When she speaks as Mudeok, it sounds like a generic countryside accent, one that implies she is born in a lower class in a historical drama's context. That is usually how actors portray people who are not born in noble families but are part of a lower worker class, hence not having received high education for their speech and accent to be refined. More specifically she sounds like her accent does not originate from within the palace or the capital, which in turn is closer to the royal accent than that of the countryside.
In Alchemy of Soul's case, the geography is fictional so accents are not meant to be representing regions of the real world. Even if they were, Naksu wouldn't really know what accent Mudeok would speak in, so she would simply use one as generic as possible to convince people that she is a sold off servant.
tbh never liked the historical genre so much but this 2 episodes changed my type. now gonna make a historical…
I enjoyed 100 Days My Prince, even though it had its flaws like most dramas. It was one of the few times I cared about the second leads as much as (if not more than) the main leads. All actors did a great job. Other than that, Mr. Queen/Iron Queen is also a good one, but you already mentioned you watched it.
In an early episode HK refuses to announce severe weather warning when SW suggests it because she thinks millions…
Well, even for those of us who are not meteorologists it's pretty simple to understand the danger of a typhoon VS the danger of heavy rain. Going with an extreme forecast based on heavy rain without being sure of it would cost a lot with potentially no point at all if the rain doesn't fall. On the other hand, an extreme forecast for a typhoon will potentially save hundreds of lives, if not thousands, given the predicted and forecasted 14th typhoon cost 120 lives, so an unpredicted one could very well result in many more casualties. It's better to be safe than sorry. Money is mostly at stake in the heavy rain scenarios, while human lives, other than money, are at stake in the typhoon scenarios.
I feel so sorry for Forecaster Um's wife. I really hope they will get back on track eventually. He seems too clueless…
Both her and their daughter were cold and bitchy towards him and then they were surprised that he felt uncomfortable in his own home and left. Then again, he chose to be away from his family for work and that made them grow distant, but it's not like he was partying, it was work. They treat him like a stranger and then they're like ~~surprised pikachu face~~ "why did he leave? why won't he come back? why is he lying about where he's staying?" Like PLEASE you treated him like a burden in his own home.
This went from 8.7 to 8.2 today due to rating bombing. Why even rate a show after two episodes?
The rating is bound to fluctuate with new dramas, since the users rating are not that many for the average to be stable; it keeps changing until the drama completed. This pretty much always happens.
Allow me to partially correct you. There have been organizations hosting dance battle competitions for decades…
Well I said partially because you were stating the judging criteria and the dance battle types you mentioned as being the universal status quo, when it's not. So I was partially correcting that notion while adding to your points. I wouldn't have said anything, but for most South Koreans battles are familiar in that organized competition / event / dancers' night type, as opposed to the impulsive out of nowhere type. I also never said anything about the judges not being qualified to be in their seats. You're very adamant and passionate about those two being capable of judging in the panel, but it makes me sad that you don't seem to care enough to even google the third judge's name after watching all the episodes and not catching his name though. The show is not about Taeyong and BoA, the show is about the dance crews. I do think they're qualified enough to be judges because of their experience in the kpop industry, but it really shows how they view judging from a commercial kpop perspective, instead of a dance centered, artistic perspective. They might've seen battles and competitions, but I'm sure that's nowhere near how many all those dancers competing and all the dancers watching have seen and experienced. It doesn't take away from their opinions and perspective, but it is a different feel, a different school of standards. On the other hand, a lot of those crews have built a career on kpop choreography, so I guess it is all balanced out at the end of the day.
