Maggi64

Thank you soooo much! Because that makes a lot more sense given the early stage of the relationship.

I take it that you know Japanese?

Thanks! I have heard this word in so many Japanese BL's and feature films and it is used in a variety of contexts. Sometimes it seems to mean what Americans mean when we say "I like you," but more often it's said when we mean "I love you." I also think it often means what Americans do when we say, "Will you go out with me?"

But I like best your notion that it can mean, "I am attracted to you," because that feeling comes somewhere in the middle of "love" and "like."

The cop told Isumi "skida" at the end of the episode (I don't know how to spell it, but the word sounds like "skida" in English spelling, so I'm going with that). Now, I know this cop fell for Isumi at first sight and has been pursuing him hard, but wouldn't it be weird for him to be declaring love this soon? And doesn't the word "skida" mean "I love you"???

Can someone who knows Japanese explain how the Japanese use the word "Skida." It's usually translated in subtitles to say "I like you." But after years of watching Japanese movies/shows I realized that even though the subs translated "Skida" to say "I like you," the context makes it mean "I love you." In other words, characters always say this word when they are in situations depicting romantic love. So is the cop declaring romantic love this soon?

Watch the scene where she gives Taichi his "sloppy notes." She walks away with her back turned to him. He calls her back and she hears him.

Listen, I am enjoying this show and actually rated it a 9. So I am not hating on the show. But the director is being sloppy in the depiction of just how much the character Maya can hear and in what situations her hearing does or does not function. That's all.

Yes, but Kohei has also said that Taichi is the ONLY one he can hear from behind, etc. That was the WHOLE point. Taichi is so special that Kohei can still hear him even as he's losing the ability to hear everyone else. So why is Maya hearing people from behind whose lips she cannot read?

The character Maya is said do be as deaf as Koehi (who specifically said that Taichi's the only one he can hear from behind). Then, in the scene where she tells Taichi that his notes are bad, she specifically said she could not hear other people but only "guessed" what they were saying. Yet when she walked away, suddenly she could hear Taichi calling her when her back was turned.

I fear that this scene of Maya hearing someone from behind was simply an inconsistent character depiction by the show's directer.

How come Maya can hear people who call her even when her back is turned and cannot be reading lips? I thought her hearing was as bad as Koehi's.

You stated, "I am 20 years old which means i am an adult and know what am talking about."

Well, by the same logic, that actor is 18 years old (only 2 years younger than you), and therefore legally an adult who also knows what he's doing. So why are you implying that his NC scene was some sort of child abuse? He is about the same age as you, and if you are smart enough to know what you're doing at your age, then by your own logic, so is he.

I love how when I replayed the sex scene from the trailer just now a caption popped up saying "Most Replayed Scene." It's comforting to know I'm not alone.

Thank you! And I gotta say, if a trailer's meant to be a tease that makes you want more, they certainly succeeded with this one. lol.

Thanks! Now you gotta send me the trailer, lol.

Wait, when did he kiss Great on the forehead? From what I gathered, Tyme is attracted to Great, but they still have not solidified a relationship. Tyme was even nervous just asking for Great's Line ID. Was the kiss in one of Great's "visions" ? Did I miss something?

Don't be scared, as he is NOT a pedophile. He is accused of being one because others misunderstood what was going on with him and the young girl who wanted to stay with him and whom he let stay with him. SPOILER: she was actually being sexually abused by her cousin at home, and this is why she went to the main character's house and wanted to stay there. He was an adult and she was a young girl, so him letting her stay there looked like a situation of pedophilia, but it was not.

Yep, I had no idea because i don't watch Thai BL's. Just reading the replies I got to my question indicated that the gossip and obsession surrounding Thai celebs is far more intricate and involved than the media surrounding celebs in America. The worst it gets here is, say, the way the media hounded Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie when Pitt dumped Jennifer Anniston for Jolie. There was paparazzi hounding the couple for pictures, but that was pretty much it. And the psycho American fans I cited vis-a-vis John Lennon and Jodi Foster were 25 years ago.

Other than those cases, I do see not the kind of obsession that I see with the Asian media surrounding celebs. I mean, the fans get online and try to ruin careers of one celeb over another as if one celeb were a sports team and one must cheer for the defeat of one team over another in some kind of Superbowl. Rather, not the Superbowl, but some kind of Death Match. Because the Asians hound their celebs until the celeb finally kills themselves.

