After reading the messages between Mr. K and KSR, I began to better understand the context and the situation she…
Mr.K – KSR messages July 23, 2024 (Tuesday) Mr.K: Did you get home safely, daughter? Since tomorrow is your day off, take a good rest and recover your strength~~ Seeing you today, you looked healthier than before, so I feel a bit relieved~^^ Everyone is doing their best, so hang in there a bit more. Don't lose your standards. Let's recover quickly^^♡♡ KSR: Yes, fighting! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
July 31, 2024 (Wednesday) Mr.K Saerona~ Happy birthday^^ I should have contacted you in the morning, but I was out of it and only contacting you now Do everything you want to do today and have a great time KSR: Hehe, thank you, Dad❤️😆 "⚠️ This user cannot be contacted."
**** KSR “Yes, Father.” “It’s funny.” (9:35 PM) Mr.K. “You must’ve felt good being able to smile after so long Have a good time with your friend~ Wear something warm when you go out!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my goodness” (9:37 PM) KSR (KSR picture) “Yes!” (11:28 PM) "⚠️ This user cannot be contacted."
*** KSR (Sends a picture) 9:57 PM Mr.K: “You’re just doing cute poses, huh ♡♡♡♡♡” 9:58 PM “My worries are over!!” 9:58 PM KSR: “❤️❤️” 9:58 PM Mr.K: “Have a great time~~ Don’t think about useless stuff~~ Promise me with dad!!!” 10:00 PM KSR: “Yes… 😢” 10:00 PM Mr.K: “Don’t even send crying emojis ♡♡” 10:01 PM KSR: “Okay!!! ❤️” 10:01 PM ⚠️ “This user cannot be contacted.”
**** KSR: ( blurred selfie) "Service shot" (i.e., "A special photo just for you") 1:30 PM 📅 Sunday, October 20, 2024 (Two PDF files sent) • “Guitar Man Sessions 4~5 Draft A 10.20.pdf” Valid until ~2024.11.3 Size: 95.76 KB • “Guitar Man Sessions 4~5 Draft B 10.20.pdf” Valid until ~2024.11.3 ⚠️ "This user cannot be contacted."
**** 3:55 PM Mr. K Saerona, I’ve never recommended a project that I thought was morally inappropriate or unsuitable for my student. I wasn’t comfortable with you, who is an actor, working at a café, and I wanted you to lower your standards a bit, find a point of compromise, and return to acting as soon as possible. KSR 3:56 PM Yes, I understand. But my standards are high, so it's not like I reject projects because they don’t meet 100% completion, nor do I choose projects thinking they must be perfect. KSR 3:57 PM I think it's true that I don't have the confidence to act well if I'm morally uncomfortable or if it doesn't sit right with me. Mr.K 3:57 PM Okay, I understand. KSR 3:57 PM Thank you always. I'm really grateful. ㅎㅎ ⚠️ Cannot communicate with this user.
*** Mr.K 0:06 AM Are you going to Bucheon starting today? KSR 10:07 AM Yes. Mr.K 10:13 AM ㅠㅠ Be careful today too~~ Let’s talk later♡♡
KSR 10:24 AM Sir, by any chance, Shinhan Bank 140-xxxx-xxxxxx Can you deposit ₩xxx,000 under the name "Jeilum"? I’ll pay you back next weekㅠ The food processor at home got seized and is about to be auctioned off. They told me to settle the overdue fees…ㅠ Mr.K 10:35 AM I’ll send it after I finish driving. KSR 10:35 AM Thank you!! ㅠㅠ
**** Mr. K: I sent KSR: Thanks! I’ll return next week!!! Mr.K: But it's sent to my name. What do we do? Shouldn't you call them sometime? KSR: Yes. Give me the bank account, please. I'll send it now. Mr.K: You write~(meaning you take care of it) KSR: the amount is too high *** KSR: Thank you...I'll be back soon to buy my dad something to drink. (onomatopoeia- sound of crying) Mr.K: Instead, we eat together, right? KSR: Yes!!!! (KSR selfie)
*** June 15, 2024, 3:42 PM, synergy: How's the academy going? June 15, 2024, 3:42 PM, KSR: At this point, I have to just go around and clean up everything ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ June 15, 2024, 3:43 PM, synergy: You’ve been through a lot ㅠㅠㅠ June 15, 2024, 3:43 PM: So how are you managing life these days? June 15, 2024, 3:51 PM, KSR: Right now... I’m in a hopeless situation.... June 15, 2024, 6:30 PM, synergy: I figured ㅠㅠㅠㅠ June 15, 2024, 6:44 PM, KSR: Yeah... my company suddenly stopped giving me assignments, so I have to work hard and look for something else now. June 15, 2024, 6:48 PM, synergy: Yeah~ But the rent is so expensive. It wasn’t a big deal when income was good though. June 15, 2024, 6:49 PM, (KSR): It's really hard to find a cheap place to rent in Seoul ㅠㅠ
*** KSR: Are you at the company? I want to eat a sandwich Mr.K. Yes. I’ll buy it and let it in the office. KSR: Yay! I’m on my way to the company (picture, probably from bus)
*** 10:53 in the morning, Manager/director: How about leaving from your house at 12:30? 10:53 in the morning, Kim Sae Ron: Yes! 10:53 in the morning, Manager/director : Ok^^ 10:53 in the morning, Manager/director : Have you eaten? 10:53 in the morning, KSR: Photo 10:53 in the morning, KSR : We're going here. No, I haven't gotten up yet. 10:54 in the morning, Manager/director : Do you have something simple/light to eat? Should I buy you something? 11:07 in the morning, KSR: Yes, something simple/light. 11:07 in the morning, Manager/director: Ok ^^ 11:10 in the morning, KSR: emoji 12:26 afternoon, Manager/director : I have arrived ~^^ 12:38 afternoon, Manager/director : I sent you 100,000won. You can cancel the transfer on the transaction details screen until the recipient receives the payment. 12:39 afternoon, KSR: 농협3 = major bank and agricultural cooperative. 12:40 afternoon, Manager/director : Cancellation of the 100,000 won transfer is complete.