🅰🅱🅾🆄🆃 🆃🅷🅴 🅹🆄🅳🅶🅸🅽🅶:This is street dance -- dance battle.It's not about…
Allow me to partially correct you. There have been organizations hosting dance battle competitions for decades now. So dance battles are not just impulsively breaking out, they're organized regional and global events with experienced judges, MCs and DJs. There are also different battle systems, like 7 to smoke or 1 vs 1's and they also differ depending on dance style or whether they include more than one dancer at a time, for example when there are duos battling. Among those who're competing in this show, some of them have made their name and reputation from the ground up out of dance battles. See for example Lip J. If you have ever been to dance battles or watched footage online, you know that while the hype factor plays a great role, a lot of times the judges will choose the one with better technique and musicality as the winner of the battle. Even if the crowd goes wild for a dancer, the judges' respinsibility there is not to be swayed by a 'woah' move making the crowd cheer & choose the one who won the battle in their eyes. Being creative and witty will win the battle when technique and musicality are on equal footing, but if a dancer is lacking in that aspect then they won't be winning battles, especially in later rounds.
I know lip j's dance style is waacking, but sometimes her move is too repetitive. (Just my opinion, you have yours…
Most of them have been repetitive. Lip J didn't show her best, but you can't single her out like this since a lot of others also used pretty much the same moves throughout 4 episodes. There are some who literally did the same high kick 6 times, or just twerked for half their time on the battle floor.
who are you guys rooting for? for me it was initially ygx but now its changed to lachica
I am mostly rooting for Proudmon because of Lip J, so I'm biased in that way. However, after episode 4, the choreography and performance I enjoyed the most was YGX's BoA performance. They were the most detailed, polished and synchronized out of all crews.
To be honest, on one hand I agree that fair play is preferable in most cases. I also get mad when the first to go in a battle doesn't leave the dancefloor and stands there after the switch. It happened a lot & it made me so frustrated every time. If it's the other person's turn, gtfo the floor.
On the other hand, if it's a competition show produced by mnet, you know that the producers will do everything they can with the questions, the wording and the editing to pity the crews and the dancers against each other. They want to have dramatic content, confrontation and disagreements make a show spicy for the masses. Besides, mnet has a really bad reputation when it comes to competition shows (see the produce 101 franchize where they rigged the results & the way the have mistreated competitors in certain cases). So most people who started watching were expecting this sort of petty storyline drawn for those who compete.
At the end of the day, it's a competition and they're gonna do anything to stay and not get eliminated, so as long as it's within the rules, when they're given any means to sabotage an opponent they are allowed to take it since it's within the competition's terms to whcih all of them agreed.
y'all does anyone know why the girls' tattoos are being censored? in ep 1 they had to wear a patch kinda thing…
Most if not all TV stations will censor tattoos of people appearing on TV, whether by using these sticker patches or by blurring it out with editing, rarely ever done with makeup. It has to do with tattoos being associated with the mafia and thus still being a taboo for the media, which are still to this day extremely conservative. It will happen to anyone who appears on TV, idols and dancers alike, but they mostly care for the most visible ones & sometimes they don't even fully cover them. Other things censored or leading to higher age rating for a program are knives, cigarettes, cussing or "revealing / suggestive outfits" & "homosexual acts". You get the gist.
First of all, his name is Hobeom, not Hebeom. He mentioned multiple times, both to Chaerok and to his father that…
Here's the thing: the key is that many players were lined up with knees and shoulders on the floor, ready to be punished in order. It wasn't only Hobeom receiving punishment, he was either first or last in line, with others literally next to him in the exact same position. So not only did we hear him explain it, we were shown minors lined up to be punished with a baseball bat by their adult coach.
His son did not "forgive him so easily" like you said. He was in turmoil, he was hesitant, he couldn't see him face to face, he didn't want to call him or answer his calls for a long time. It took time before Deokchul talked to him about forgiving his own father in the past and how much an apology meant to him back then. He could see that this young man avoided the subject of his father for a while. It evidently bothered him and he had not moved on from what happened.
Chaerok ended up being alone with no family for a long time, which is why he needed to at least talk with his father. He yearned for that feeling of belonging somewhere. He admitted that he was envious of Seong Gwan (Deokchul's youngest son) for having a family to have these gatherings with, when they were talking on that couch in the frontyard. He was complaining about his family members, but Chaerok envied the warmth of family being together.
