Love Is Better The Second Time Around, Strawberry Film, rewatch of TMS & LFLS, and SB19 contents in between π
It is like the Batman. He surely is one of the Marvel heroes.
But Batman is vastly different from all other heroes, in that Batman uses money, technology and violent to solve the problems. Not very heroic, it has that dark Gothic feels to it, aka anti-hero.
And here, "The Strawberry Film" is about teenage love, so it belongs to the romance series.
But really, we are not getting any "love", we are near the ending and no romantic moment whatsoever.
This is the landmine question that will not go away isn't it? Nothing against you, let me say it first.π€£
Really every time I'm here, this is asked.
The adaptation is not the same as the original novel.
And even then, because of the backstory, for one ZY himself is not sure of his own age. WQ age is stated at some point of the story, but there we instead don't know the age of the others. So there cannot be a 100% answer.
We just know for sure that SP is 4 to 5 years older than WQ. WQ and the sister, 5 to 10, perhaps more in the novel. The brothers, really 5+ is the safe answer.
Btw, the younger brother and his secretary has more bromance then the big brother. Ex-stalker ex, do your job and gives us some BL action please. You are still just talking.
Watch that protective bear hug, strong arms comforting the young master in distress. I swear this is the new Titanic, You jump I jump. Forget dishonest FL, set sail.ππ€£π
EP.8 This EP is weird. We can actually just skip to the ending scene. Even the sweet moments felt off in this EP.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the show overall. But here we have the perfect timing for the FL to come clean with both brothers.
And we have this not talking? Why? So one more person knows, so what? Even the events in the EP can go on just as is, with a different order.
The dialogue is not helping, they basically pledged to be honest and withhold nothing. And the entire EP, they are prepared for the secret to be revealed, but won't talk about it?
Not even halfway, reveal just part of the secret, or at least say that they have secrets that cannot be said?
Could anyone suggest dramas similar to these with forbidden relationships? Whether it's BL or non-BL, I'm open…
As for bromance in Kdrama.
"East of Eden" a classic Kdrama, very controversial ending. Well the production itself is rocky, I remember the female lead dropped out.
"Pinocchio" is another great show, the relationship is a hot mess there. It is also a major part of the plot, so just watch it first.
"Signal" and "Tunnel". Well signal isn't bromance but these two shows are compared often, with fans going which is better. Signal S2 is announced too.
"Hello Monster" well just watch it, it is great just as a mystery.
"Circle" is quite good too. Some plot holes here and there, and they crammed too much into it. It is a rare Korean Sci-Fi. The earlier EPs took place in one world, later EPs in another, and the two merged in EP.12, one episode only.
I read somewhere below that the bracelet is a token of good luck...
ZY gives cufflinks to WQ at the beginning of the EP. Yes WQ complained and asked if "that" guy get ones like these.
Before the confession and punch.
The bracelet scene, ZY found the bracelet at the door of his room when he left for the airport. Then WQ opened his door and brooded there after ZY left.
It is common for family members to give a good luck item before travel. A wish you have a safe journey gesture. It can be anything actually, like the sister actually gave instant noodles and snacks.π
To the gay community, people who do not understand us are homophobic. That might be true, but surely there is…
I can tell your age just by the comments.
I have not survived temple teachings and the church for all the righteousness they provide.
It is so easy to stand on the plateau of righteousness and condemn any and all. In the end, it is all pride and judgement.
I have learnt long enough that this is a chain of judgement. Someone has to break the cycle.
No I'm no Jesus Christ asking to be hit not only on the left cheek. But life is complicated enough, being gay does not add to it.
So we can be all defensive and okay say we are always right, so what? We will also always be the minority, that's as clear as daylight.
Now you like the dictionary so much, look up pride vs proud, tolerance, acceptance, and everything gay people liked us has been doing. Our efforts.
Not a holy crusade to be right. I can say that you are all right, and that is not the point. More importantly, how would the world change then?
Drop that gay vs. straight mentality, and everyone can live happier.
Racism is an entirely different topic. And if you must be so hateful, virtually all dating site ask you for your nationality and skin colour, so yes people have a preference on that too. To say they are all racists then people are all racists. No end to it.
So I happened to like muscular guys, omg then I'm biased against skinny people? Give me a break.
In the end, all these definitions in the dictionary are determined by the majority, now it would be really sad if that is the one gospel, because then we can just stop trying. We will never get there, period.
Wow. First-rate, feature film-level acting from the leads especially. Nice.It's been a while since I've cried…
To the gay community, people who do not understand us are homophobic.
