I get what you're saying, every scene has a point, a goal. My point is that many scenes were just overextended,…
Don't sa sorry, everyone has their own taste ! I was just trying to explain some things about this drama, in case you didn't understand. But I still kinda get what you say, even if I don't really agree with something : I, personally of course, find this drama really realistic because every scenes can happen for me. So, for you, what scenes do you think can not happen ? I'm really curious !
Sorry but you didn't understand that drama... I mean, I myself dislike when the episodes are not dynamic, slow and so on, and I dislike it more when the episodes are too long. But in this one, each scene has a meaning, each scene has an explanation. That's so rare to find that kind of production in dramas nowadays ; I mean too much dramas have fillers scenes. But this one, if you really pay attention, has a meaning for each moment. But actually, it's not a drama that you watch when you want to spend time or anything like that. It's really one piece of work that you have to watch with your brain on so you can plently enjoy it. If you want to watch a story with gay characters just for fun or anything, this one will be imperfect. But if you want to enjoy a strong production with hinds in each scene, this one is a good one. But yes, you have to keep your concentration to plently appreciate it. And it's not "complete" tho since there is a second part that will be released in May.
trust me,it's NOTHING near a rom com.Give it at least 3 episodes and drop it if you're still not feeling it
Yeah, I guessed it thanks to you watchlist ahah ! It's like you dropped some of my favorite dramas too ahah x'D I'll watch it again if I have the time and I want it at the moment. But I'll not force myself tho. It's just that, sometimes, I can't really appreciate "great dramas" because I read too much reviews about it before watching it. So, I watch them a second time and sometimes I appreciate them more than the first. But it's rare tho, but I like giving a second chance ahah And thank you for your comment, it's kind ! Sometimes when I say I don't like a drama that more people love, people begin to answer with mean/harsh comments ahah x')
there is no comedy, and mature romance that only between married couple
Since I answered this question in my another comment, I'll just quote this one "I watched it until the end but since my expectations were high because of what people told me, I was really disapointing. Too much predictable, the romance is not that mature and sometimes it's really boring. Some of the scenes are "too random" and it's like they wanted to make some fillers so they could make the drama longer... Maybe I'll watch it again with another mood. But for a first complete watching, I'm really disapointing. Sorry for that..."
trust me,it's NOTHING near a rom com.Give it at least 3 episodes and drop it if you're still not feeling it
I watched it until the end but since my expectations were high because of what people told me, I was really disapointing. Too much predictable, the romance is not that mature and sometimes it's really boring. Some of the scenes are "too random" and it's like they wanted to make some fillers so they could make the drama longer... Maybe I'll watch it again with another mood. But for a first complete watching, I'm really disapointing. Sorry for that...
He committed crimes and only his celebrity is saving him from jail. How you decide to deal with what happened…
You're the one shifting the focus since you misinterpret what I say. I never said he should not face consequences. "He would not be in this position if he hadn't done those things to begin with." it's totally dumb to say that. I mean, did you never make any mistakes ? He, at least, confessed and make public apologizes. But sorry, but I'll never agree with you.
The thing is, you think like that because he is a known celebrity. If he was your daily passerby, you'll not even blink an eye if you learn something like that.
But hey, I'm gonna end this non-ending debate here, it's just going in circle, it's going nowhere. Just saying I'll never agree with people like you, destroying someone's else present because of his past mistakes is totally something bad and awful as bullying is. I don't say he shouldn't face consequences, I just say they are not the right ones. We cancel his current life/career just because he is an actor. If he was the random neighboor, people would never even remembering this kind of story.
He committed crimes and only his celebrity is saving him from jail. How you decide to deal with what happened…
You, yes. More of the the people threaten his life. Maybe you are enough mature to not act like that, but most of the people are not. So, actually it's just cyberbullying. So, should we send all these eople in jail ?
Actually, it's just creating heinous feelings and so on. I can't see where the benefits are, even for the victims. If to gain benefits you have to do what you despise, you are not better...
He committed crimes and only his celebrity is saving him from jail. How you decide to deal with what happened…
So if someone killed someone else, will you kill them and say it's normal ? I understand your point but I can't say it's the right thing to do anyhow. It's just being as trashy as the culprit was...
He committed crimes and only his celebrity is saving him from jail. How you decide to deal with what happened…
Yeah I know, that's why I'm just talking about my opinion and experience and not others'. But wishing to destroy someone else life/career based on their past, it's still becoming a new bully.
He committed crimes and only his celebrity is saving him from jail. How you decide to deal with what happened…
Sorry but I can't believe that being as trashy as he was will make them feel better, just saying. It's beginning a new vicious circle to be honnest. But I never answered this question for them but jusy for myself, if you read correctly my sentence...
But here again, I never met someone who was happy after getting a revenge. And I'm okay with the fact they want to speak. I mean, they even HAVE TO speak. But I just can't understand people who will use that to destroy him and his career, that's my point. Even if he is an actor, wishing his death or him to lose everything he built, it's just another form of bullying.
