Something similar happened in the British 1990's film "Get Real" with a different response. I'm glad that things…
I really liked it because even though it was ****spoilers***** bittersweet, when someone refuses to remain in the closet, it's a victory, even if the relationship may not survive. Get Real was released 20 years ago, so it may have been a different movie today. It has the realism (bullying, closeted married men, meeting at the toilets in a small town) but also shows the struggle of being in the closet, especially when you're the golden boy.
Okay. I just watched Ep. 7 again. In that scene, Korn was seriously flirting with Pete just before they started…
I agree. Korn can handle his alcohol, it's Knock who can't. In TWM, Bright made a pass at Korn and Korn pushed Bright off and punched him and both of them were drunk. That night, Farm ended up with Bright. That's why I didn't buy the Korn was drunk excuse. Korn had comer's regret and asked Pete not to tell Knock.
Okay. I just watched Ep. 7 again. In that scene, Korn was seriously flirting with Pete just before they started…
I agree. Korn can handle his alcohol, it's Knock who can't. In TWM, Bright made a pass at Korn and Korn pushed Bright off and punched him and both of them were drunk. That night, Farm ended up with Bright. That's why I didn't buy the Korn was drunk excuse. Korn had comer's regret and asked Pete not to tell Knock.
I'm honestly curious, why are people ok with Knock forgiving Korn for what he did but not Cho forgiving Yihwa.…
Everybody should breakup and move on, but that isn't going to happen. I didn't see Korn getting a pass, on this board, I saw the opposite. Many people want Korn and Knock to break up, but we know this series is their story. and know it isn't going to happen. I did see rationalization of "realism" but even some of those people want them to break up.
The difference is that Yihwa had an ongoing affair (started as emotional) while Korn had a one night stand. Cho has always been considerate boyfriend and treated her kindly, while Knock has been written as an immature, lazy boyfriend. I give credit to Yihwa for breaking up with Cho though. Also, the Yihwa story is the same old hetero melodrama with the older, powerful man, seducing the younger, innocent female subordinate. The seducer becoming more aggressive and somewhat obsessed. Who will she choose? Viewers have been complaining about this type of lazy writing all season.
This season had potential to be about couples sticking together through adversity but ended up such a letdown. The acting this season has been great and they really deserved better storylines.
I like your predictions. I would be interested in hearing your predictions about the other messy couples. Korn…
Thanks for the predictions. I will still be upset with Korn because in TWM, a drunk Korn was able to resist Bright and he wasn't even engaged to Knock. This season he sleeps with Pete, the boss, while engaged to Knock. We still haven't seen the dog that's in the publicity stills, so that remains in the future.
I hope that Yihwa realizes how overbearing Art is. In reality, a lot of young women think that an older, possessive, successful guy being so forward is the fairy tale. Yihwa used to be smarter than that, but we'll see. It would be breaking the girl code if Fai got together with Cho, but Yihwa cheating would justify it for Fai and Cho.
As the older man, I hope that Bright releases Farm to be happy. Since Rit and Farm are in all the fan services, they will probably end up together.
Since this season only as 3 episodes left, I have to say that this board has some of the most impressive BL viewers around, and I've enjoyed reading the comments. I've been more entertained here than by drama itself. Thanks everybody!
First and foremost, the majority of comments here are hate the script-writer for coming up a ridiculous story…
It's true that Yihwa had a physical and emotional affair. Cho has already told her that he will forgive her and I felt really bad for him. It's ironic that Korn comforted him.
We still don't know what Rit talked to Bright about in episode 9, so that's still a mystery. It looks like Farm is worried about the doctor expoiting Rit, but we'll have to wait and see.
Jay is a homophobe, but if his only exposure to gay men is his workplace, I can see why he is so ignorant. Like Jay's friend told Korn, "One guy in the afternoon, another guy in the evening." I'm not sure this is the "realism" that peole want to justify and rationalize. This adds "proof" for people like Jay and Korn's dad.
First and foremost, the majority of comments here are hate the script-writer for coming up a ridiculous story…
It's true that Yihwa had a physical and emotional affair. Cho has already told her that he will forgive her and I felt really bad for him. It's ironic that Korn comforted him.
We still don't know what Rit talked to Bright about in episode 9, so that's still a mystery. It looks like Farm is worried about the doctor expoiting Rit, but we'll have to wait and see.
Jay is a homophobe, but if his only exposure to gay men is his workplace, I can see why he is so ignorant. Like Jay's friend told Korn, "One guy in the afternoon, another guy in the evening." I'm not sure this is the "realism" that peole want to justify and rationalize. This adds "proof" for people like Jay and Korn's dad.