Once he learned that his father apologized to two of the people he hurt, instead of causing any trouble like he thought he would upon hearing his son was injured, he realized that his fatehr had remorse for his actions and was at least trying to change for the better. His father explained that he regrets hurting his players and he apologized to his son for not being there for him. From that point onwards it is up to Chaerok to decide whether he'll accept his apology, and we see him very reluctantly and slowly adapt and learn to be comfortable around his father. It doesn't happen instantly or easily.
The fact that you admittedly made assumptions interpretting what happened, doesn't mean that I made assumptions as well. I am only citing things said directly by the characters themselves, things you apparently missed. My words are not my own conclusions, it's what the writers explained through the characters' dialogue, but you probably missed those lines or perhaps the subtitles you watched didn't correctly translate what was being said. You wouldn't have understood that he only mistreated Hobeom specifically or that it only happened once, if you'd paid attention to four different characters: Chaerok, his friend, his dad, and Hobeom talking about how it used to happen often, not only to Hobeom but the rest of the team as well.
To make myself clear, I never attacked your character or called you names, so it's very rude of you to go ahead and call me pathetic. I simply pointed out the correct name, because you used the wrong name in both this comment and in other comments responding to other people. I also never once "lashed out" on you, I clarified what you seem to have misunderstood as a response to your confusion. When you post a public comment on a site thousands have access to, be prepared for people to have things to say as a response, which is something I did politely, unlike yourself.
Last but not least, as far as downplaying abuse goes, you literally said "hit one player" & "just one time". There are multiple characters narrating and explaining what happened in that team and how it affected them mentally. We know it happened more than once because they specifically say that it used to happen instead of 'it happened once'. We are also shown that happen in a quite clear way. However, you chose to ignore the fact that an adult coach used to often hit those teenagers with a baseball bat as explained, and you say that it doesn't make sense that he went to jail "just for hitting one person once"; or that the team disbanded and the players were affected with some quitting the sport. That is the definition of downplaying it, you make it seem like it's not of importance by accusing the plot and writing of not making sense, in other words saying that what happened in the story wasn't following common sense– but it does. I didn't accuse you of downplaying abuse in general & I didn't talk about your overall stance on abuse, I called out downplaying this specific case of an adult coach abusing his team's minor athletes, which he admits himself and his students testify to it.
Does anyone get what the thing with Chae Roks dad is?? I don’t understand at all, it’s done so badly it’s…
First of all, his name is Hobeom, not Hebeom. He mentioned multiple times, both to Chaerok and to his father that both him and the rest of the kids would be physically punished more than once by their coach, Chaerok's dad. We got to hear him say that whenever he confronted Chaerok, when the coach went and found him after his release, and also when Chaerok found him to give him the soccer shoes his father bought for him.
Chaerok's friend, who was also in the team, admitted that he hated the coach for a long time as well. No, it was not "just once". He habitually abused student athletes, which is punishable by law. The punishments affected each player and the team as a whole, and he was charged for repeated physical abuse against minors.
Chaerok's dad, when he met with Hobeom after his release, explained that he got greedy and wanted to push them to their limits to reach their potential, which in turn made them lose track of their goals and their mental health detereriorated.
It's what actually happened according to what all these characters explained and described, despite us being shown one incident, in which it's clear that this is common to happen among the team, with nobody rebelling against it because it's happened again & it continued happening until he was arrested. Even if it wasn't as systematic and repeated as it was explained to be, abuse is still abuse. Downplaying this is not cool.
In Alchemy of Soul's case, the geography is fictional so accents are not meant to be representing regions of the real world. Even if they were, Naksu wouldn't really know what accent Mudeok would speak in, so she would simply use one as generic as possible to convince people that she is a sold off servant.
On the other hand, if it's a competition show produced by mnet, you know that the producers will do everything they can with the questions, the wording and the editing to pity the crews and the dancers against each other. They want to have dramatic content, confrontation and disagreements make a show spicy for the masses. Besides, mnet has a really bad reputation when it comes to competition shows (see the produce 101 franchize where they rigged the results & the way the have mistreated competitors in certain cases). So most people who started watching were expecting this sort of petty storyline drawn for those who compete.