*** 2024.1.18 Mr.K.Ș You’re awake, right? KSR: yes. When you come, I have a favour to ask… Can you please bring me a mixed iced double (coffee) and some cartridges (emoji) Mr.K.: seems like we’re communicating through telepathy KSR: why? They are all out? Mr.K.: That’s what I thought I have arrived KSR: I will come down~
*** 2024.1.19 Mr.K.: Sae Ron~have you slept a little? When you wake up send me a message I will bring you the mixed iced double (coffee) KSR: Now I woke up Mr.K.: Have you eaten? Should I bring you a kimbap? KSR: Oh, yes please! Mr.K: Ok~~ Then I’ll arrive at around 2.30. KSR: (heart emoji)Yes Mr.K: I’ve arrived KSR: I’ll come down
2024.1.29 Mr.K: Sae Ron ~~ did you eat lunch? KSR: Not yet. I have been sleeping Mr.K: This answer make me feel half happy and half worried KSR: I just ate Sojaeji is the best… Mr.K: haha. One less thing to worry about KSR: I want to eat fresh cream cake.. Mr.K: hang on KSR: yay (emoji)
2024.2.11 KSR: please… Buy me one cartridge… Mr.K: (photo) Sae Ron, I left it in front of the front door~ KSR: Thank you ㅠㅠ
2024.2.8 KSR: (photo) I’m out of cigarettes…oh.. Mr.K: haha KSR: (photo)
2024.1.23 Mr.K: Sae Ron are you awake?? Because you have to take your medicines from now, don’t skip meals and try to eat all 3 meals. And the weather is fierce…Be careful not to catch a cold~~ KSR: It’s very cold You too, be careful not to catch a cold Mr.K: Did you take your medicines? KSR: yes. I’m cooking kimchi stew right now Mr.K: oho. Nice KSR: Oh, how can I go out on such a cold day I just want to stay at home
2024.1.22 Mr. K: ok KSR: Yes Mr.K: how many cigarettes do you have left? KSR: Are you busy? Mr.K: Are you saying I should come and pick you up/give you a ride? KSR: I’m looking forward to you coming to pick me up/give me a ride (Emoji)
*** Mr.K: Where are you? KSR: I’m selling ddeokbokki. Come and buy some. I want to go home. Mr.K: You are selling ddeokbokki?? KSR: Yes. At my café Pop-Up Event Mr.K: Give me the address of the café KSR: whoa Mr.K: how much time left?
*** 2024.2.1 KSR: Director, I had a psychiatric appointment today. Could you please postpone it at 2:40 and come with me? Mr.K: I’ve changed the reservation/appointment KSR: Yes
2024.2.13 Mr.K: Sae Ron, call me when you wake up! KSR: Wednesday at 4 o’clock and Friday at 6 o’clock Mr. K: ok, ok KSR: Just like this for this week Mr.K: Let’s try with the others first, and then we can work out the details later ~~come back safely^^ KSR: Yes Mr.K: You’re totally like Hong Gil Dong - (Hong Gil Dong is a Korean Robin Hood – type character, known for being everywhere and doing many things) KSR: emoji 😊) KSR: I have a hospital appointment on 15-th, 2:45. Psychiatry Do I have a lesson scheduled tomorrow? At 4?
2024.2.28 Mr.K: Sae Ron, would you be able to go to the ENT clinic by yourself today? ☹ I have a meeting at 5.30, so I’ll be on a tight schedule~~ KSR: Sure Mr.K: I’m sorry ☹ Mr.K: Are you on your way now? KSR: No, I saw the movie Mr. K: You saw it all? KSR: Yes. I was really sleepy, but it was interesting #search Dune Mr.K: Ha ha. Looks like you saw something interesting. KSR: Hehe Mr.K: I’ve already called the hospital, so you just get your treatment and come back. Give me a call when you’re done with your treatment. KSR: yes
*** Blurred image (Mr.K said that was from a suicide attempt, so it could have been from the hospital) and the text This user is not registered as a friend. Please be careful to avoid potential harm such as requests for money.
*** 2024.11.1 Mr.K: are you ok? KSR: yes, yes Mr.K: I was worried, you know~^^have deep rest and don’t be stressed~^^ KSR: yes Search hospital Mr.K: I will go now. Contact your mother too, Sae Ron KSR: No ☹ Something happened not long ago My parents should not know anymore (blurred name) will come Mr.K: I’ll arrive in about 20 minutes Let’s go ~^^ KSR: get ready
*** 2024.4.1 Mr.K: I’m at the office, so call me when you reach the first floor KSR: I will be there in 4 minutes Mr.K: ok You must be tired. Still you look good. Keep fighting today! You know you can call me if you’re having a hard time, right? Please tell your mother I’ll great her later, and ask her to take care, not to catch a cold during this change of seasons KSR: Mom said to let you know she would have greeted you too –if only she wasn’t in her pijamas. Fighting
2024.7.17 KSR: Director, while I was asleep my mom posted something on Instagram using my phone Take your medicine
2024.7.22 Mr.K: are you in a phone call? KSR: yes What would you like to eat? I have to go and eat Mr.K: You haven’t eaten yet? KSR: I haven’t
2024.8.7 KSR: My mom posted something on Instagram again Mr.K. I saw. Why is she doing this/being like this? KSR: I don’t know Mr.K: An article will come out again… If she continuing like this, the situation will only be getting worse, you know. Make sure to tell her firmly not to post again, and if that doesn’t work we’ll have to delete the account altogether KSR: yes Mr.K: What do you think? KSR: I agree
*** 2025.1.6 KSR: Do you have time to see me in Seoul? Mr.K: Sure. Don’t cry. Let’s meet and talk calmly KSR: yes Mr.K: I’m worried because you cry KSR: yes dad Please tell –(blurred name) that I worry a lot for good reasons, so even if she/he hates me, she/he shouldn’t go through much trouble … (we don’t know about whom she was talking about, and in Korean he or she depends on the context) Mr. K: Actually I’ve just talked to her/him KSR: What did she/he say? Mr. K: She/he was just a bit confuse. She/he was thinking maybe something happened to you and that’s why you’re acting this way. KSR: That’s right Something is happening I will come in Korea and tell you I love –(blurred name)—but I had no other choice but to break up. Mr.K: That’s why I’m hanging up now Call me as soon as you get to Korea
But after reading a series of articles posted on reporter Kang Kyung-yoon's blog recently, I became convinced.Kim…
After reading the messages between Mr. K and KSR, I began to better understand the context and the situation she was in. And no, it wasn’t an unrequited love that would lead to suicide, it was desperation in the face of an extreme situation. No one can blame her. Looking at the sequence of events, it’s clear that the posting of the photo with Kim Soo Hyun happened right when she was being summoned to repay her debt to GM. She tried to contact him, but couldn’t, so she resorted to any possible method to escape the pressure. She even told someone else that she was convinced KSH didn’t know about the legal action, which is why she was so desperate to reach him. And a crucial detail: she was under psychiatric treatment. That matters. Now let’s consider her legal situation. She had taken a loan from GM, a contract based on expected future revenue. But after the DUI incident, her projects were cancelled and her debts grew. Legally, she became an insolvent debtor. GM, whose business is not personal lending, had to justify that the money given wasn’t a disguised loan, otherwise it risked falling under fraud or tax evasion. Their summons was justified, especially since the professional relationship had ended, the repayment deadline had passed, and even the grace period was exhausted. As I mentioned before, personal bankruptcy was also an option, but she didn’t pursue it. I believe that deep down she still hoped for a comeback, and I truly wished she had one. But after all of this, the collapse of her marriage added another blow. What struck me most in those messages was her deep loneliness, and the fact that she was reaching out to Mr. K, a man who wasn’t her father, wasn’t a relative, and had no obligation to support, guide, or comfort her. In the most critical moment of her life, she was not supported by her own family, but by a total stranger. It wasn't enough.
