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Replying to RuxiTS Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Wow, another media joke. They take old news from April and May and present them as being new in June. Convenient…
I want to clarify some aspects and answer you as best I can:
1. The precautionary seizures requested by Cuckoo Electronics and other parties are relatively small and are likely based on explicit contractual provisions, which can serve as a legal basis for such measures. In contrast, a separate lawsuit has been filed for the remaining claims, indicating that those sums are not directly stipulated in the contracts but may arise from contractual breaches or related liabilities.
2. The damages requested in court have not been approved at this stage. As mentioned earlier, it remains to be seen whether the court will uphold them. Such compensation is only granted if the plaintiff proves the existence of actual losses—through verifiable data—and establishes a direct causal link between those losses and the conduct of Kim Soo Hyun.
3. Kim Soo Hyun, through his agency Gold Medalist, has filed a lawsuit seeking approximately ₩11 billion KRW (about $8.25 million USD) in damages against Garosero & Company and Kim Sae Ron’s family. However, this amount is not final—the claim can be supplemented and increased throughout the course of the trial, up until a final decision is issued. Like any plaintiff, he must substantiate the damages claimed and demonstrate that they resulted directly from the actions of the defendants.
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Replying to My Way Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
How, and doesn't Kim Soo Hyun go bankrupt overnight, as KSR "fans" expect?? Should I understand that he still…
The refusal to make payment forms part of the defense strategy and is not due to a lack of financial resources. On one hand, this category of compensation is subject to judicial scrutiny and is frequently reduced or dismissed if not supported by clear and convincing evidence. On the other hand, such a claim may be rejected entirely in the absence of a criminal conviction against Kim Soo-Hyun.
To illustrate the legal principle in simple but relevant terms: imagine someone presents a loan agreement from a bank that appears to bear your signature. In reality, the signature is forged. The loan was indeed granted by the bank and the funds were disbursed—but not to you. The bank, however, is convinced that you are the debtor and demands repayment. Knowing that the signature is not yours and that you never received the loan, you refuse to pay and simultaneously take steps to prove the forgery.
This analogy mirrors the current legal situation: while a real loss may have occurred, the key question is who bears responsibility. A party asserts a claim based on an unproven allegation, while the respondent, firmly denying liability, refuses payment and seeks to establish the lack of legal grounds for the claim.

