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Then I don't get what you are trying to convey, our different ways of perceiving things. But as SwissLotus said they lack emotional intimacy, to which Tichi replied that they have dom/brat relationship, then here dom/brat for Payu/Rain is kept in negative sense. And like you are saying it is textbook type with psychological aspect, then Payu as his boyfriend also elder to him, cares and protects him in many ways, which doesn't necessarily have to mean it is dom/brat. When someone misses presence of emotions even when we see Payu called 'dom' come running to console a crying Rain and call him into his arms to comfort and listen to him, is where the point is missing. This is emotional bonding between them, we cannot in order to figure out negativity everywhere have to mar the flow of emotions which happens here between the two. The question was also raised on Payu being trustworthy? Then what kind of untrustworthy 'dom' person distances himself to make his love responsible towards life. This is height of emotional commitment at Payu's end, where he keeps his feelings aside for the good of Rain, which Rain trusts and works hard to be by Payu's side. My point is why do we have to curb the good again and again to coin this care and emotions between them as taming. Indeed the writers did a good job portraying Payu as a character who is serious but knows when to hold Rain in his arms and when to distance himself for the betterment of Rain, but always there for him. Someone serious, organized and guiding his partner doesn't imply that he is trying to dominate, Payu with his quiet nature is always there for all, family, colleagues, friends or love.

Since you haven’t watched the entire series, probably you are talking about Payu. I get it, the character Payu has insecurities of failed relations, but the way he approached Rain was totally wrong. Rain indeed looks at him a lot and holds his hands. Rain even agrees to follow Payu home, instead of asking a drop at own home, even after Payu puts- want my attention do it better next time. Payu misunderstands all of this as happens around, the mutual attraction which is taken further between two strangers if desired. Rain does it all innocently, he rejects Payu’s advances. Payu thinks Rain is playing hard to get after giving all the attention, but with Rain’s breaking free he understands the no and asks Rain to stay back given bad weather. Payu doesn’t take any advantage, instead he realizes Rain being different is the one he likes. I find the washroom scene following next objectionable too, although you will see Rain struggling with Payu’s handsome face for some time now, gives in to his touches. But Payu stops, even though Rain continues to be lost in his touch and doesn’t take it any further. Here compared to TharnType, Payu understands no and stops without taking things further. Rain seems to get it too, as he keeps coming to Payu or stays over, and none time Payu takes advantage. But wrong is wrong, and as the character develops like we see in other series, Payu himself actualizes the immaturity in Rain and slows down to let Rain come to him. He gets aside so that Rain can focus on his life, but remains by his side hugging him when Rain cries or guiding him regarding assignments. If you watch you will see how their relationship advances and the couple Pai-Sky. As for Eclipse I haven’t watched all episodes, I am watching it, I like it too. But somewhere I feel to revolt against corrupt is right, but why bring debate of outfit in young minds? Let them grow first so that they can fund themselves, not all have steady backgrounds.

There is also another series where I saw two people decide to try it out for sometime, where one says you do something nicely, the other takes it as so you like me. One says again like you as a friend but the other takes it as no you like me more than a friend. Though the other keeps asking are you fine, he keeps getting on top only to be shut stop. Then aren't there this series where one does with someone intoxicated or how one is kidnapped and tortured mercilessly and we see them as couple, last one as in questionable stockholm syndrome. In another one we see drunken make-out, another irresponsible action often coined as angst, while still being in a relation and not clearing out with either one. Mame guess is not alone, to me her and all other series with similar controversial content portray equally toxic relations, highly confusing.

Also it is not only about Payu or Pai, flawed characters are there in many series. Talk about being mutually interested, so one is continuously followed and kept tracked of to make him to stay in other's house, whereas the one has no knowledge of the other and doesn't want to do it in the first place. Then angst depiction of drink make out with regrets, and continuing with two people without clearing either out. Again in another series we see taking advantage of someone drugged, to manipulating, using and killing people for selfish reasons. Also kidnap, torture to love, Stockholm syndrome? In a recent one, they decide to give each other time, but again and again, like as in a quality or as friend becomes no you like me and the person gets on top to be shut by the other. These and in many more we see such questionable characters, where the character develops and people admire the series. Then why is Mame cornered, when wrong putting disputable content in front of audience, then shouldn't all others be questioned too and requested the same?

As because such things happen around based on magnetism between strangers, that Payu misunderstands Rain's attentions. He thinks Rain is playing hard to get, but when Rain breaks free he understands the no kept and asks Rain to stay back and no he does not take advantage. He doesn't intent to, he realizes Rain is different and confesses liking him. As this approach was wrong, so was Payu getting close to Rain in washroom, but even when Rain gives in and remains lost in his touch when the other boys leave, Payu stops and does not take it further. He eventually grasps that Rain is not that mature, he slows down and stays away from Rain so that Rain can organize his life responsibly. But throughout he remains by his side, hugging him, listening to him or guiding him details to be better. We see Rain's focus to work hard is Payu praising him, that's some relationship goal. Falling for Rain changes Payu, like he conveys in the song, he wants to be happy only with Rain like a married couple. He keeps checks when to bow down and not keep self-respect so that he can protect himself and Rain, else he is strong and laborious. Pai's action is also highly questionable, but then Pai changes too, and we see Payu and Pai stay wide awake at night to help their respective love complete assignments in time.

Faulted characters are there in other series too, but there the characters improve with plot development. Why is there so much hate surrounding Payu? If wrong, then all such characters are completely unacceptable, including Payu.

Or are you guys talking about when Payu hits him? Yes hitting is not done, the right thing would have been some other step. But Payu did not do any of it for BDSM fun or to amuse himself venting anger, he was too scared to lose his more important Rain and wanted Rain to understand desperately the danger Rain put himself into. Else Payu is rich, but not powerful against a client he has. He himself is very calculating maintaining work professionally. Rain's stubbornness brought theirs lives in the verge of death, which would go untraced. If Rain was just an element of amusement in his life, someone he just desires to toys with, I don't think he would risk his own life to save him, he would rather just stand by and see whatever happens to a toy without giving a damn. It was because he cared for Rain above his own life, and because it was a matter of life and death that he ended up acting that way, else he wouldn't and wouldn't need to repeat ever again. He guards Rain who is innocent, but why would a boy-toy be so important to him that he cares for his future, takes him out on date, seeks a serious relation or among many admirers wants only his faithfulness. Payu understands when Rain needs space to talk with Sky or why he did not receive his calls, that's also maturity in relationship without unwanted jealousy or anger.

BDSM relationship? When does such action take place, their love making is as sweet as possible between them. Payu is a bit serious type, meticulous in work and life approaches but always there for others whether his juniors at college or colleagues at work. Same for Rain, if he had to toy with him, why come running to hold him in his arms to listen him crying, this isn't emotional bonding? If Payu's intention were only to toy, why would he stay away from Rain so that Rain focuses more on his life and becomes responsible. If he only had to toy, he wouldn't care if Rain is doing well in studies, he wouldn't want a serious relationship with him, where he stays awake at night to help him with Rain's assignment. How we see a character is ofcourse our own's perception, but while comprehending can we see these sides of Payu as well.