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Ep 7.

So a couple who've been together a short time and are barely in their early twenties decides, "Hey, let's have a baby!" Sorry, but young heteros don't have babies under these circumstances any more than gays do. The fact is, kids this age usually get pregnant by accident, not choice.

And why are these characters having this baby? Answer: to prove a point to Eiji's father, who said gays cannot have children. Great, go ahead and bring a life into this world just to be petulant and prove a point to daddy cuz you think he's homophobic. Beyond this, the boys expressed NO genuine desire to be parents. I feel sorry for a child born under such circumstances.

Ok, ep 6. We know where Eiji's parents stand on the relationship, but what about Makki's family? Why is this show acting as if Makki has no family and only Eiji does?

I'm on Ep 6 and the show, so far, has established more chemistry between Mieko and Makki, than between Eiji and Makki. For instance, there have been lots of scenes of Mieko and Makki talking alone, while nearly none of Eijii alone with Makki. We just see them as friends hanging out in groups, then suddenly they are dating. But they still act just like friends. They have no romantic spark between them.

LOL, you are right. I hadn't even thought of that stuff!

Beautifully put. It doesn't matter how outlandish a premise is in a supernatural story, as long as the story unfolds according to its own dictated logic of the supernatural events. But people must still act like people. Indeed, you put this so well that I wish I'd said it myself! Thx.

Good point. Because part of me really likes the show and the actors are definitely doing a good job. I guess I'll get past my qualms the more I watch the show and both characters settle into their roles.

Great examples. Sometimes open endings work, and sometimes you can tell it's just that the writer did not know how to end it, and thus it's totally lame.

Bingo. The writers really copped out on making a clear statement as to whether or not he was actually divorced, and whether or not he was ever going to hook up with the young girl. Sometimes I like "open ending" but in this case, you are correct, it just felt like a cop out.

Agree 100%. In fact, I just posted a comment above about how I'm willing to suspend disbelief for a fantasy, but this show is asking its viewers to suspend a bit too much disbelief. I mean, the writers of fantasy need to at least TRY to make things logical, and they've been very lazy about this so far.

SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF

I get that a show like this requires us to suspend disbelief and just accept supernatural occurrences like time travel. So I was willing to let it go when the guy from the future's cell phone turned on despite his having no account 15 yrs ago, and that he rented a room despite having no credit cards that would've been connected to a bank 15 yrs ago. But I can't get past the way the guy from the past accepts the looney behavior of the guy from the future.

1) The guy from the future is a complete stranger who keeps hugging him and saying "I miss you."

2) He broke into the guy from the past's room.

3) The guy from the past figured out that the guy who broke into his room and keeps hugging him, is also the total stranger who kept calling him up crying and saying, "I'm sorry."

4) The guy from the future, who's only known the guy from the past for 1 mere day, asks him to take a trip with him.

5) The guy from the future apologizes to the guy from the past and says "Don't die on me again."

At this point wouldn't the guy from the past be calling the cops because he has a stalker who's insane? I really want to like this show, but it's getting harder and harder to roll along and suspend disbelief.

A lot of people online agree with you and actually theorized that at the end he DID divorce his wife, and that when he saw the young girl again in the final scene, and she said "Let's get together," it was implying that he was going to have a relationship with her. I actually would've liked to have seen that and would not have thought she was too young. But the ending was just so vague about it all that there was no way of knowing if he ended up with the young girl or even if he was divorced or not. It was so open ended that it drove me nuts. I think this was one serious flaw in an otherwise good show.

I liked the show, primarily, for its lessons on life such as loyalty to family and community. It did a really good portraying that. Consider how his one brother even paid for the young girl's grandmother's funeral despite not knowing her well, because he simply wanted to do something good and humanitarian. The show portrayed things like this often, and did so quite well.

I agree that it was illogical for the ML in "My Mister" to keep putting up with the shit he did from his wife, and then to stay with her. That drove me nuts. I also hated how even at the end it was not clear if he divorced that wife; they only said that she went to America to be with their son who was in school in America. I thought, wtf, so his cheating wife is not not even in the same house with him? Does this mean he is along and not having a sexual relationship with anyone at all?

As for the young girl, I got why he refused her.. She was too young and it would've made him feel skeevy to sleep with her. Nice guys truly do turn down girls who are just too young, as it makes them feel like dirty old men. So turning her down made sense to me. But otherwise, I agree with your comment that some of his actions were illogical -- mostly in terms of his tolerating his wife though, but not in terms of refusing the young girl.

Thanks for your reply!

I think it was a matter of casting. The actor is genuinely gorgeous, to the point that it was a bit distracting when it was not part of the character. In real life, listen, people notice looks on the level of this guy's. Otherwise, I agree with you down the line. And I am really loving this drama because it feels like an Indie movie. I love how the conversations are sort of rambling, like in real life, and how there are scenes of the kids just hanging out, doing nothing really specific, or just messing around at the beach. The actors are all excellent as well.