That might be true, but surely there is a fine line between someone who is ignorant, who cannot understand, who has bias against homosexuality, and at last someone who discriminate against gay people.
SP might not be an advocate and support gay people, at the same time, he sliently accepted ZY as he is. I would not go so far as to call him an asshole. His method might not be right, but he always has the best intentions for the brothers.
WQ is in denial yes, but homophobic? He never denied ZY as a person, he only rejected the confession. Yes violence is not the right answer, but we are not on that. He wants ZY to be straight, but not for the reason that gay is wrong.
To me, denial is not the same thing as homophobia. We have asked for acceptance & tolerance for our lifetime, remember that feelings are mutual. It might be hard, but sometimes we have to tolerate first.
Btw, I'm more baffled as to why they must hide it from the sister. She is alway the progressive member of the family. The situation has come to this already, why not explain it to her?
I'm a big fan of the writing and the characters, but Qian not talking to Yuan was very, very questionable and…
The five stages of emotional acceptance β denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. (Yes this is used mostly on grief)
It is the same for most people. Just the methods are culturally different. Without going too far...
The lack of communication might be frustrating, but really if you look at it with the stages. That punch goes from denial and "straight" to silent depression. So what's next?
Actually i dint get it when sang pang said you cant like him because hes wei qian. Does that mean there not open…
I'm not disagreeing with the others.
My thoughts is that SP thinks the love between them is not mutual.
He has said many times with phrases like:
"Fruits picked from the tree off-season are not sweet"
"There is no happiness with a onesided love"
"Think about your big brother and don't be selfish"
"Find your own happiness, and let your brother find his"
So my take on it is that SP do not see a future with the two of them, so he is against it. So he works to pair WQ with the ladies.
It is important that SP is in the role of big big brother to both WQ and ZY. He silently approved ZY being gay all along, so homophobia is unlikely.
It makes more sense that SP wanted WQ to settle down, so ZY can give up, and in the end ZY can go find his happiness elsewhere. The best solution in SP mind.
What is Qian's deal with his mom? Was he sexually abused
WQ wanted to kill her at some point. He was afraid that his sister would get AIDS, strangled or stabbed by needles.
Sexually abused, once. The mom touched WQ in a sexual way, and when there was no physical response, teased WQ about it.
As for the mother, she was raped and WQ the result. Not that it justifies her actions, but WQ reminds her about the fall in life.
She was hinted to be a middle class lady, a traditional housewife. She was well educated for one, she is the one who named her children. So for her, WQ is where it everything goes sour and bitter.
I didn't come up with the hero analysis either. It has been talked about just as long as Marvel existed.
But Batman is vastly different from all other heroes, in that Batman uses money, technology and violent to solve the problems. Not very heroic, it has that dark Gothic feels to it, aka anti-hero.
And here, "The Strawberry Film" is about teenage love, so it belongs to the romance series.
But really, we are not getting any "love", we are near the ending and no romantic moment whatsoever.
So I said Anti-romance.
Really every time I'm here, this is asked.
The adaptation is not the same as the original novel.
And even then, because of the backstory, for one ZY himself is not sure of his own age. WQ age is stated at some point of the story, but there we instead don't know the age of the others. So there cannot be a 100% answer.
We just know for sure that SP is 4 to 5 years older than WQ. WQ and the sister, 5 to 10, perhaps more in the novel. The brothers, really 5+ is the safe answer.
Try to search it on your own. VPN might help you for geo-blocked contents.
It could be a Greek lyre and no one would notice. π€£π€£π€£
Be warned.
It is basically a kill em all scenarios.
Koon tortured and killed his boyfriend and Vit, chopping of body part, bloody crazy.
Drowned the nephew, then killed himself (the delusion: the whisper of the ghost) in a car crash.
Watch that protective bear hug, strong arms comforting the young master in distress. I swear this is the new Titanic, You jump I jump. Forget dishonest FL, set sail.ππ€£π
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the show overall. But here we have the perfect timing for the FL to come clean with both brothers.
And we have this not talking? Why? So one more person knows, so what? Even the events in the EP can go on just as is, with a different order.
The dialogue is not helping, they basically pledged to be honest and withhold nothing. And the entire EP, they are prepared for the secret to be revealed, but won't talk about it?
Not even halfway, reveal just part of the secret, or at least say that they have secrets that cannot be said?
"East of Eden" a classic Kdrama, very controversial ending. Well the production itself is rocky, I remember the female lead dropped out.
