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I also was pulled in by the visual pairing of these two lol. I ate up all the Rueters videos that came across my TT during filming and I always just thought they just looked good together.

I also think visually they represent their characters well. To your point, Esther can pull off JM's bubbly character (which yes, can be excessively exaggerated at times) which pairs well with her feminine appearance while He Yu's more masculine appearance pairs up with JZ's more broody/serious character. It just works

I also don't know for people when they are recasting JM if they also consider the actress has to play the more childish younger JM and then the more matured 26 year old JM. I can see where it would be hard to pull off those two different arcs visually paired with the acting.

Yeah, when it comes to those sort of comments, you can say whoever might have done better at X, Y, Z, but in the end, who knows what the actual final product would have been. This is definitely a show that relied on chemistry in the end, so yeah, maybe you would have been more please JM looked more serious in so and so scene, but the overall vibes of the show could have shifted in such a way it doesn't come out as well overall.

I've seen the YSX x ZLH friendship in a couple different clips and think it's really cute! I saw some clips that also pointed out the cute interaction where they each show each other watching each other's shows (LGIEF/TBT) that YSX's photos were during the SAL shooting which is also sweet (and relevant to this thread lol).

But yeah, it's just sad that in CPs, the female tends to get the brunt of the hate. That's why seeing the comments that just hate on YSX and put are all praise for HY for SAL that pop up in here is sad. It also straight up discredits that YSX was the 1st billing in this project and why there was a decent amount of interest in this project from the get go. I think it's ok to think maybe someone else could have done X, Y, Z better, but in the end, who knows what the final product would have actually been or how much attention the drama would have gotten if things were different so it's rude to the people who actually put in the work to discredit and dismiss them. There is definitely a line between legit criticism and excessively putting women down which is why I have my fingers crossed this fandom doesn't get toxic because so far it does seem nice.

Yeah, I didn't even have to do much of a dive into CDramas to hear about how the YSX and Dylan Wang LBFAD CP fans as well as their individual fans grew very toxic and they don't really interact in public. That's just sad.

I really do hope whatever relationship YSX and HY have can remain positive BTS if nothing else and people can not be super weird to them. I really want that second pairing but can understand if it doesn't happen if it attracts a lot of toxic people.

I do think one of the positives to YSX having had various CPs since LBFAD is that it has let her get a better feel towards how to "end" a CP for both of their careers. While all the goodbye posts feel sad, I do think they are good to try to help people move on and not get weirder.

I have my fingers crossed the return on investment was good for this show especially when you consider the lack of promotion and producers/investors will really look at casting Esther and He Yu together again in the future. And yeah, may their friendship continue for a lifetime and fans don't get weird and turn things awkward for future collabs.

Oh, I like that analysis too! I definitely think upon first watch, JM's playful and childish nature can make a lot of people annoyed at her, and I honestly think part of it is the lack of development for her in the show (I think showing more of her relationship with her mom and dad as well as some more moments when she acts colder without JZ could have helped a lot with this), but when you take in JM's arc as a whole, you can appreciate her growth a lot more.

I think I commented this before, but I do like how even the viewer can dismiss JM in the beginning, but in the end, she is really the reason JM and JZ ended up together. She also had the awareness and forethought to point out to JZ that pushing her away could actually hurt her if she were to end up with someone else who turns out to be toxic.

I genuinely want to know what they were doing during that scene. It's so weird to me they filmed that elopement scene AND filmed a wedding.

I think EP 29 comes out soon for non fast pass IQIYI viewers. Could they still release the wedding as bonus content like with the BTS clips they have been doing?

I'm assuming they wanted something more overt than just staring at one another even if I thought their looks at one another early on had a lot of chemistry. If they get to the apple scene and still don't see anything idk.

I think JM’s character, especially in the beginning, wasn’t great in terms of depth, but you do see her grow more as the story progresses. The story itself I do think centers more around JZ as it does in the novel, but JM is definitely important to the story thankfully in the end. But yeah, if you’re a YSX fan, I can see where her character is disappointing in the beginning. One of my biggest gripes with the show is that they could have done more with JM, but it mostly comes together in the end and you can appreciate her role in the story even in the beginning looking back.

To answer your question, I do think the chemistry starts picking up if you think it's just stares right now. The plot also starts to come together more too.

With a name like Speed and Love, the adopted sibling premise, us immediatetly getting JZ taking out a guy like 1.5x his size, and car and motorcycle chases in episodes 1/2, I don't think this is trying to be some grand masterpiece for all to enjoy it's not. It's meant for a specific target audience and even with the flaws, it just hits home with those who get what it was going for. And if you just focus on the production, at the very least, I think it's hard to argue they didn't capture a lot of amazing shots and had some great OST/BGM choices.

My kicker is you can dislike a show/actor/actress for whatever reason you want, but when you start throwing insults at the people who do like it like I've been seeing, that's when it goes too far. Or when you start throwing attacks generalizing the show/cast for superficial reasons just to hate. The show resonated with people and is something some people genuinely love which is why there is hype. People would be so much happier if they could just focus on what they enjoy and not get so bent out of shape over things that bring other people joy.

The Lin Sui/Jin Zhao relationship is very cute 🤣

Adopted siblings. He is the son of the father’s friend who died and the father took him in. They were separated for years prior to reuniting after the parents divorced. They did still grow up together (though based on how they were raised, you could see it more as sibling like or close friends). I would say if adopted siblings in general makes you uncomfortable, this might not be the show for you.

There’s a bunch of BTS videos of different scenes that were cutout there. There’s a thread above with Reuters of some of these deleted scenes if you want to check them out.

If you’ve enjoyed it for the most part so far, I would recommend making it to episodes 19/20 and see what you think in terms of where the plot goes. That way, you at least finish up the Thailand arc since you’re close to that point. I think you get a good idea of where the story will go from there to make a judgement on whether to finish it.

Thai Sweet is 12 episodes but unfortunately He Yu had to leave in episode 6. I’m not sure why but I’ve seen a couple mentions of family emergency. More of the cast plus Zhang Bichen (sings the ending credits) join YSX and Mike in his place for the last 6 episodes.

If that's true, props to the people that picked out the OST BGM because it's a pretty great selection overall. The music definitely added to the story overall.

Yeah, I was also worried the breakup would be dragged out too, but I thought it was fairly reasonable overall in terms of length and there was still plenty of time afterwards to get in a lot of couple-y stuff.

Does anyone know if the SAL background music is unique to just SAL or are they all general snippets other shows/movies have used before?

Yeah, if not for the cast and fans, it really seems like there would not be much outside of billboards and Thai Sweet (which the cast were the ones who seemed like planned a lot of it).

Thanks. I was confused for a sec because I was like what promo and where can I watch it lol.