THE PORTRAIT OF KSR https://m.blog.naver.com/strongyoun-now/2239152969291. She was full of debts (1.3B Won acc…
In the messages she exchanged with her manager, it can be seen that her mother posted several times on her Instagram. Regardless of how KSR responded afterward, this fact raises serious questions.
Remember the advertisers ? There were a lot of talks about their closing contracts, their filed lawsuits, the…
These repeated headlines about the companies suing Kim Soo Hyun are starting to backfire, possibly even hurting the companies themselves. It was initially reported that three companies (it seems to be four) filed lawsuits against him for damages, but their names weren’t disclosed. Now, one by one, they’re being revealed: first Cl*ssys, then Cuck*o, and now From Bi* and Tr*ndmaker (Dint*). Honestly, it looks like fans are eager for these names to come out, just so they know who to boycott. Here’s the kind of exchange happening between supporters and critics that had me laughing: “I wish I could throw my Cuck*o rice cooker at him.” “Too late. Looks like your rice cooker already dropped on your head.” “Better use C*way.” I doubt Cuckoo is thrilled to see their brand used in this kind of conversation. And ironically, it led people to dig up this gem: C*way sues CUCK*O Homesys for ice water purifier design infringement https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-industry/2025/04/11/NXI2YOPYG5EUVMAIEIN67AB3WQ/ Life is wonderful... and sometimes served with a side of spicy internet drama.
“The Kim Sae-ron Incident: Who Is Truly Responsible, and the Remaining Questions”A Silent Response and a Public…
You are absolutely right. Silence does not mean guilt. From a PR perspective, I don’t think his agency chose the best strategy, but from a legal standpoint, I believe his team of lawyers made the right decision. In cases like this, staying silent can be crucial to prevent the opposing party from knowing your full strategy. Only this way can you ensure they won’t attempt to fabricate evidence.
Procedurally, before hearing those against whom a criminal complaint has been filed, the complainants are first summoned for questioning. I wrote some time ago that KSH was seen at GM, and I suspected that his presence was related to the start of the investigation. It seems that was indeed the case. The hearing of Ga Se-yeon and KSR’s family is coming up. Are things starting to change at the police station?
On the 30th, Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency Acting Commissioner Park Hyun-soo announced at a regular press conference held on the 30th, "In relation to the case in which Kim Soo-hyun filed a defamation complaint against Kim Se-ui, the operator of the YouTube channel Garosero Research Institute (Ga Se-yeon), and the late Kim Sae-ron's bereaved family, we completed the investigation of the prosecution's attorney on the 18th." "On the 23rd, Kim Soo-Hyun's side filed another complaint against Kim Sae-ron for false accusation, and we are investigating that case as well after submitting a false accusation complaint. We plan to coordinate an appearance date with the suspect (Ga Se-yeon) and conduct an investigation soon." https://sports.donga.com/ent/article/all/20250630/131910102/1
Latest news : Kim Soo Hyun’s accuser loses big in high-profile case against YouTuber Tzuyang; court slaps ₩10…
I haven’t had time yet, but in the coming days I will post information about who he (Gar*ser* guy) is and what family he comes from, so that everyone reading the news can understand what and who is behind it. He has no intention of respecting the court’s decision
I haven’t been able to verify this information, but I’m sharing what I found about the YouTube channel that made various accusations against Kim Soo Hyun, including claims of criminal acts.
“Kim Se-ui, after asset seizure, faces ‘Gasyeon’ suspension? Eun Hyun-jang: “Will hold shareholders’ meeting to dismiss him” Reporter: Seo Seok-a Date: June 25, 2025, 18:06 "On the 25th, Eun Hyun-jang shared on his YouTube channel’s community tab that “there’s been another court ruling today. To sum it up in one sentence, the court once again ruled that my shareholder status regarding Gasyeon remains valid,” along with a photo of the ruling. Eun Hyun-jang also said, “Yesterday, I sent a certified letter requesting former lawyer Kim to disclose the accounting records, bank transaction history, and card usage details.” He added that Kim Se-ui has consistently refused these requests and that the court once again ruled that Eun’s shareholder status remains valid despite Kim’s objections. Earlier this year, Eun Hyun-jang argued through his YouTube channel that the ‘Jang’s God’ content was fabricated by CEO Kim’s YouTube channel ‘Garosero Research Institute’ and that he was defamed. Eun claimed that last November 28, he purchased 40,000 shares of Garosero Research Institute at tens of millions of won. Eun stated he bought 20,000 shares directly and received the remaining 20,000 shares from Kang Yong-seok, a lawyer and co-founder of Garosero Research Institute, in May 2023. He added that the court also recognized his shareholder status recently. Additionally, on the 12th of the same month, Eun Hyun-jang said through his YouTube channel that the court accepted his request to seize six bank accounts under Kim’s name related to Gasyeon and approved a seizure of approximately 120 million won. Meanwhile, Kim Se-ui’s side recently filed additional lawsuits against Kim’s representative and the actor for defamation over defamation claims. On the 24th, Eun Hyun-jang again sent a certified letter through a lawyer requesting disclosure of Gasyeon’s past five years of accounting records, bank statements, and card usage. He stated that if Kim Se-ui ignores this again, he will hold a shareholders’ meeting to dismiss Kim Se-ui. He warned Kim to step down as CEO of ‘Garosero Research Institute’. According to Eun Hyun-jang, if Kim is removed from the CEO position, he will not be able to run live broadcasts on the channel nor receive donations through those broadcasts. With Kim’s assets already seized, there are growing predictions that he may lose control of Gasyeon as well.” https://www.dogdrip.net/642263353
I know RuxiTS posted a link to the same news, but I thought this explains it in more detail.