Let’s continue to apply critical thinking in our discussions. Many thanks, Autumn Leaf, for your valuable tip — much appreciated!
Ruxy, your message clearly reflects an understanding of what critical thinking truly means. Can we count on your approval to proceed in this direction?
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Replying to Aveira Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
I hope they win.Rice cooker brand 'Cuckoo' sues Kim Soohyun for 2.8 billion won in damageshttps://x.com/pannchoa/status/1933527787396096008
Thanks for the newsflash — but it’s already been thoroughly analyzed below, with a healthy dose of critical thinking and a firm grounding in the legal provisions on contractual damages. But I get it — in the rush to post first, who has time to read?
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Replying to AutumnLeaf Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
'Just saw this on twitter and remembered this discussion."...But never in my life I will choose to support a celebrity…
To Clarify the Request and Frame the Context Logically and Professionally
In order to properly address your request, it is essential to apply critical thinking and to frame this conversation accurately in terms of space (platform) and time (circumstantial context). This ensures an objective and well-informed approach.
1. Spatial Context – Where the Discussion Is Taking Place:
• The messages are being posted on kisskh, specifically on a page dedicated to actor Kim Soo Hyun.
2. Temporal Context – When the Discussion Is Taking Place:
• These messages appear after the public accusation suggesting that actor Kim Soo Hyun (KSH) had a relationship with the late actress KSR during her minority. The timing is crucial for understanding the emotional tone and biases present in discussions.
3. Summary of the Parties' Positions:
a) Accusatory Perspective:
• As KSR is deceased, she cannot express her position directly.
• However, Garosero (a media source), the so-called aunt (her actual familial status remains unclear), and KSR’s mother have spoken on her behalf.
• Their allegation is that Kim Soo Hyun was in a relationship with KSR when she was a minor and that this, along with the Gold Medalist agency’s (allegedly tied to KSH) request to repay a loan, contributed to her tragic decision.
b) Kim Soo Hyun’s Response:
• KSH has denied the accusations, stating that the relationship took place in 2019, after KSR had reached the legal age of majority.
• He further clarified that the loan repayment request was a standard contractual matter, and no legal enforcement (foreclosure or litigation) was initiated against her.
With this context established, we can now address the key phrase from your original message:
_“Don’t bother commenting if you’re among the following that I don’t want to waste my time on:
• no critical thinking ability
• starstruck idol-worshipper
• troll, paid or not”_
I. Critical Thinking
“Critical thinking is the process of analyzing available facts, evidence, observations, and arguments to form a judgment.”
— Source: Wikipedia
Indeed, this standard is essential. Participation in a meaningful discussion requires the willingness to examine facts and perspectives objectively. Individuals who comment without this process do not contribute constructively to dialogue.
Thus, if someone is unwilling or unable to consider verifiable information, their contributions are not conducive to understanding or truth-seeking.
II. Starstruck Idol-Worshipper
This phrase seems to function as a rhetorical emphasis, though it borders on redundancy. Nonetheless, the meaning is clear:
• Starstruck: Overwhelmed or excessively impressed by celebrities.
Oxford Dictionary
• Idol-worshipper (figuratively): Excessive reverence or admiration for a public figure.
Oxford Dictionary
Considering the platform (a fan page dedicated to Kim Soo Hyun), a legitimate question arises: Whom, exactly, is this warning targeting? 🤔Given that this platform is a fan page dedicated to Kim Soo Hyun, it is evident that the warning is directed at fans of other celebrities who, driven by rivalry or bias, seek to defame or discredit him—not at Kim Soo Hyun’s genuine supporters.
III. Trolls
• A troll is someone who intentionally posts provocative or disruptive content to incite emotional reactions.
Dictionary.com
Given the sensitivity of the situation and the emotional involvement of many users, trolls are particularly harmful in such discussions. On a page dedicated to KSH, trolling likely originates from individuals who aim to damage his image or provoke his supporters.
Conclusion:
Your message functions as a necessary filter, drawing clear boundaries for meaningful dialogue. In the context of a highly sensitive and emotionally charged topic, posted on a fan page dedicated to Kim Soo Hyun, it is both justified and appropriate to exclude those unwilling to engage with facts, driven by blind admiration for other celebrities, or intent on provoking conflict. This approach is not only a defense of rational discussion but also a stand against misinformation, manipulation, and hostility. Constructive conversation demands intellectual honesty, and your message rightly calls for that standard.
Thanks for the reminder — I give you a big like! 👍
Let’s keep thinking critically and sharing facts.
Even in adversity, clarity may shine through—just as the colors of an autumn leaf glow brightest on sunny days.
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On Kim Soo Hyun Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
I appreciate it when verified and factual information is shared. However, since a request was made for responses to remain within the bounds of critical legal analysis, I will respectfully adhere to that approach—which is, in fact, constructive and beneficial to all parties involved.
It is important to distinguish between two distinct categories of damages that may arise from the termination of a contract:
1. Contractually Agreed (Liquidated) Damages – These are typically pre-determined sums stipulated in the contract, payable in the event of termination attributable to a party’s fault or unilateral withdrawal.
2. Consequential Damages (Loss of Potential Profit) – These refer to losses suffered, such as missed opportunities or unrealized income, and are generally subject to a higher threshold of proof.
Under South Korean law, a clear distinction exists between penalties and liquidated damages. Liquidated damages are contractual and intended to compensate for a specific breach. However, courts retain the discretion to reduce these amounts if deemed excessive or disproportionate.
Any party seeking compensation for damages resulting from contract termination must substantiate both (a) the existence and extent of the damages and (b) the fault of Kim Soo-Hyun that directly caused the termination.
If the available information is accurate, Cuckoo Electronics was among the first entities to unilaterally terminate its contract with Kim Soo-Hyun. Accordingly, any recoverable damages must be confined to the period preceding the termination—estimated at approximately 20 days from the date of the public allegations made by Garosero and the family of the late actress Kim Sae-Ron.
Post-termination, further compensation may only be claimed upon clear evidence of additional losses—such as failure to secure a replacement ambassador for advertising campaigns.
Conversely, Kim Soo-Hyun may have grounds to seek damages from companies that terminated their contracts prematurely if the allegations against him remain unproven and no conviction has been issued by a competent court. The only exception would be the existence of a contractual clause permitting termination upon mere suspicion, which must be expressly stipulated.
If the claimed compensation amounts had been both contractually stipulated and demonstrably due, an insurance-based provisional seizure could have been lawfully obtained. The absence of such seizure suggests that the court has not yet validated the requested amounts, and that these claims remain subject to judicial scrutiny.
Kim Soo-Hyun’s refusal to pay appears to be based on a firm belief in his innocence and the strength of his legal case against Garosero and associated parties. As such, his refusal has triggered multiple lawsuits that will undergo individual judicial examination, just as his own claims against Garosero & Co. will be.
Strategically, he may request the suspension of proceedings in damage-related claims initiated by companies until a final judgment is rendered in his case against Garosero & Co. Alternatively, he may allow these claims to proceed to judgment and, if successful in his primary action, recover his own losses through enforcement proceedings or oblique actions—as previously discussed.
While these lawsuits may not represent a substantive legal threat if the damages are unproven or not attributable to him, they do create reputational strain and financial costs. If Kim Soo-Hyun ultimately prevails, he is entitled to recover such costs from those whose wrongful conduct caused them.
Conclusion: The decision of Kim Soo-Hyun and his management (GM) to litigate to the fullest extent signals either strong confidence in their position or strategic miscalculation. Given their insistence on formal evidentiary review, the balance of probabilities leans toward the former.
Thank you for the consistent updates and for encouraging analytical, critical engagement with the facts.