Cuz sorry but if everyone who made past mistakes have to lose their job... Sorry but just let's all become jobless then.
My point is it's just becoming a vicious circle. And if we have to destroy someone's career because of their past... Let's do it with everyone and not just famous people.
They expose his past as a bully and a sexual harasser so of course, they knew that it will tame his career in…
They never said the allegation about sexual harrasment and so on were true, so I'm not gonna talk about it.
I was bullying for more than 18years and it was severe (still have deep depression and so on) but I'll not change my mind on what I said in my comment. I mean, even if one of my bully will become an actor, idol or ything, in the case were they really reflected on their past mistakes and if they are better people than they were and if they make people happy, I'll be happy in a certain way for them because it means that they grew up and that they became more mature and more human. So, if we are in this case, who are we to decide to destroy the present of someone because of his past ? It's just what I want to point. I really know how it is to be bullied and so on, but I will nlt change my mind about that point.
But yes, if the sexual harrasment is true, it will be another story. But here again, I can't talk about that because we don't if it's true or not.
PS : you talked about having sex in bathrooms... I guess if there was mutual consent, it's okay. I mean, if people find him disgusting for having sex in a bathroom (with mutual consent, of course), so they also have to find the girl with whom he had sex disgusting too...
That's funny but since someone just point one of his "past mistake", strangely he became the worst scumbag ever and everyone has something to tell about him... I'm sorry but I really find that unfair. Does the statemt of the "staff" was verified actually ? Plus, sorry but if we have to cancel his career because of his past... Let's all become jobless.
I also said it in the other article about him, but even if I understand the victims, I can't understand how going that far (canceling his career, maybe making false statement about him (am talking about the one in this article, saying it was from a staff member), and so on), it's being worst that he could have been during his past. Revenge, maybe wrongfully accused someone (still talking about the "staff notice"), it's just another form of bullying : he is being insulted everywhere, people wishes his death, and so on. I'm sorry but even if he had a trouble past, it's actually not a reason and it's being as bad as he was, at least. I mean, if the staff notice appears to be a false one, it will just bring "satisfaction" and not even happiness to the person who made that false statement. Is it really worth it ? Is destroying him now will erase his past ? Is doing that will make the victims feel better ? For being a former victim of bullying and sexual harrasment... The answer is no. When I see the people who harrassed me having bad moments, I can't feel better watching them being sad or anything. Even if they destroyed me in some ways, I can't feel happy when I see another human being mistreat, bully or anything.
So I'm sorry vut I'll still support him, wishing for him to continue his career and to be better person than he was in his past. I wish him and everyone too true happiness.
I agree with you. I was a victim of bullying in high school too and I hated the people who bullied me. But I don't…
I totally agree with what you said. I want to add that, if you don't want any apologize or anything, what's the point of saying it publicly ? I mean, if the victim doesn't want anything from the actor, what's the point of digging up his past, possibily destroying his career only ? I can't understand that. I mean, I can understand how a victim can feel but I can't understand the point of having a revenge like that : it's just destroying the actual life and the efforts of the person. And actually, if a victim does that, they become themselves a bully (it's what I think tho).
I just hope for everyone happiness, and that no one will be hurt because of that story.
Only 20% of thriller ? Ah, I'm more skeptical now. But like I said in another comment, I'll give it a shot anyway, even if the first episodes didn't convince me. I just hope the romance will not be annoying like I can read in the comments...
I don't say it's okay to bully someone else (I was bullied most of my life, and I know how it can be awfull and horendous). But I think that everyone deserves a new chance to make things better. And if an actor/singer/anything was a bully previously in their life : okay, but are they still a bully right now ? If they behave better, if they try to make things better and so on, I don't think we have the right to "close"/deffame/slander their career and what they are today. And yes, the victim has the right to ask for an apology (and something else if they want), but doing it in public... It's like bullying the former bully. I mean, it's a vicious circle and there is no true benefits actually.
Here again : bullying someone is really bad, it's like killing someone (I had a taste of being bullied for like more 18years so I know how it is). But here again, "bully the former bully", it's not better. I just wish for everyone to feel better and to live their life in a good way and being happy.
there is no comedy, and mature romance that only between married couple
And yes, "Come And Hug Me" was a deception for me... The plot that was good tho was wasted by cringy scenes and no character development or logical behavior... Some scenes were so random that I thought they made them just to make the drama longer...
there is no comedy, and mature romance that only between married couple
I love watching everything, I'm not watching only one kind of drama (you can see that in my watching list ahah). But the first episodes didn't convince me... But I think I'll give it a shot until the last episodes cuz people say that it gives the same vibes as "Beyond Evil" (airing drama), and since I fell in love with this one, I want to give Flower of Evil a last chance ahah. I hope there is no cringy scene... It's really something I hate on dramas. When there is romance theme, there are too many cringy scenes (in the most of drama that has romance theme/tag). So I hope you are right. I'll give it a shot, thanks !
there is no comedy, and mature romance that only between married couple
Really ? But when I read comments or reviews about this drama, more of them say that the romance takes a big place and that it's not mature but more like "boring" ? I'm just asking. I mean, I'm skeptical since the first episode doesn't really convince me (and for me, the first episode is really important to set-up the atmosphere) and since I read many comments about the "annoying" romance in the second half.