Normally, there should be evidence, otherwise, not only is the defamation confirmed, but so is the slanderous…
OK. I’ll take the time to show exactly who this person is, even though the information is public and easy to find. There are just more nuances that have come to light through his recent actions
Your message, which claims to be “lacking subjectivism,” seeks to appear objective, logical, clear, and balanced.…
When you want to share a personal reflection, just say clearly that it’s your opinion, don’t disguise it as a balanced or objective viewpoint while subtly implying guilt or trying to steer the conversation under the pretext of ‘ethical debate.’ You say you didn’t intend to lecture anyone on ethics or speak from a legal standpoint, yet you ended your comment by claiming ‘the presumption of innocence doesn’t mean we should suppress critical thinking or ethical debate.’ That is a moral stance, and you used it to indirectly accuse those who defend Kim Soo Hyun of lacking critical thinking or ethics. If you don’t want your words read as an ethics lecture, don’t phrase them as one. From your message it’s clear that you imply guilt, you talk about him already having ‘a stain,’ but you don’t specify what you mean. This only fuels vague condemnation with no proof, which is exactly the problem here. For you it may be a ‘reasonable doubt,’ but for the fans who defend him, this is a matter of principle: defamation and slanderous accusations have real consequences. This is not blind fanaticism, it’s insisting that someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. As a citizen, I cannot accept this new habit of reckless accusations and trial by rumor, often pushed by opportunistic YouTubers and media outlets. If we want a civilized society, we cannot accept defamation as normal. The presumption of innocence is not optional, it’s a fundamental right and it should persist until a court says otherwise. And yes, by insisting he ‘already has a stain,’ you do affirm guilt, whether you admit it or not. If that ‘stain’ is about him initially denying an old relationship, that’s not a crime, many people, including you and me, aren’t always fully open about private matters for various reasons. That doesn’t make him guilty of the serious things he’s being accused of now. If you read the actual messages between KSR and her manager, it’s clear there’s much we don’t know, so no one should pretend to have all the facts. Finally, you mention ‘critical thinking,’ but you ignore the fact that the real aggressors here have been the ‘so-called haters’ who attack, insult and bully other users to silence any KSH fan. Take the time to read all the messages before you judge who is really fueling this toxic atmosphere. Your discomfort with how this issue is being discussed should not be directed at Kim Soo Hyun’s fans, they are doing exactly what any responsible person should do: upholding the presumption of innocence, which is an absolute right under any fair legal system.
Garosero's preparations to change into a victim of KSR's Family. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRKyeE7V5Es“Kim…
Such an excuse is not acceptable in the case of journalism professionals. “Journalists should take a sceptical view of every piece of information shared with them. They should not blindly trust contacts – even if those contacts have proved reliable in the past. This could lead to a cosy relationship that results in you dropping your guard, compromising your standards and publishing or broadcasting incomplete or unreliable information.” https://ijnet.org/en/story/fact-checking-tips-journalists https://www.numberanalytics.com/blog/fact-checking-in-journalism
Yep...Comeback project fell through so she complained of stress and c*t her wr*st on April 2, 2024. Then again…
It’s wrong to dislike her. Trust me, her situation was more tragic than you can imagine. And sadly, people often repress their emotions and take revenge on those they know aren't actually hurting them. She did the same thing...
Is there incriminating evidence against Kim Soo Hyun that Kim Sae Ron's family or Garosero have presented to the…
Normally, there should be evidence, otherwise, not only is the defamation confirmed, but so is the slanderous denunciation. Unfortunately, only KSR’s family will bear the consequences. Anyone who truly knows who Gar*sero is understands that there’s a real chance he won’t face any repercussions. But I believe you all know who he is, what family he comes from, and so on.
The truth is, this already seems more like a war with two sides.The worst part is that every time I pass through…
Your message, which claims to be “lacking subjectivism,” seeks to appear objective, logical, clear, and balanced. So let’s begin, just as we will end, with ethics, the very concept you invoked at the close of your statement. Ethics, as defined by philosophical and academic sources, is the systematic study of what is morally right and wrong. It is not based on feelings or public sentiment, but on reasoned principles.
Ethics means, at its core, avoiding harm, even when expressing disagreement. If this is truly an ethical debate, then let’s hold everyone, including the accusers, to ethical standards. Unfortunately, this is no longer just a misunderstanding or a “dispute”, a public war was initiated by Gar*sero and KSR’s family when they chose to publicly accuse a person of serious misconduct. Once those accusations were broadcasted, a line was crossed. Not once, but repeatedly, up to and including accusations of incitement to murder. This is not mere defamation; this is public criminal accusation, without a verdict, without due process. Let’s recall: Gar*sero’s statement included the shocking claim that the FBI was somehow involved or confirming suspicions. That was refuted by the FBI itself. So, again, where is the ethical foundation of these public statements? A criminal complaint was in fact filed against Kim Soo Hyun. And what is the purpose of such a complaint? To lead to a conviction. If the family of KSR truly sought justice, they should have begun with that path, through legal institutions, not public platforms. Then, if the authorities failed to act, they could have brought it to public attention. That would have been the ethical route. But they chose the opposite. Why? Was it because they calculated the risk, expecting Korean public opinion to pressure KSH into a public apology, regardless of guilt? A tactic used before, one might add. Had he apologized, it would have ended quietly, with media traction bringing attention, subscribers, and revenue to Gar*sero’s channel. This is not just speculation; it’s a reasonable doubt based on the unfolding of events. But according to his own statement, KSH refused to apologize for something he says he did not do. Why? Could it be because he is telling the truth? So then, what is the truth, and how can it be demonstrated? The truth must rest on evidence. What did the KSR family base their accusations on? They had proof at the beginning, that same proof must now be examined. But they now refuse to submit that evidence for verification. Why? They publicly damaged someone's reputation with that alleged proof. If they were confident, they would offer it for forensic examination to validate their claims. Their refusal suggests awareness of the potential consequences, slanderous denunciation, a serious legal offense. Kim Soo Hyun has already filed a complaint of this nature. So why withhold the evidence now? Observing these things is not about supporting or opposing someone, it’s about trying to reach an objective conclusion. Your message says those posting negative messages about KSH aren’t haters, but supporters of KSR’s family. That’s a flawed argument. Support implies reasoned advocacy, not blind repetition of accusations. Most of these posts do not defend KSR’s family with arguments or evidence, they attack KSH and anyone who disagrees, often in vulgar, aggressive, or bullying tones. You conflate that behavior with “supporting a cause.” But what you’re seeing is not support, it’s harassment. There’s a major difference between rational support and online mobbing. Can you honestly not distinguish between the two? You accuse KSH supporters of “obsessive defense.” But is it not ethical to defend someone until proven otherwise? That defense, until judgment, harms no one. But derogatory accusations, spread publicly, do real harm to reputation, mental health, and the presumption of innocence. You also claim that presumption of innocence does not mean we should believe KSH. But that’s exactly what the principle of presumption of innocence means: in dubio pro reo. Until a court decides otherwise, he is presumed innocent. This is not just legalism, it is a moral and ethical imperative. And no, that doesn’t automatically make the KSR family liars. But that’s why everyone expects them to present their proof for verification, especially now that the legal route is active. If they don’t, their allegations remain unfounded. You say there are “elements that raise reasonable doubts about KSH.” Fine. Then list them. And then list the doubts about KSR’s family and Gar*sero’s methods. Compare them honestly. That is how ethical reasoning works: weigh both sides. You also said that KSH’s supporters act with “moral superiority” as if they wield “the truth” and the law. Well, I'm not a fan of KSH, but yes, I speak confidently based on legal standards. That’s not pride, it’s professionalism. What your message tries to do is subtle: to shame or silence those who write in defense of a person who, legally, is still innocent. That is not ethical discourse, that’s rhetorical intimidation masked as balance. You say this is an ethical discussion? Then live up to it. And I’ll end where I began—with ethics. Ethics requires integrity, fairness, and the courage to apply the same standard to everyone. Freedom of speech is protected, but when it is used to harm, it ceases to be ethical. That’s not debate. That’s simply bad intention, without any ethical justification.