Even in adversity, clarity can emerge—much like the vibrant colors of an autumn leaf that shine most brilliantly on sunny days.🍂🌞
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Replying to AutumnLeaf Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
'Just saw this on twitter and remembered this discussion."...But never in my life I will choose to support a celebrity…
EDIT: Thank you for your request. Please note that the edits to your messages were made after the responses had already been posted. To avoid an overly lengthy reply, I’ve addressed the matter below with a focused and critical analysis.


This is exactly why I’ve always spoken out against public shaming and the cruelty of social “executions.” What happened to Kim Sae Ron is not just a scandal — it’s a tragedy born from silence, judgment, and the failure of compassion. She was so young, with every reason to be building a future filled with joy and discovery. Instead, she was picked apart, mistake by mistake, under a spotlight that never showed her humanity — only her flaws.
When she needed support, there was none. When she stumbled, the world pointed fingers instead of offering a hand. Yes, some criticisms may have had merit — but who among us is without fault? She faced a storm of accusations, isolation, and betrayal, and still, she had to stand alone. Too many voices condemned her. Too few asked if she was okay.
Her move to the U.S. could have been a breath of fresh air, a quiet place to heal. But healing is impossible when the wounds are still being reopened by judgment and cruelty. Now, we’re left asking ourselves why — and what more could have been done.
No one should ever be driven so far into despair, so completely abandoned in their pain. We must remember: accountability should never cost someone their will to live. Let this be a reminder that behind every headline is a human being — one who needs grace, not a grave made of words.
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Replying to My Way Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
This time, things will be different and will never be the same again. You will be the first of many who dares…
I'm really glad when someone doesn't let themselves be brought down by public opinion manipulated by rude people.
The fact that he filed an official request for legal verification of the evidence shows his determination to find the truth.
Garosero could have done the same thing when he was accused of tampering with evidence. Let's see the result.
https://www.mk.co.kr/en/hot-issues/11341902
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On Kim Soo Hyun Jun 13, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
I think Ch*msky is accidentally practicing her lines from her own drama on the wrong scene. Can someone tell her that this isn't the page for Hide and Sick? No, it's not a grammatical error...👇
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Replying to Sunny Day Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
They call themselves seekers of justice, but I can't help but wonder: what kind of justice is it when public opinion…
I actually honored My Way's request—just so things wouldn’t get boring.
Hey, My Way, where’d you go? Was it educational enough?
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Replying to Sunny Day Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Exactly — it’s like watching an experimental solo sketch where the performer blocks the audience, forgets…
She’s clearly auditioning for Hide and Seek — only problem is, Robert De Niro’s missing, Son Hyun-joo’s nowhere to be found, Dakota Fanning disappeared, and Moon Jeong-hee didn’t even show up. Wait a minute… maybe this isn’t Hide and Seek at all. Looks more like The Invisible (Wo)Man — the DYI version.
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Replying to Renata MJ Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Don't worry this is something normal after such a scandal but when he wins his case, he will pay them with KSR…
Not just KSR's family, who I don't think understood what they got themselves into from the start anyway. Those who encouraged them and made such a fuss must answer in solidarity.

As for those preaching about karma — it's always amusing how the most enlightened voices come from behind a block button. Divine wisdom truly works in mysterious (and one-sided) ways.👇
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Replying to Sunny Day Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
They call themselves seekers of justice, but I can't help but wonder: what kind of justice is it when public opinion…
I couldn’t give a short answer because it involves many important terms and details. So I’ll need to break it down into parts.

