Not a Robot

Thank you. I wouldn't mind preordering if it will help fund the translation.

Both Knock and Korn were cheaters in that situation. Korn was the one cheating with Knock, and he knew Knock had a girlfriend. I'm not trying to justify Knock's or Korn's previous behavior, but I think the two relationships were at different levels. I love that Korn is getting it hard from Knock right now, but if Korn doesn't run to other guys "for comfort", and tries to do his best, I can see them working it out. Knock just needs to be alone to decide if he wants to give him that chance.

I thought that Ae may have been asexual because most young men get the physcal reaction way earlier than the emotionaL, but demisexual is more accurate.

Knock cheated on his new girlfriend, with Korn.

Thank you for the novel spoilers. When it is available, I will purchase the English version.

Thanks for the novel spoilers. Does Pete stay loyal to Ae or does he allow his defeat to make him get another boyfriend?

Since the director owns the screen rights, he can shorten the amount of episodes where they are apart and do a time adjustment.

I don't think so but with this season's plotlines, who knows. I was hoping that Knock is Pete's goal and that Knock tells Pete that he needs to stop. Since Korn's cheating brought the twisted side of me out, I'm also hoping that Jay is secretly in love with Pete, and that's why he's so hostile to Korn and Knock. We'll see next week.

Don't hate me, but I was hoping that Pete's true target is Knock and that Korn is just collateral damage. I still don't know if that's the case, but we'll see next week. I agree about Cho, I wonder if he wants to take his own advice concerning Yihwa.

Knock's mood change is because he did something liberating and he felt great and it showed in his behavior. Korn pushing money on Knock is also a behavior change, due to guilt and shame. I think the writers have written Knock to be such a loser that Korn had to be the partner to fall from grace. Remember that Knock swam across that river for Korn - he is willing to make ultimate sacrifices for Korn, but Korn doesn't reciprocate. He just gives money and enables bad behavior.

They will end up together because they will prove that they are the couple who can survive infidelity. If the writers take a smart pill, they will make up, then do a time jump so that the viewers know they've been working on their relationship.

I think that we can discuss and disagree civiIly. I agree about Wanawan, but I disagree that about Korn. He deserved every bit of what Knock (just him, not Wanwan or the dad) gave him. I love how Korn didn't answer Knock's question about it being okay for Knock to cheat since it was only sex. He also didn't answer Knock's question about is this the way he will solve problems in the future. I give credit to Korn that he didn't lie when Knock asked the question, but it was also obvious that Knock did not see that coming from Korn either.

Knock has been distant because he has been marginalized by Korn. So Knock took action to make their relationship solid by coming out and proving to Korn that he is worth the risk. That's why he was so happy and it showed in his behavior. Sometimes accomplishing something, especially for the person you love can make you the happiest.

I also give major acting kudos to Max, because being the villain for the first time in this 2 year run must have been a challenge. Knock has always been the "bad" partner, so this must have been strange for both of them. It will work out in the end, but Korn better answer Knock's 2 questions.

It's crazy to me too, but your Japanese friend must have his reasons. Maybe they have health problems or maybe they know, but like I said, everybody is pretending for the sake of each other, just like Korn's father knows the truth. If they come to the states every three years, they must be asking why he isn't married, why he doesn't have a girlfriend, etc. The difference is, he and his husband made this decision as a couple and it works for them. I hope that he tells his parents someday because maybe they will love his husband. Or at least start with "roommate" so that they get to know him. I believe that most parents just want their child to be happy. That's why I give Knock credit for coming out to both of his parents at one time. He could have lost both, but he was willing to take that risk.

I read your reply upthread and I'm glad that your gay Korean friend hasn't gone home to marry a woman. I just hope that he has legal status to stay in the states so that he doesn't have to go back to be pressured. Yes, there are people who live in the closet, but I have never seen anybody kick their partner out to accommodate their family, or arrange a fake girlfriend. In Asian cultures we also have a concept where we all know what the truth is, but do not speak it. Like when I smoked, I never did it in front of my family, but I'm sure they could smell it on me. That's how some semi-opaque gay closets are.

You're right about the high drama, but it seems like lazy drama as well. I'm glad that you're enjoying the drama. I will too if Knock rips Korn's shirt pocket during their tussle and he throws Korn's ring at him.

People would be just as upset with Knock because Korn is the "nice guy" in this series. Actually, I think that people would be more upset because Knock knows that Korn has been cheated on before and Knock is written as lazy and childish. I'm not going to lie, but I'm somewhat surprised by how upset the fans are since these are fictional characters. I think that it's partly because they have the fan meets and fan services, so fans are more invested emotionally than in other countries where we don't have access to our celebrities. I enjoy the discussions, but I didn't leave a bad review and will continue to watch, although no longer care if the couples break up.

The writers are at fault because they had great material for drama (Farm's sexual assault and sexism toward Fai) and show adult solutions for adult situations while planning a wedding for people still in the closet. Just my opinion.

I think that Farm was using the bathroom but saw Bright in the stall. I don't think that Farm was there to hook up.