It is a clear fact that during 2 decades of him working in the industry there was never ever a real complaint…
This whole situation has degenerated because they didn’t expect such a reaction, and now, somehow, they are cornered by their own lies. They’re trying to escape by making remarks like “talentless,” “old,” and so on. It’s just a way to divert attention to another subject, one that won’t put them under pressure or expose them further.
Thank you, Tana. This article is truly valuable, especially because it includes messages exchanged between Kim…
I don’t know whether to post the phone messages presented by Mr. K. There are a lot of them, but they clearly reveal KSR’s condition and what she was going through. She is not to be blamed, anyone could have made mistakes in such circumstances. However, what I previously wrote about her treatment is confirmed: she was indeed undergoing psychiatric treatment. And it’s important to note that psychiatric treatment for depression can, in some cases, contribute to suicidal thoughts or behavior, especially in vulnerable individuals or in the early stages of treatment.
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Mr.K:
Did you get home safely, daughter? Since tomorrow is your day off, take a good rest and recover your strength~~
Seeing you today, you looked healthier than before,
so I feel a bit relieved~^^ Everyone is doing their best, so hang in there a bit more.
Don't lose your standards.
Let's recover quickly^^♡♡
KSR:
Yes, fighting! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
July 31, 2024 (Wednesday)
Mr.K
Saerona~ Happy birthday^^
I should have contacted you in the morning,
but I was out of it and only contacting you now
Do everything you want to do today and have a great time
KSR:
Hehe, thank you, Dad❤️😆
"⚠️ This user cannot be contacted."
****
KSR
“Yes, Father.”
“It’s funny.”
(9:35 PM)
Mr.K.
“You must’ve felt good being able to smile after so long
Have a good time with your friend~
Wear something warm when you go out!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my goodness”
(9:37 PM)
KSR
(KSR picture)
“Yes!”
(11:28 PM)
"⚠️ This user cannot be contacted."
***
KSR
(Sends a picture)
9:57 PM
Mr.K:
“You’re just doing cute poses, huh ♡♡♡♡♡”
9:58 PM
“My worries are over!!”
9:58 PM
KSR:
“❤️❤️”
9:58 PM
Mr.K:
“Have a great time~~ Don’t think about useless stuff~~ Promise me with dad!!!”
10:00 PM
KSR:
“Yes… 😢”
10:00 PM
Mr.K:
“Don’t even send crying emojis ♡♡”
10:01 PM
KSR:
“Okay!!! ❤️”
10:01 PM
⚠️ “This user cannot be contacted.”
****
KSR:
( blurred selfie)
"Service shot" (i.e., "A special photo just for you")
1:30 PM
📅 Sunday, October 20, 2024
(Two PDF files sent)
• “Guitar Man Sessions 4~5 Draft A 10.20.pdf”
Valid until ~2024.11.3
Size: 95.76 KB
• “Guitar Man Sessions 4~5 Draft B 10.20.pdf”
Valid until ~2024.11.3
⚠️ "This user cannot be contacted."
****
3:55 PM
Mr. K
Saerona, I’ve never recommended a project that I thought was morally inappropriate or unsuitable for my student. I wasn’t comfortable with you, who is an actor, working at a café, and I wanted you to lower your standards a bit, find a point of compromise, and return to acting as soon as possible.
KSR
3:56 PM
Yes, I understand. But my standards are high, so it's not like I reject projects because they don’t meet 100% completion, nor do I choose projects thinking they must be perfect.
KSR
3:57 PM
I think it's true that I don't have the confidence to act well if I'm morally uncomfortable or if it doesn't sit right with me.
Mr.K
3:57 PM
Okay, I understand.
KSR
3:57 PM
Thank you always. I'm really grateful. ㅎㅎ
⚠️ Cannot communicate with this user.
***
Mr.K
0:06 AM
Are you going to Bucheon starting today?
KSR
10:07 AM
Yes.
Mr.K
10:13 AM
ㅠㅠ Be careful today too~~ Let’s talk later♡♡
KSR
10:24 AM
Sir, by any chance,
Shinhan Bank 140-xxxx-xxxxxx
Can you deposit ₩xxx,000 under the name "Jeilum"? I’ll pay you back next weekㅠ
The food processor at home got seized and is about to be auctioned off.
They told me to settle the overdue fees…ㅠ
Mr.K
10:35 AM
I’ll send it after I finish driving.
KSR
10:35 AM
Thank you!! ㅠㅠ
****
Mr. K: I sent
KSR: Thanks! I’ll return next week!!!
Mr.K: But it's sent to my name. What do we do? Shouldn't you call them sometime?
KSR: Yes. Give me the bank account, please. I'll send it now.
Mr.K: You write~(meaning you take care of it)
KSR: the amount is too high
***
KSR: Thank you...I'll be back soon to buy my dad something to drink.
(onomatopoeia- sound of crying)
Mr.K: Instead, we eat together, right?
KSR: Yes!!!!
(KSR selfie)
***
June 15, 2024, 3:42 PM, synergy:
How's the academy going?
June 15, 2024, 3:42 PM, KSR:
At this point, I have to just go around and clean up everything ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
June 15, 2024, 3:43 PM, synergy:
You’ve been through a lot ㅠㅠㅠ
June 15, 2024, 3:43 PM:
So how are you managing life these days?