At the end of the day, it's a competition and they're gonna do anything to stay and not get eliminated, so as long as it's within the rules, when they're given any means to sabotage an opponent they are allowed to take it since it's within the competition's terms to whcih all of them agreed.
His son did not "forgive him so easily" like you said. He was in turmoil, he was hesitant, he couldn't see him face to face, he didn't want to call him or answer his calls for a long time. It took time before Deokchul talked to him about forgiving his own father in the past and how much an apology meant to him back then. He could see that this young man avoided the subject of his father for a while. It evidently bothered him and he had not moved on from what happened.
Chaerok ended up being alone with no family for a long time, which is why he needed to at least talk with his father. He yearned for that feeling of belonging somewhere. He admitted that he was envious of Seong Gwan (Deokchul's youngest son) for having a family to have these gatherings with, when they were talking on that couch in the frontyard. He was complaining about his family members, but Chaerok envied the warmth of family being together.
Once he learned that his father apologized to two of the people he hurt, instead of causing any trouble like he thought he would upon hearing his son was injured, he realized that his fatehr had remorse for his actions and was at least trying to change for the better. His father explained that he regrets hurting his players and he apologized to his son for not being there for him. From that point onwards it is up to Chaerok to decide whether he'll accept his apology, and we see him very reluctantly and slowly adapt and learn to be comfortable around his father. It doesn't happen instantly or easily.
The fact that you admittedly made assumptions interpretting what happened, doesn't mean that I made assumptions as well. I am only citing things said directly by the characters themselves, things you apparently missed. My words are not my own conclusions, it's what the writers explained through the characters' dialogue, but you probably missed those lines or perhaps the subtitles you watched didn't correctly translate what was being said. You wouldn't have understood that he only mistreated Hobeom specifically or that it only happened once, if you'd paid attention to four different characters: Chaerok, his friend, his dad, and Hobeom talking about how it used to happen often, not only to Hobeom but the rest of the team as well.
To make myself clear, I never attacked your character or called you names, so it's very rude of you to go ahead and call me pathetic. I simply pointed out the correct name, because you used the wrong name in both this comment and in other comments responding to other people. I also never once "lashed out" on you, I clarified what you seem to have misunderstood as a response to your confusion. When you post a public comment on a site thousands have access to, be prepared for people to have things to say as a response, which is something I did politely, unlike yourself.
Last but not least, as far as downplaying abuse goes, you literally said "hit one player" & "just one time". There are multiple characters narrating and explaining what happened in that team and how it affected them mentally. We know it happened more than once because they specifically say that it used to happen instead of 'it happened once'. We are also shown that happen in a quite clear way. However, you chose to ignore the fact that an adult coach used to often hit those teenagers with a baseball bat as explained, and you say that it doesn't make sense that he went to jail "just for hitting one person once"; or that the team disbanded and the players were affected with some quitting the sport. That is the definition of downplaying it, you make it seem like it's not of importance by accusing the plot and writing of not making sense, in other words saying that what happened in the story wasn't following common sense– but it does. I didn't accuse you of downplaying abuse in general & I didn't talk about your overall stance on abuse, I called out downplaying this specific case of an adult coach abusing his team's minor athletes, which he admits himself and his students testify to it.
Chaerok's friend, who was also in the team, admitted that he hated the coach for a long time as well. No, it was not "just once". He habitually abused student athletes, which is punishable by law. The punishments affected each player and the team as a whole, and he was charged for repeated physical abuse against minors.
Chaerok's dad, when he met with Hobeom after his release, explained that he got greedy and wanted to push them to their limits to reach their potential, which in turn made them lose track of their goals and their mental health detereriorated.
It's what actually happened according to what all these characters explained and described, despite us being shown one incident, in which it's clear that this is common to happen among the team, with nobody rebelling against it because it's happened again & it continued happening until he was arrested. Even if it wasn't as systematic and repeated as it was explained to be, abuse is still abuse. Downplaying this is not cool.