Yes, it can be embarrassing to support a celebrity simply because you like them — just as it is equally embarrassing, and dangerous, to declare someone guilty before any evidence has been presented, examined, and verified. I do not support blind loyalty to public figures. However, I am even more strongly opposed to the manipulation of public opinion to condemn individuals without the benefit of a fair and just trial. This practice violates fundamental human rights and has caused significant harm throughout history.
A healthy society is sustained by laws — but only when those laws are just. In a truly free and democratic state, unjust laws can be challenged and declared unconstitutional. There are always remedies, though they often require patience and persistence.
We must strive to live in a peaceful and harmonious society. Otherwise, we risk descending into chaos, no different from a lawless jungle.
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Replying to Renata MJ Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
His popularity is not fading, he still has number 1 Korean actor in popular votes, just recently and this is (115th…
I really like people who are not manipulated by the media. Until he is proven guilty it is not fair to discredit him. Chapeau 🎩
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Replying to RuxiTS Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Who is "Professor" Chomsky ? EDIT : I just found out, sry.Anyway, today appeared the official statements of KSH's…
It’s painfully obvious that this news was dropped just to cover up other real, actually important stuff (hello, Garosero appeal rejections and friends 👀). Honestly, I love how sometimes reality feels like it's just borrowing plots from movies and dramas.
Take Mr. Robot, for example —Season 2 is practically a playbook for this move. Angela and E Corp are out there releasing real, but dusty-old news like it’s breaking, all just to keep the spotlight off their fresh sins.
It’s a perfect case of:
“Look over here at this scandal from 5 years ago, while we quietly burn down the house today.”
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Replying to Sunny Day Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
They call themselves seekers of justice, but I can't help but wonder: what kind of justice is it when public opinion…
If the courts were truly corrupt, we would be living in a state of chaos. The only point on which I might agree is that the justice system can sometimes move slowly, whether due to external influences or simply because of the volume and complexity of the cases it must address. However, I firmly believe in the integrity and resilience of the judicial system. Precisely because it maintains its independence, it continues to be the target of criticism and pressure.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/20250424/nearly-half-of-judges-say-they-have-faced-external-pressure-during-trials
Even so, we have clearly seen that no one is above the law. Several former presidents of South Korea—Park Geun-hye, Lee Myung-bak, Roh Tae-woo, and Chun Doo-hwan—have been prosecuted and convicted. Former President Yoon Suk-yeol is currently on trial for insurrection, and the sitting president is also facing legal proceedings. The principle of accountability before the law continues to be upheld, regardless of rank or position.
I have, at times, questioned the connections and backing that Garosero may have benefited from (perhaps still does) but I remain confident that, regardless of any lobbying efforts, justice does not recognize hierarchies.
( What’s really behind the Garosero buzz? Corruption, influence, or something deeper?
https://www.logosian.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=3019 )
Temporary influences may exist, but once domestic remedies are exhausted, international courts remain available. The truth will emerge—whatever it may be.
It’s true that delays can sometimes lead to the statute of limitations expiring, but this generally applies to criminal matters. In civil cases involving damages, if a claim has been filed, this action interrupts the limitation period for exercising the substantive right.
Therefore, even if a criminal offense becomes time-barred, the right to seek compensation remains. The perpetrator may not face imprisonment, but they can still be held financially accountable for the harm caused.
Appealing to public opinion for justice is dangerous—unlike judges, the public can't be held accountable for the harm it may cause. This is exactly why justice must remain independent.
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Replying to trshanl14 Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
The haters are slowly making themselves scarce from multiple platform all at once showing that they themselves…
They call themselves seekers of justice, but I can't help but wonder: what kind of justice is it when public opinion seems to matter more than actual evidence or court decisions?
Anyone who truly wants justice for KSR knows that speculation only clouds the truth. Real justice means identifying and punishing the actual culprits, not rushing to condemn without proof.
It’s a deeply sad situation to see people take pleasure in someone else’s downfall in the name of justice, while those truly responsible remain untouched.
Maybe we should all take a moment and watch Stranger (Secret Forest) – Season 2. There, justice is painfully slow, the powerful escape for far too long, but at least in the end, the truth prevails where it matters most: in the court of law, not the court of opinion.
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Replying to Rebel Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Heard KSH’s 🐍 apartment got seized cause he couldn’t pay the penalty fees.Ig karma hits you even if the…
In fact, he refused to make the payment, as confirmed by his legal representatives.

Under Korean law, a creditor may, under certain conditions, pursue the debtor’s own debtors through a legal mechanism known as oblique action (also referred to as indirect action). This allows the creditor to seek satisfaction of their claim indirectly, by targeting assets held by third parties who owe obligations to the original debtor.