June 15, 2024, 3:51 PM, KSR:
Right now... I’m in a hopeless situation....
June 15, 2024, 6:30 PM, synergy:
I figured ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
June 15, 2024, 6:44 PM, KSR:
Yeah... my company suddenly stopped giving me assignments,
so I have to work hard and look for something else now.
June 15, 2024, 6:48 PM, synergy:
Yeah~ But the rent is so expensive.
It wasn’t a big deal when income was good though.
June 15, 2024, 6:49 PM, (KSR):
It's really hard to find a cheap place to rent in Seoul ㅠㅠ
***
KSR: Are you at the company?
I want to eat a sandwich
Mr.K. Yes.
I’ll buy it and let it in the office.
KSR: Yay! I’m on my way to the company
(picture, probably from bus)
***
10:53 in the morning, Manager/director: How about leaving from your house at 12:30?
10:53 in the morning, Kim Sae Ron: Yes!
10:53 in the morning, Manager/director : Ok^^
10:53 in the morning, Manager/director : Have you eaten?
10:53 in the morning, KSR: Photo
10:53 in the morning, KSR : We're going here. No, I haven't gotten up yet.
10:54 in the morning, Manager/director : Do you have something simple/light to eat? Should I buy you something?
11:07 in the morning, KSR: Yes, something simple/light.
11:07 in the morning, Manager/director: Ok ^^
11:10 in the morning, KSR: emoji
12:26 afternoon, Manager/director : I have arrived ~^^
12:38 afternoon, Manager/director : I sent you 100,000won.
You can cancel the transfer on the transaction details screen until the recipient receives the payment.
12:39 afternoon, KSR: 농협3 = major bank and agricultural cooperative.
12:40 afternoon, Manager/director : Cancellation of the 100,000 won transfer is complete.
***
2024.1.18
Mr.K.Ș You’re awake, right?
KSR: yes.
When you come, I have a favour to ask…
Can you please bring me a mixed iced double (coffee) and some cartridges (emoji)
Mr.K.: seems like we’re communicating through telepathy
KSR: why? They are all out?
Mr.K.: That’s what I thought
I have arrived
KSR: I will come down~
***
2024.1.19
Mr.K.: Sae Ron~have you slept a little? When you wake up send me a message I will bring you the mixed iced double (coffee)
KSR: Now I woke up
Mr.K.: Have you eaten? Should I bring you a kimbap?
KSR: Oh, yes please!
Mr.K: Ok~~ Then I’ll arrive at around 2.30.
KSR: (heart emoji)Yes
Mr.K: I’ve arrived
KSR: I’ll come down
2024.1.29
Mr.K: Sae Ron ~~ did you eat lunch?
KSR: Not yet. I have been sleeping
Mr.K: This answer make me feel half happy and half worried
KSR: I just ate
Sojaeji is the best…
Mr.K: haha. One less thing to worry about
KSR: I want to eat fresh cream cake..
Mr.K: hang on
KSR: yay (emoji)
2024.2.11
KSR: please…
Buy me one cartridge…
Mr.K: (photo)
Sae Ron, I left it in front of the front door~
KSR: Thank you ㅠㅠ
2024.2.8
KSR: (photo) I’m out of cigarettes…oh..
Mr.K: haha
KSR: (photo)
2024.1.23
Mr.K: Sae Ron are you awake?? Because you have to take your medicines from now, don’t skip meals and try to eat all 3 meals. And the weather is fierce…Be careful not to catch a cold~~
KSR: It’s very cold
You too, be careful not to catch a cold
Mr.K: Did you take your medicines?
KSR: yes. I’m cooking kimchi stew right now
Mr.K: oho. Nice
KSR: Oh, how can I go out on such a cold day
I just want to stay at home
2024.1.22
Mr. K: ok
KSR: Yes
Mr.K: how many cigarettes do you have left?
KSR: Are you busy?
Mr.K: Are you saying I should come and pick you up/give you a ride?
KSR: I’m looking forward to you coming to pick me up/give me a ride
(Emoji)
***
Mr.K: Where are you?
KSR: I’m selling ddeokbokki. Come and buy some. I want to go home.
Mr.K: You are selling ddeokbokki??
KSR: Yes. At my café
Pop-Up Event
Mr.K: Give me the address of the café
KSR: whoa
Mr.K: how much time left?
***
2024.2.1
KSR: Director, I had a psychiatric appointment today.
Could you please postpone it at 2:40 and come with me?
Mr.K: I’ve changed the reservation/appointment
KSR: Yes
2024.2.13
Mr.K: Sae Ron, call me when you wake up!
KSR: Wednesday at 4 o’clock and Friday at 6 o’clock
Mr. K: ok, ok
KSR: Just like this for this week
Mr.K: Let’s try with the others first, and then we can work out the details later ~~come back safely^^
KSR: Yes
Mr.K: You’re totally like Hong Gil Dong - (Hong Gil Dong is a Korean Robin Hood – type character, known for being everywhere and doing many things)
KSR: emoji 😊)
KSR: I have a hospital appointment on 15-th, 2:45. Psychiatry
Do I have a lesson scheduled tomorrow? At 4?
2024.2.28
Mr.K: Sae Ron, would you be able to go to the ENT clinic by yourself today? ☹
I have a meeting at 5.30, so I’ll be on a tight schedule~~
KSR: Sure
Mr.K: I’m sorry ☹
Mr.K: Are you on your way now?
KSR: No, I saw the movie
Mr. K: You saw it all?
KSR: Yes. I was really sleepy, but it was interesting
#search Dune
Mr.K: Ha ha. Looks like you saw something interesting.
KSR: Hehe
Mr.K: I’ve already called the hospital, so you just get your treatment and come back. Give me a call when you’re done with your treatment.
KSR: yes
***
Blurred image (Mr.K said that was from a suicide attempt, so it could have been from the hospital) and the text
This user is not registered as a friend. Please be careful to avoid potential harm such as requests for money.
***
2024.11.1
Mr.K: are you ok?
KSR: yes, yes
Mr.K: I was worried, you know~^^have deep rest and don’t be stressed~^^
KSR: yes
Search hospital
Mr.K: I will go now. Contact your mother too, Sae Ron
KSR: No ☹
Something happened not long ago
My parents should not know anymore
(blurred name) will come
Mr.K: I’ll arrive in about 20 minutes
Let’s go ~^^
KSR: get ready
***
2024.4.1
Mr.K: I’m at the office, so call me when you reach the first floor
KSR: I will be there in 4 minutes
Mr.K: ok
You must be tired. Still you look good. Keep fighting today! You know you can call me if you’re having a hard time, right?