I come for the comments. I stay for the comments. @bakaao, I like the idea of trying to guess the ending because…
I like your predictions. I would be interested in hearing your predictions about the other messy couples. Korn and Knock will have a happy ending because Knock will have the epiphany. We only saw one PDA sequence with them but it was a dream where we had to witness Korn x Pete doing it in reality. It would have softened the cheating had the director thought to cut in flashback scenes of Korn and Knock being lovey dovey. Remind us who we are rooting for!
I wanted to add that after the shoulder massage while peeing in the urinal (Thunder TV trailer), I hope that Cho is at HR reporting Pete instead of being at the hospital waiting room. For being the straight guy, he's the only one who recognises a come on.
Pete is the person who put the wrong oil in the machine. That company's safety protocols are out of whack. You need hardhats but you walk around with an open bottle of oil. Plus they aren't wearing safety glasses.
I hope that Knock finds a job at Ocean Electric with Arthit or Siam Polymer working the Kongpob's dad.
I come for the comments. I stay for the comments. @bakaao, I like the idea of trying to guess the ending because…
I like this prediction. I just wanted to add that Cho may turn Pete in for sexual harrassment after receiving the shoulder massage while peeing in the urinal (it's in the TV Thunder preview on YT). I noticed that Cho isn't in the waiting room at the hosptial when Korn's parents arrive. Hopefully he is at HR filing a grievance against Pete. I also think that Pete put the wrong oil in the machine to set Jay up. Of course Dr. Bright is working to save Korn. I guess that Korn's sister is gone for good as well as Phubet since they aren't at the hospital.
What I hope doesn't happen is that Cho "gives" Yihwa to Art and tells him to take care of her and make her happy becaue she deserves to be happy.
I'm not sure what will happen with Farm and Bright. The writers missed a great opportunity for Bright to atone properly for thinking that he had a blank check when Farm agreed to an open relationship. It would be nice to show an age-gap couple since most BL is about younger men.
I would like to hear your predictions on FxBxR and YxC.
Fai was a breath of fresh air calling Yihwa a slut one minute, then making sure she had something to eat and drink. That's how female relationships are sometimes. We call each other out, but that doesn't change that we love each other, Fai is just disappointed, but she still loves all of her friends. Even when Farm tried to give her a low blow about being perpetually single, she still let him have it. I guess she is the toned down Yihwa of this season.
I can't help but be sad about this season. In TWM, Korn was able to put off Bright's sexual advances and he was drunk at that time too, but he succumbs to Pete's. Maybe it's because TWM was based on a novel and the author wrote Korn to be a guy who won't cheat. Sadly, we had only one PDA scene with K&K and it was a dream sequence, while we had to experience Korn x Pete in reality. If they had shown lovey dovey K&K flashbacks, it may have toned down the feelings the views had about Korn cheating. I do like that Pete is the Plern Pleng in this series because oftentimes women are relegated to the evil spoiler in BL series.
I come for the comments. I stay for the comments. @bakaao, I like the idea of trying to guess the ending because…
I like this prediction. I just wanted to add that Cho may turn Pete in for sexual harrassment after receiving the shoulder massage while peeing in the urinal (it's in the TV Thunder preview on YT). I noticed that Cho isn't in the waiting room at the hosptial when Korn's parents arrive. Hopefully he is at HR filing a grievance against Pete. I also think that Pete put the wrong oil in the machine to set Jay up. Of course Dr. Bright is working to save Korn. I guess that Korn's sister is gone for good as well as Phubet since they aren't at the hospital.
What I hope doesn't happen is that Cho "gives" Yihwa to Art and tells him to take care of her and make her happy becaue she deserves to be happy.
I'm not sure what will happen with Farm and Bright. The writers missed a great opportunity for Bright to atone properly for thinking that he had a blank check when Farm agreed to an open relationship. It would be nice to show an age-gap couple since most BL is about younger men.
I would like to hear your predictions on FxBxR and YxC.
Fai was a breath of fresh air calling Yihwa a slut one minute, then making sure she had something to eat and drink. That's how female relationships are sometimes. We call each other out, but that doesn't change that we love each other, Fai is just disappointed, but she still loves all of her friends. Even when Farm tried to give her a low blow about being perpetually single, she still let him have it. I guess she is the toned down Yihwa of this season.