The process is relatively straightforward: the debtor refuses to pay, prompting the initiation of a seizure. Simultaneously, Kim Soo Hyun institutes a seizure of Garosero’s assets. This creates a chain of enforcement. If Kim Soo Hyun lacks the funds to satisfy the debt, the creditor (in this case Classys) may seek recovery directly from Garosero’s accounts.

It is important to note that such a seizure serves only to freeze assets and prevent their dissipation, thereby securing potential compensation. It is a precautionary measure rather than an act of forced execution.

Should it ultimately be determined that Kim Soo Hyun’s position is justified, liability for damages will rest with those who contributed to the situation. Conversely, if the evidence submitted by Garosero is found to be authentic, Kim Soo Hyun would be responsible for any resulting damages. However, considering that much of the evidence presented by Garosero has already been discredited, what are the real chances of this latter scenario prevailing?
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On Kim Soo Hyun Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Too many messages based on a single news item, so an analysis is welcome.
In Korean contract practice, it is common for parties to include two types of clauses aimed at discouraging breaches: liquidated damages and punitive penalties.
• Liquidated damages (손해배상액의 예정) refer to amounts agreed upon in advance by the contracting parties, intended to compensate the non-breaching party for losses resulting from a contractual breach. These are enforceable under Article 398 of the Korean Civil Act, provided they are not excessively disproportionate to the actual damage.
• Punitive penalties, by contrast, are amounts imposed not strictly to compensate, but to penalize a party for failing to perform, and to deter non-performance. That said, this distinction becomes especially relevant in high-profile cases such as the dispute involving Kim Soo Hyun and Garosero Research Institute (Kim Se-eui).
Although recent media coverage may give the impression of a new development, this is, in fact, a familiar legal scenario. The contracts included standard penalty clauses, and the court approved asset seizure on May 20—a move that reflects the contractual enforcement of those clauses. However, this only became widely reported after the seizure of Kim Se-eui’s assets and accounts became public.
From a legal standpoint, the situation is relatively straightforward:
• Kim Soo Hyun had pre-established contractual penalties protecting both parts in the event of breach;
• Garosero, by contrast, now faces potential tort liability for defamation—specifically, the spread of false information that allegedly damaged Kim Soo Hyun's public image and commercial value.
This damage could not only justify the termination of certain contracts involving Kim Soo Hyun, but also trigger additional claims under tort law (Civil Act Article 750).
So far, Garosero has failed to present any conclusive evidence supporting their claims. The court proceedings are ongoing, and the longer the reputational harm and commercial impact persist for Kim Soo Hyun, the greater the potential financial liability for those who instigated the issue.
This case is a textbook example of how contractual remedies and tortious liability operate in tandem in Korean civil law—and a reminder that reputational damage can carry heavy legal and financial consequences.
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Replying to RuxiTS Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
It seems there is a complete different world behind the scenes, populated with stand-ups. This chomsky user even…
Exactly — it’s like watching an experimental solo sketch where the performer blocks the audience, forgets who she blocked, then still delivers dramatic monologues to empty chairs. It’s not even stand-up... it’s more like a blackout performance with no stage lights and no exit. If I wanted to see someone play every role in their own echo chamber, I’d rather stick to Jung Seung Min — at least her characters know they’re fictional.
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On Kim Soo Hyun Jun 12, 2025
Person Kim Soo Hyun
Wow, thanks for the population stats, “Professor” Chomsky. Next time, maybe compare BTS’s popularity to Earth’s oxygen supply while you’re at it.
And of course, thanks for the breaking news about Kim Soo Hyun’s luxury apartment being seized by Classys. Truly terrifying — one out of three apartments in Galleria Foret got a lien. We’ve already discussed this for hours, but sadly, you must’ve missed it.
I do appreciate your concern, though. As I said before, the bill will be paid by whoever threw this little “party” — Garosero, the “devoted aunt,” and the rest of the circus. Meanwhile, Kim Soo Hyun’s drama is airing in Brazil and Taiwan, and if you’re still panicking, feel free to scroll back and read how much he earns globally: it’s not pocket change.
It doesn’t matter that Kim Soo Hyun is still topping real-time polls and starring in international hits — no, the ‘backlash’ is definitely coming. Any day now. We’ll wait with popcorn.
Here’s a brilliant suggestion: go watch Love Your Enemy. At least that drama knows it’s being ridiculous — unlike some people here. Honestly, it’s become a must-watch… mostly for the accidental comedy.
And if you're still craving justice fantasies, add Killing Vote to your list. You might finally get the vigilante ending you keep projecting onto real life.
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