Please tell your mother I’ll great her later, and ask her to take care, not to catch a cold during this change of seasons
KSR: Mom said to let you know she would have greeted you too –if only she wasn’t in her pijamas. Fighting
2024.7.17
KSR: Director, while I was asleep my mom posted something on Instagram using my phone
Take your medicine
2024.7.22
Mr.K: are you in a phone call?
KSR: yes
What would you like to eat?
I have to go and eat
Mr.K: You haven’t eaten yet?
KSR: I haven’t
2024.8.7
KSR: My mom posted something on Instagram again
Mr.K. I saw. Why is she doing this/being like this?
KSR: I don’t know
Mr.K: An article will come out again…
If she continuing like this, the situation will only be getting worse, you know.
Make sure to tell her firmly not to post again, and if that doesn’t work we’ll have to delete the account altogether
KSR: yes
Mr.K: What do you think?
KSR: I agree
***
2025.1.6
KSR: Do you have time to see me in Seoul?
Mr.K: Sure. Don’t cry.
Let’s meet and talk calmly
KSR: yes
Mr.K: I’m worried because you cry
KSR: yes dad
Please tell –(blurred name) that I worry a lot for good reasons, so even if she/he hates me, she/he shouldn’t go through much trouble … (we don’t know about whom she was talking about, and in Korean he or she depends on the context)
Mr. K: Actually I’ve just talked to her/him
KSR: What did she/he say?
Mr. K: She/he was just a bit confuse. She/he was thinking maybe something happened to you and that’s why you’re acting this way.
KSR: That’s right
Something is happening
I will come in Korea and tell you
I love –(blurred name)—but I had no other choice but to break up.
Mr.K: That’s why I’m hanging up now
Call me as soon as you get to Korea
Looking at the sequence of events, it’s clear that the posting of the photo with Kim Soo Hyun happened right when she was being summoned to repay her debt to GM. She tried to contact him, but couldn’t, so she resorted to any possible method to escape the pressure.
She even told someone else that she was convinced KSH didn’t know about the legal action, which is why she was so desperate to reach him.
And a crucial detail: she was under psychiatric treatment. That matters.
Now let’s consider her legal situation. She had taken a loan from GM, a contract based on expected future revenue. But after the DUI incident, her projects were cancelled and her debts grew. Legally, she became an insolvent debtor.
GM, whose business is not personal lending, had to justify that the money given wasn’t a disguised loan, otherwise it risked falling under fraud or tax evasion. Their summons was justified, especially since the professional relationship had ended, the repayment deadline had passed, and even the grace period was exhausted. As I mentioned before, personal bankruptcy was also an option, but she didn’t pursue it.
I believe that deep down she still hoped for a comeback, and I truly wished she had one. But after all of this, the collapse of her marriage added another blow.
What struck me most in those messages was her deep loneliness, and the fact that she was reaching out to Mr. K, a man who wasn’t her father, wasn’t a relative, and had no obligation to support, guide, or comfort her.
In the most critical moment of her life, she was not supported by her own family, but by a total stranger. It wasn't enough.
Here’s the kind of exchange happening between supporters and critics that had me laughing:
“I wish I could throw my Cuck*o rice cooker at him.”
“Too late. Looks like your rice cooker already dropped on your head.”
“Better use C*way.”
I doubt Cuckoo is thrilled to see their brand used in this kind of conversation. And ironically, it led people to dig up this gem:
C*way sues CUCK*O Homesys for ice water purifier design infringement
https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-industry/2025/04/11/NXI2YOPYG5EUVMAIEIN67AB3WQ/
Life is wonderful... and sometimes served with a side of spicy internet drama.
On the 30th, Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency Acting Commissioner Park Hyun-soo announced at a regular press conference held on the 30th, "In relation to the case in which Kim Soo-hyun filed a defamation complaint against Kim Se-ui, the operator of the YouTube channel Garosero Research Institute (Ga Se-yeon), and the late Kim Sae-ron's bereaved family, we completed the investigation of the prosecution's attorney on the 18th."
"On the 23rd, Kim Soo-Hyun's side filed another complaint against Kim Sae-ron for false accusation, and we are investigating that case as well after submitting a false accusation complaint. We plan to coordinate an appearance date with the suspect (Ga Se-yeon) and conduct an investigation soon."
https://sports.donga.com/ent/article/all/20250630/131910102/1
“Kim Se-ui, after asset seizure, faces ‘Gasyeon’ suspension? Eun Hyun-jang: “Will hold shareholders’ meeting to dismiss him”
Reporter: Seo Seok-a
Date: June 25, 2025, 18:06
"On the 25th, Eun Hyun-jang shared on his YouTube channel’s community tab that “there’s been another court ruling today. To sum it up in one sentence, the court once again ruled that my shareholder status regarding Gasyeon remains valid,” along with a photo of the ruling.
Eun Hyun-jang also said, “Yesterday, I sent a certified letter requesting former lawyer Kim to disclose the accounting records, bank transaction history, and card usage details.” He added that Kim Se-ui has consistently refused these requests and that the court once again ruled that Eun’s shareholder status remains valid despite Kim’s objections.
Earlier this year, Eun Hyun-jang argued through his YouTube channel that the ‘Jang’s God’ content was fabricated by CEO Kim’s YouTube channel ‘Garosero Research Institute’ and that he was defamed. Eun claimed that last November 28, he purchased 40,000 shares of Garosero Research Institute at tens of millions of won. Eun stated he bought 20,000 shares directly and received the remaining 20,000 shares from Kang Yong-seok, a lawyer and co-founder of Garosero Research Institute, in May 2023. He added that the court also recognized his shareholder status recently.
Additionally, on the 12th of the same month, Eun Hyun-jang said through his YouTube channel that the court accepted his request to seize six bank accounts under Kim’s name related to Gasyeon and approved a seizure of approximately 120 million won.
Meanwhile, Kim Se-ui’s side recently filed additional lawsuits against Kim’s representative and the actor for defamation over defamation claims.
On the 24th, Eun Hyun-jang again sent a certified letter through a lawyer requesting disclosure of Gasyeon’s past five years of accounting records, bank statements, and card usage. He stated that if Kim Se-ui ignores this again, he will hold a shareholders’ meeting to dismiss Kim Se-ui. He warned Kim to step down as CEO of ‘Garosero Research Institute’.
According to Eun Hyun-jang, if Kim is removed from the CEO position, he will not be able to run live broadcasts on the channel nor receive donations through those broadcasts. With Kim’s assets already seized, there are growing predictions that he may lose control of Gasyeon as well.”
https://www.dogdrip.net/642263353
I know RuxiTS posted a link to the same news, but I thought this explains it in more detail.