Wow, that was perfectly put. I felt the same as you about Senpai and Mr. Unlucky. And I absolutely agree with all you said about this show too.

But what's odd about this drama so far is that the sister and her friend acted as though Eiji is somehow not an incredibly hot guy, which he is. Instead, they went on about how he had no friends before meeting Makki and Mieko. Maybe it's just that the actor playing Eiji happens to be super handsome, and this was not in the manga. I don't know, but it's distracting that the characters seem not to notice that this guy is gorgeous, while instead emphasizing that Makki is a heartthrob at school.

Eiji is incredibly good looking. Meanwhile, I find it hard to buy that Makki is a heartthrob at school because he is, well, only average looking. Of course, he has a great personality, and I assume that this is why Eiji likes him. But that would not be a reason for the silly girls at school (who only care about looks) to like him. Am I alone in thinking this?

In what way does Eiiji turn out to be "not so nice a guy"??? I got the impression from other plot summaries that he gets dumped by Michio for the other guy, Sugimoto. Doesn't that just mean he's kind of pitiful for getting dumped rather than "not so nice a guy"????

You are the bomb! I am soooo grateful for people like you who sub things for free. It is so generous of you, and I cannot express how grateful I am. Moreover, you are doing such a fine job. The subs for Eps 1-3 are excellent. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I'm with you, I am also enjoying this show and sense that the director is shooting for something very sophisticated and grown up. I've seen Eps 1-3 so far and I am hooked. I am also with you in that nothing so far has surpassed My Beautiful Man. But some have come close. Recently, I loved "Old Fashioned Cupcake" although I was disappointed that the couple did not kiss at the end. I realize that the show was being faithful to the manga, but come on, producers don't need to be so faithful that they are replaying a manga line by line, frame by frame, as they did in this show.

Because a kiss was crucial in this show in so far as it would've shown that Nozue, who had never touched a man, could cross that barrier and have a male-on-male physical attraction. We already knew that Togawa has always been gay, but a kiss was crucial to show the development in Nozue. The fact that he retreated and flew to the wall when he heard a noise in the alleyway, made it seem as if he were still fearful of showing physical intimacy. So when he told Togwa later, "I am nearly 40 but could kiss you anywhere," it did not ring true.

This is why that "almost kiss" nearly killed the show for me. Absent that, however, I thought that Cupcake was perfect. The acting was surprisingly professional. I mean, Togawa's confession scene showed how experienced these 2 actors are. They are the reason the show was so excellent. I may have been disappointed in the "almost kiss" but I still loved it enough to have re-watched it 3 times already!

I always agree with you Ximmich, so I am curious as to what you thought of Cupcake? Your favs are all my favs, including "The Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese" which many disliked because they thought it had blackmail, non-consensual kissing, blah, blah, blah. But I loved it! So I was relieved when I met you here in MDL. We were 100% in agreement on our fave, "My Beautiful Man." BTW, thanks for establishing a group for us regarding that MBM. I look for the novel's translation updates every week!

I like that this show is set at a leisurely pace -- it's 10 episodes of 30 min each, after all, so it can take its time revealing the characters' personalities in a more realistic, fleshed out way. It has a very different vibe than the J-BL series that are 6 eps of 22 minutes each like "My Beautiful Man" and "Old Fashioned Cupcake." Those shows had episodes that were a concentration of plot points moving forward at a clip. To be clear, I adored MBM and OFC; it's just that this is very different from any BL series I've ever seen. It's shot differently and the sensibility is more like an Indie film. Granted, the fact that it's paced so leisurely could've made me impatient, as I was not sure where the hell it was going in Eps 1 and 2, but Ep 3 grounded it.

Eiji has finally told Makio that he likes him, while simultaneously coming out of the closet to his sister. Then we hear Makio say that he's never been interested in dating any of the girls at school, even though we viewers know that tons of girls at school like him. So he's clearly got some room in him to consider dating a boy. Indeed, he's said as much to Eiji when he said that he never wanted to date any of those girls but "has fun when he's with Eiji" and then he says, "If I went out with you, maybe I'm interested." It's killing me that Makio left it so open-ended like that, but at least the show is at a place where we can see a relationship between Makio and Ejii progressing. That was crucial, because for a while there I was getting more of GL vibe than a BL vibe from this show -- I mean, that bathtub scene with the sister and Mieko! lol.

I am liking this show so far, but I do think it's lacking in showing Makio and Eiji alone to illustrate chemistry between them. So far, it seems like it's Ejii just having a crush on Makio from afar, and we have not seen them alone enough to sense a true romantic chemistry yet. I hope the future episodes create that.