"Pinocchio" is another great show, the relationship is a hot mess there. It is also a major part of the plot, so just watch it first.
"Signal" and "Tunnel". Well signal isn't bromance but these two shows are compared often, with fans going which is better. Signal S2 is announced too.
"Hello Monster" well just watch it, it is great just as a mystery.
"Circle" is quite good too. Some plot holes here and there, and they crammed too much into it. It is a rare Korean Sci-Fi. The earlier EPs took place in one world, later EPs in another, and the two merged in EP.12, one episode only.
To say dubious consent is going lightly on it.
Before the confession and punch.
The bracelet scene, ZY found the bracelet at the door of his room when he left for the airport. Then WQ opened his door and brooded there after ZY left.
It is common for family members to give a good luck item before travel. A wish you have a safe journey gesture. It can be anything actually, like the sister actually gave instant noodles and snacks.π
I have not survived temple teachings and the church for all the righteousness they provide.
It is so easy to stand on the plateau of righteousness and condemn any and all. In the end, it is all pride and judgement.
I have learnt long enough that this is a chain of judgement. Someone has to break the cycle.
No I'm no Jesus Christ asking to be hit not only on the left cheek. But life is complicated enough, being gay does not add to it.
So we can be all defensive and okay say we are always right, so what? We will also always be the minority, that's as clear as daylight.
Now you like the dictionary so much, look up pride vs proud, tolerance, acceptance, and everything gay people liked us has been doing. Our efforts.
Not a holy crusade to be right. I can say that you are all right, and that is not the point. More importantly, how would the world change then?
Drop that gay vs. straight mentality, and everyone can live happier.
Racism is an entirely different topic. And if you must be so hateful, virtually all dating site ask you for your nationality and skin colour, so yes people have a preference on that too. To say they are all racists then people are all racists. No end to it.
So I happened to like muscular guys, omg then I'm biased against skinny people? Give me a break.
In the end, all these definitions in the dictionary are determined by the majority, now it would be really sad if that is the one gospel, because then we can just stop trying. We will never get there, period.
It is like BTS, promotional videos and stuffs like that. You may like the extra things, you may not.
If they call it "Big Brother", it sounds like a reality show.
So my take on it is that they chose unknown to fit with the theme song. Most Taiwanese BLs do that.
That might be true, but surely there is a fine line between someone who is ignorant, who cannot understand, who has bias against homosexuality, and at last someone who discriminate against gay people.
SP might not be an advocate and support gay people, at the same time, he sliently accepted ZY as he is. I would not go so far as to call him an asshole. His method might not be right, but he always has the best intentions for the brothers.
WQ is in denial yes, but homophobic? He never denied ZY as a person, he only rejected the confession. Yes violence is not the right answer, but we are not on that. He wants ZY to be straight, but not for the reason that gay is wrong.
To me, denial is not the same thing as homophobia. We have asked for acceptance & tolerance for our lifetime, remember that feelings are mutual. It might be hard, but sometimes we have to tolerate first.
Btw, I'm more baffled as to why they must hide it from the sister. She is alway the progressive member of the family. The situation has come to this already, why not explain it to her?
We get you, you are certainly not here to promote BDSM, leather wears, and toys. π
It is the same for most people. Just the methods are culturally different. Without going too far...
The lack of communication might be frustrating, but really if you look at it with the stages. That punch goes from denial and "straight" to silent depression. So what's next?
Acceptance.π€£π€£π€£π€£
My thoughts is that SP thinks the love between them is not mutual.
He has said many times with phrases like:
"Fruits picked from the tree off-season are not sweet"
"There is no happiness with a onesided love"
"Think about your big brother and don't be selfish"
"Find your own happiness, and let your brother find his"
So my take on it is that SP do not see a future with the two of them, so he is against it. So he works to pair WQ with the ladies.
It is important that SP is in the role of big big brother to both WQ and ZY. He silently approved ZY being gay all along, so homophobia is unlikely.
It makes more sense that SP wanted WQ to settle down, so ZY can give up, and in the end ZY can go find his happiness elsewhere. The best solution in SP mind.
Sexually abused, once. The mom touched WQ in a sexual way, and when there was no physical response, teased WQ about it.
As for the mother, she was raped and WQ the result. Not that it justifies her actions, but WQ reminds her about the fall in life.
She was hinted to be a middle class lady, a traditional housewife. She was well educated for one, she is the one who named her children. So for her, WQ is where it everything goes sour and bitter.