You say you didn’t intend to lecture anyone on ethics or speak from a legal standpoint, yet you ended your comment by claiming ‘the presumption of innocence doesn’t mean we should suppress critical thinking or ethical debate.’ That is a moral stance, and you used it to indirectly accuse those who defend Kim Soo Hyun of lacking critical thinking or ethics. If you don’t want your words read as an ethics lecture, don’t phrase them as one.
From your message it’s clear that you imply guilt, you talk about him already having ‘a stain,’ but you don’t specify what you mean. This only fuels vague condemnation with no proof, which is exactly the problem here. For you it may be a ‘reasonable doubt,’ but for the fans who defend him, this is a matter of principle: defamation and slanderous accusations have real consequences. This is not blind fanaticism, it’s insisting that someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As a citizen, I cannot accept this new habit of reckless accusations and trial by rumor, often pushed by opportunistic YouTubers and media outlets. If we want a civilized society, we cannot accept defamation as normal. The presumption of innocence is not optional, it’s a fundamental right and it should persist until a court says otherwise.
And yes, by insisting he ‘already has a stain,’ you do affirm guilt, whether you admit it or not. If that ‘stain’ is about him initially denying an old relationship, that’s not a crime, many people, including you and me, aren’t always fully open about private matters for various reasons. That doesn’t make him guilty of the serious things he’s being accused of now. If you read the actual messages between KSR and her manager, it’s clear there’s much we don’t know, so no one should pretend to have all the facts.
Finally, you mention ‘critical thinking,’ but you ignore the fact that the real aggressors here have been the ‘so-called haters’ who attack, insult and bully other users to silence any KSH fan. Take the time to read all the messages before you judge who is really fueling this toxic atmosphere.
Your discomfort with how this issue is being discussed should not be directed at Kim Soo Hyun’s fans, they are doing exactly what any responsible person should do: upholding the presumption of innocence, which is an absolute right under any fair legal system.
“Journalists should take a sceptical view of every piece of information shared with them. They should not blindly trust contacts – even if those contacts have proved reliable in the past. This could lead to a cosy relationship that results in you dropping your guard, compromising your standards and publishing or broadcasting incomplete or unreliable information.”
https://ijnet.org/en/story/fact-checking-tips-journalists
https://www.numberanalytics.com/blog/fact-checking-in-journalism
Ethics, as defined by philosophical and academic sources, is the systematic study of what is morally right and wrong. It is not based on feelings or public sentiment, but on reasoned principles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(disambiguation)
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ethical
Ethics means, at its core, avoiding harm, even when expressing disagreement. If this is truly an ethical debate, then let’s hold everyone, including the accusers, to ethical standards.
Unfortunately, this is no longer just a misunderstanding or a “dispute”, a public war was initiated by Gar*sero and KSR’s family when they chose to publicly accuse a person of serious misconduct. Once those accusations were broadcasted, a line was crossed. Not once, but repeatedly, up to and including accusations of incitement to murder. This is not mere defamation; this is public criminal accusation, without a verdict, without due process.
Let’s recall: Gar*sero’s statement included the shocking claim that the FBI was somehow involved or confirming suspicions. That was refuted by the FBI itself. So, again, where is the ethical foundation of these public statements?
A criminal complaint was in fact filed against Kim Soo Hyun. And what is the purpose of such a complaint? To lead to a conviction. If the family of KSR truly sought justice, they should have begun with that path, through legal institutions, not public platforms. Then, if the authorities failed to act, they could have brought it to public attention. That would have been the ethical route.
But they chose the opposite. Why?
Was it because they calculated the risk, expecting Korean public opinion to pressure KSH into a public apology, regardless of guilt? A tactic used before, one might add. Had he apologized, it would have ended quietly, with media traction bringing attention, subscribers, and revenue to Gar*sero’s channel. This is not just speculation; it’s a reasonable doubt based on the unfolding of events.
But according to his own statement, KSH refused to apologize for something he says he did not do. Why? Could it be because he is telling the truth?
So then, what is the truth, and how can it be demonstrated?
The truth must rest on evidence. What did the KSR family base their accusations on? They had proof at the beginning, that same proof must now be examined. But they now refuse to submit that evidence for verification. Why?
They publicly damaged someone's reputation with that alleged proof. If they were confident, they would offer it for forensic examination to validate their claims. Their refusal suggests awareness of the potential consequences, slanderous denunciation, a serious legal offense. Kim Soo Hyun has already filed a complaint of this nature.
So why withhold the evidence now?
Observing these things is not about supporting or opposing someone, it’s about trying to reach an objective conclusion.
Your message says those posting negative messages about KSH aren’t haters, but supporters of KSR’s family. That’s a flawed argument. Support implies reasoned advocacy, not blind repetition of accusations. Most of these posts do not defend KSR’s family with arguments or evidence, they attack KSH and anyone who disagrees, often in vulgar, aggressive, or bullying tones.
You conflate that behavior with “supporting a cause.” But what you’re seeing is not support, it’s harassment. There’s a major difference between rational support and online mobbing. Can you honestly not distinguish between the two?
You accuse KSH supporters of “obsessive defense.” But is it not ethical to defend someone until proven otherwise? That defense, until judgment, harms no one. But derogatory accusations, spread publicly, do real harm to reputation, mental health, and the presumption of innocence.
You also claim that presumption of innocence does not mean we should believe KSH.
But that’s exactly what the principle of presumption of innocence means: in dubio pro reo. Until a court decides otherwise, he is presumed innocent. This is not just legalism, it is a moral and ethical imperative.
And no, that doesn’t automatically make the KSR family liars. But that’s why everyone expects them to present their proof for verification, especially now that the legal route is active. If they don’t, their allegations remain unfounded.
You say there are “elements that raise reasonable doubts about KSH.” Fine. Then list them. And then list the doubts about KSR’s family and Gar*sero’s methods. Compare them honestly. That is how ethical reasoning works: weigh both sides.
You also said that KSH’s supporters act with “moral superiority” as if they wield “the truth” and the law. Well, I'm not a fan of KSH, but yes, I speak confidently based on legal standards. That’s not pride, it’s professionalism.
What your message tries to do is subtle: to shame or silence those who write in defense of a person who, legally, is still innocent. That is not ethical discourse, that’s rhetorical intimidation masked as balance.
You say this is an ethical discussion? Then live up to it.
And I’ll end where I began—with ethics.
Ethics requires integrity, fairness, and the courage to apply the same standard to everyone. Freedom of speech is protected, but when it is used to harm, it ceases to be ethical.
That’s not debate. That’s simply bad intention, without any ethical justification.