Knock was wrong to cheat with Korn, but PP was cheating on Knock with that other guy (I can't remember his name) too! The writers didn't make PP a sympathetic character, she was a user who would use violence to get her way. In contrast, the TWM writers established that Knock and Korn had been in friends since childhood, giving them history. Other differences between Knock cheating is that he was in a 1 month relationship with her, they were not living together, and they were not engaged. So basically Korn jeopardized an almost lifetime relationship because Knock pulled back sex because he was emotionally hurt. The writers really messed this up.

1. No. I've seen comments about Knock cutting off sex and pressuring Korn to come out, but Korn marginalized Knock by asking him to leave the apartment, to hide their relationship, then kept pressuring Knock for sex like nothing ever happened. There are people in the world who do not want to have sex if their partner seems to marginalize them and disregard their feelings. Korn took Knock for granted, thinking that he could treat him however he wants, then still expected sex. Because Knock has been written as a ne'er do well, he is being blamed. I blame Knock for his share of the relationship difficulties, but not for Korn taking his pants off and having sex. We saw the scene, it was a process from the sofa to the bed.
2. No way. Once you break trust, it's over. If this is how Korn handles stress and pressure, he will do it again. Knock doesn't have time to check GPS, go through his phone and then go on every business trip with him just in case he drinks and he hasn't been the perfect partner. Knock should throw the ring at him as he leaves. He can go back to get his things later. I'm sure that Korn will be at Pete's, since that's how he handles stress and pressure. (I'm being a little sarcastic and tongue in cheek haha). But seriously, no.

I can't wait for the novel to be translated so that I can read it. Pete going to the beach would have been way better than the face time that we got. I'm not sure why they changed it. I also wanted to see who Sun was since Ae didn't want him to meet Pete.

Episode 14 is the definition of bittersweet with this episode being open ended, and the announcement that New will not direct season 2. If there hadn't been the behind the scenes drama, I would be anxiously waiting for Season 2 for Tin Can resolution, and Type/Tharn. As for Ep 14, although I would have preferred that Ae overcome his jealousy and invite Pete on the trip, it was nice to see that a young, and crazy in love couple can spend a few days away from one another. Maybe next time, Pete will join them.

Maybe after Perth turns 18, director New can reconsider. I hope that the managers learn that their behavior cost their clients an almost guaranteed paycheck, with a big pay increase. Although the manager apologized, his client is now a risk. I'm not familiar with the Thai entertainment industry, but it seems a little like the old Hollywood studio system. If New will not reconsider, we may end up with a 2 Moons 2 situation.

@bakkao
Some of the viewers are saying, no relationship is perfect, and this is real life, but sexual assault and sexism are real life too.

I'm not sure who the writers are, but I assumed that since this is supposed to be by fan request (I'm not Thai, cannot read Thai, so I'm going by what the boards are saying), that this is an original story.

This is a fictional story, with fictional characters and is just a show, but like many others, I developed a liking for the characters. Now, I just want to watch Knock break up with Korn (in the preview) so that I can make sassy side comments, instead hoping that everything will turn out okay.

Since we're still talking about this, I thought about how the front office (writers/director/producers) could have inserted real life in without all this cheating and crying. This may be boring to some, but it would be about adult life.

1. Subplot on Fai not getting an engineering job because she's a woman.
Challenge: Writers would need to figure out how to talk about corporate sexism without upsetting the potential sponsors.
2. Plot on Farm recognizing that he was sexually assaulted and that his sexual behavior MAY be due to unaddressed trauma, and working on it.
3. Subplot on Dr. Bright recognizing that he coerced Farm into that group sex party and apologizing (not saying, "you're still mad?") and as a medical doctor acknowledge that it was sexual assault.
4. Instead of being selfish, both Korn and Knock work together on how they plan to tell their parents about their relationship. Since they are allegedly engaged, shouldn't they be working on wedding plans? Knock tells Korn (and Korn listens) that when Korn marginalizes him, he doesn't want to get sexual. Korn tells Knock (and Knock listens), that he needs to help more around that house and he will no longer enable him. They both will still mess up, but at least they will be showing how a couple who hasn't communicated in 2 years, learn to communicate.

I think that the fan meets will be a little awkward after this season. I thought this season would be wedding planning, Korn being a Bridezilla and their friends along for the ride. The sad part is, due to the plots (cheating, cheating and cheating) this season, I'm not rooting for any of these couples and could care less if they stay together or not. The real let down is that the writers/director/producers have caused me not to care about these characters anymore; we've had a break-up. I will continue to watch, but it will be like the Rocky Horror Picture Show with me making my side comments.

By angst I mean cheating or constant rejection while dating other people. I will add it to my library. I read a lot of fan fiction and BL fiction, as well as manga. About the only thing that I don't read is fetish or K-Pop BL, because I'm pretty vanilla and I don't like ship real people, just characters.

As for TWM, I can be flexible because Shirotani/Kurose's relationship would be unethical in my country (dr/patient sexual relationship), but I can still read the story. I will continue to say if the writers wanted to be reality-based, they should have had Farm explore his sexual assault trauma. Even the women in the story don't talk about it which I find unusual. Maybe that's a cultural difference?