Maybe it's because I'm old and in my fifties and this is a new generation wherein the internet has changed how the crazies can obsess on celebs. Or maybe it's because the Asians approach celebrity culture differently. Either way, I just don't get it.

However, I do get why the actor Bible would refrain from getting involved with the shit-storm surrounding the guy Build. I think it's wise that he kept his mouth shut about this and did not "defend Build" as the Build fans demanded of him.

It would be different if he were a friend of Build's, in which case we'd expect loyalty to a friend. But from what I gathered on this thread, he had nothing to do with Build other than co-starring with him in one lousy show.

OMG, I had no clue that the BL fandom could be this crazy. The fact that they think Bible and Build are dating in real life just because of a show indicates how nuts fans can be. It reminds me of the fan who stalked John Lennon of the Beatles and killed him. Or the fan of Jodi Foster who shot President Reagan to "impress her." Fans can be fucking nuts. No wonder celebrities get so frightened of their fans. And to think that the cases I cited happened 25 years ago, before the internet. It must be much worse for celebs now with the internet giving crazy fans a forum.

Are Build fans attacking ALL the stars from Kinn/Porsche, or just Bible? Because none of the other stars from that show defended Build either, right? So are they attacking all the other stars too, or do they just have something weird against Bible?

Are Build fans attacking ALL the stars from Kinn/Porsche, or just Bible? Because none of the other stars from that show defended Build either, right? So are they attacking all the other stars too, or do they just have something weird against Bible?

I get what you are saying about Build fans being delusional and, as you said, aggressive toward anyone who criticizes Build. But Bible never criticized him, did he?

As I see it, he simply refrained from getting involved in the situation. In other words, he did not defend Build because he did not want to be involved in a situation that had nothing to do with him. If it were me, I would not want to get involved in that mess either. So Build did the right thing to keep out of it.

Wait a minute, are you saying that the only reason these Build fans are angry is that Bible did not defend his co-star in a show? Why should he have defended him? It was not his problem, it was his co-star's problem with an ex-girlfriend. It's not like he was a relative or old friend of Build's. He didn't even meet Build until they made Kinn/Porsche, and then he was simply a co-star, right? I don't get why Build fans would expect a co-star to get involved.

It's bizarre to me that Build fans would want to ruin Bible's career simply because he did not defend some guy he barely knew and merely co-starred with in one show. Shouldn't they just be mad at Build's ex-girlfriend for bringing the charge?

This whole situation is bizarre to me. But thank you for explaining. :)

But on Bible's MDL page I read someone saying that Bible was an awful person, and then another commenter defended Bible and accused the first commenter of being and "obsessed Build fan" who wanted to ruin Bible's reputation in order to defend Build. But why would a Build fan want to ruin Bible's reputation?

I just don't get why Bible has anything at all to do with Build's legal problems with his ex-girlfriend. I mean, Bible starred in the same show as Build. Starring in that show is their only relationship, so why should anything link him to Build's legal problems with that ex girlfriend? As I see it, he has nothing to do with that situation at all. Why are Build fans linking him to it?

Can someone please explain why people in this thread keep referring to some controversy between Bible and that guy Build? What happened between these 2 actors that I missed?

I am a BL fan, but I only watch BL's from Japan, Korea and Taiwan. I avoid Thai BL's because they all feel like they came off a factory assembly line manufactured by GMMTV, with little care about acting, directing and original storytelling. Since I don't watch many Thai BL's I seem to have missed something major that happened with these actors.

I only watched Kinn/Porsche because there was so much promotion and hoopla surrounding it in the BL fandom. And then I only stuck with it cuz the guy playing Vegas was so cool. I looked up his background and that actor, Bible, is incredibly smart. He has a degree in Mechanical Engineering, which is a notoriously difficult field. And he spent 12 years of his earlier education at an International School where all classes were in English and all the students from around the world spoke English to each other as their common language. That's why his English pronunciation was so impeccable. At any rate, I find him to be an interesting person.

Then I come to these sites and keep seeing people refer to him being embroiled in some controversy with that guy, Build. All I know about Build is that he played Pete in Kinn/Porsche and was later accused of abusing his girlfriend. But wouldn't that controversy just be between Build and the ex-girlfriend? What does Bible have to do with it? Can someone please explain this to me?