The first few scenes are really important for me to set-up the atmosphere and so on... And when I read in the comments that most of the half of the drama is focused on romance... I can't help it but being skeptical about it.
And it's not "complete" tho since there is a second part that will be released in May.
I'll watch it again if I have the time and I want it at the moment. But I'll not force myself tho. It's just that, sometimes, I can't really appreciate "great dramas" because I read too much reviews about it before watching it. So, I watch them a second time and sometimes I appreciate them more than the first. But it's rare tho, but I like giving a second chance ahah
And thank you for your comment, it's kind ! Sometimes when I say I don't like a drama that more people love, people begin to answer with mean/harsh comments ahah x')
"He would not be in this position if he hadn't done those things to begin with." it's totally dumb to say that. I mean, did you never make any mistakes ? He, at least, confessed and make public apologizes. But sorry, but I'll never agree with you.
The thing is, you think like that because he is a known celebrity. If he was your daily passerby, you'll not even blink an eye if you learn something like that.
But hey, I'm gonna end this non-ending debate here, it's just going in circle, it's going nowhere. Just saying I'll never agree with people like you, destroying someone's else present because of his past mistakes is totally something bad and awful as bullying is. I don't say he shouldn't face consequences, I just say they are not the right ones. We cancel his current life/career just because he is an actor. If he was the random neighboor, people would never even remembering this kind of story.
Actually, it's just creating heinous feelings and so on. I can't see where the benefits are, even for the victims. If to gain benefits you have to do what you despise, you are not better...
But wishing to destroy someone else life/career based on their past, it's still becoming a new bully.
But here again, I never met someone who was happy after getting a revenge. And I'm okay with the fact they want to speak. I mean, they even HAVE TO speak. But I just can't understand people who will use that to destroy him and his career, that's my point. Even if he is an actor, wishing his death or him to lose everything he built, it's just another form of bullying.
Cuz sorry but if everyone who made past mistakes have to lose their job... Sorry but just let's all become jobless then.
My point is it's just becoming a vicious circle. And if we have to destroy someone's career because of their past... Let's do it with everyone and not just famous people.
I was bullying for more than 18years and it was severe (still have deep depression and so on) but I'll not change my mind on what I said in my comment. I mean, even if one of my bully will become an actor, idol or ything, in the case were they really reflected on their past mistakes and if they are better people than they were and if they make people happy, I'll be happy in a certain way for them because it means that they grew up and that they became more mature and more human. So, if we are in this case, who are we to decide to destroy the present of someone because of his past ? It's just what I want to point. I really know how it is to be bullied and so on, but I will nlt change my mind about that point.
But yes, if the sexual harrasment is true, it will be another story.
But here again, I can't talk about that because we don't if it's true or not.
PS : you talked about having sex in bathrooms... I guess if there was mutual consent, it's okay. I mean, if people find him disgusting for having sex in a bathroom (with mutual consent, of course), so they also have to find the girl with whom he had sex disgusting too...
I also said it in the other article about him, but even if I understand the victims, I can't understand how going that far (canceling his career, maybe making false statement about him (am talking about the one in this article, saying it was from a staff member), and so on), it's being worst that he could have been during his past. Revenge, maybe wrongfully accused someone (still talking about the "staff notice"), it's just another form of bullying : he is being insulted everywhere, people wishes his death, and so on. I'm sorry but even if he had a trouble past, it's actually not a reason and it's being as bad as he was, at least. I mean, if the staff notice appears to be a false one, it will just bring "satisfaction" and not even happiness to the person who made that false statement. Is it really worth it ? Is destroying him now will erase his past ? Is doing that will make the victims feel better ? For being a former victim of bullying and sexual harrasment... The answer is no. When I see the people who harrassed me having bad moments, I can't feel better watching them being sad or anything. Even if they destroyed me in some ways, I can't feel happy when I see another human being mistreat, bully or anything.
So I'm sorry vut I'll still support him, wishing for him to continue his career and to be better person than he was in his past. I wish him and everyone too true happiness.
I just hope for everyone happiness, and that no one will be hurt because of that story.
And yes, the victim has the right to ask for an apology (and something else if they want), but doing it in public... It's like bullying the former bully. I mean, it's a vicious circle and there is no true benefits actually.
Here again : bullying someone is really bad, it's like killing someone (I had a taste of being bullied for like more 18years so I know how it is). But here again, "bully the former bully", it's not better. I just wish for everyone to feel better and to live their life in a good way and being happy.
I hope there is no cringy scene... It's really something I hate on dramas. When there is romance theme, there are too many cringy scenes (in the most of drama that has romance theme/tag). So I hope you are right. I'll give it a shot, thanks !