that the character themselves have said. Also I added other comments that states that my comment is dependent on if it is the truth because this is just a retelling of what happened and it might not be fact. I am just treating it like that because that is all I have been shown until otherwise.
I think that I know what you are trying to say. Unlike the children who were kidnapped, raped, abused and are…
Yeah I started thinking to same thing but one thing about the show is that every time I have a theory it just goes completely out the window so I literally just have to wait till the last episode
in previous comments I stated that she had a choice and I'm not gonna feel sorry for The Choice that she made. I believe she stayed that long so she can Gather evidence to expose them. Which was also her choice because she had the opportunity to leave. the psychological damage that she faced while still being in there I don't know I can only speculate.
Also yes he was emotionally using her for his own benefit But not everthing is one sided. Also, stating that she didn't know they were going to do any of that. you don't know that, she could have fully well known what they were going to do but as you stated did it because she loved him. Saying she feels taken advantage of because she didn't know it would get that deep we don't know that until we see another perspective or another episode This is her sister's depiction of what happened And because she is a part of this situation there is a lack of trust in what she saying. I am saying is on face value of what jane Apparently said. Every other comment I've seen about this is painting Jane as this feeble minded scared individual that was being used and had no other way out. If you are so in love with an individual that you will willingly agree to put yourself in that situation whether or not she new the extent of it that is your own fault. Maybe he wasn't like this in the beginning and he showed his true colours when he knew she was already in love with him but the point still stands. Maybe others are viewing my opinion as insensitive because their too sensitive.