I can't help but be sad about this season. In TWM, Korn was able to put off Bright's sexual advances and he was drunk at that time too, but he succumbs to Pete's. Maybe it's because TWM was based on a novel and the author wrote Korn to be a guy who won't cheat. Sadly, we had only one PDA scene with K&K and it was a dream sequence, while we had to experience Korn x Pete in reality. If they had shown lovey dovey K&K flashbacks, it may have toned down the feelings the views had about Korn cheating. I do like that Pete is the Plern Pleng in this series because oftentimes women are relegated to the evil spoiler in BL series.
I understand and appreciate the anger many fans are displaying about the cheating but so many people, in real…
I think that you have brought up an intelligent discussion, but this series was marketed as two guys who fall in love and are supposed to be in a monogamous relationship. I'm not a gay man, but have been around gay men and have seen the bathroom action, have not been able to pee because some dude is in there, and guys making out when they just met. But as somebody who has been drunk before and have had drunk friends, that is usually a lame excuse used the next morning after regretting what they've done. Even if it is the drunk excuse, this series shows the constant gay male stereotypes of being obsessed with sex, (toilet sex, rent boys, older predatory queens, drunken sex, promiscuity) just to prove to people like Jay and Korn's dad that all gay men are driven by their crotch, even the good guys.
I agree that some gay male images have been sexual and body shaming is a another gay male issue. I guess that I just believe that most gay men discuss their relationships and come to an agreement. Women flash their breasts for some 10 cent beads at Mari Gras, but most women don't flash their breasts, at home for those same beads. If they are caught in a photo and their partner does not agree, it will lead to an argument, but some partners are okay with it. Yes, some couples have an open relationship that work for them. If Korn was obsessed with Knock cheating on him, the relationship was not open. That's why Knock asked the rhetorical question.
I think that the writers manipulated a mostly female audience into thinking that this was the couple who were going to fight together, then one of them falls for the oldest trick in the book, a free piece of ass. BL is a mostly female driven industry (look at the fan meets, it isn't loaded with men) and women want the happy ending. from our characters. Women want men who do not cheat, even when drunk and we can't stand when our friends cheat. We've held too many of our friend's hands in the aftermath of cheating. Most women don't watch BL for heterosexual relationships, which is probably why Yihwa's situation is not as analyzed on the boards, even though women can't stand Yihwa this season. To be honest, I fast forward through many of her scenes.
I'm enjoying the discussion that's been going on. Most are well thought out even if I don't necessarily agree.
@blacksky1263 Thanks for your insightful addition to my previous post. I think the writer portrayed Korn as the…
Korn would have dumped Knock just like he dumped Mew and would not give Mew a second chance. Only Korn gets to be selfish in this series. The reason they had Korn cheat is because he is "good" and will be forgiven.
I wonder if the writers are even LGBTQI+ and therefore don't feel a connection to or responsibility for how the…
If there are any writers from the community, they may have internalized heterosexism due to oppression. Some BL writers tend to not show the positive side of relationships and viewers use the "real life" tag to rationalize it. Maybe people aren't around enough gay people to know that gay couples in committed (some agree to be open which is not cheating) relationships, and not all gay men are sex addicts. The bully Jay didn't like that they brought sex to the job, reinforcing his homophobic point of view. TWMTNC could have been like History Right or Wrong where the couple deals with real issues, but there is also a little girl who is exposed to a loving healthy relationship to the point she tells her classmates that her 2 dads are coming to see her perform. Until homophobia declines, realistic positive images should also be shown.
I'm not so sure that Bright and Farm end up together. All of the fan meet stuff is Farm x Rit.
Cho should not wait around for Yihwa to make up her mind. Since she's still so torn, he should let her go. Take off the ring and move on.
I'll miss the comments more than the series. Sorry to see this come to an end.
The difference is that Yihwa had an ongoing affair (started as emotional) while Korn had a one night stand. Cho has always been considerate boyfriend and treated her kindly, while Knock has been written as an immature, lazy boyfriend. I give credit to Yihwa for breaking up with Cho though. Also, the Yihwa story is the same old hetero melodrama with the older, powerful man, seducing the younger, innocent female subordinate. The seducer becoming more aggressive and somewhat obsessed. Who will she choose? Viewers have been complaining about this type of lazy writing all season.
This season had potential to be about couples sticking together through adversity but ended up such a letdown. The acting this season has been great and they really deserved better storylines.
I hope that Yihwa realizes how overbearing Art is. In reality, a lot of young women think that an older, possessive, successful guy being so forward is the fairy tale. Yihwa used to be smarter than that, but we'll see. It would be breaking the girl code if Fai got together with Cho, but Yihwa cheating would justify it for Fai and Cho.
As the older man, I hope that Bright releases Farm to be happy. Since Rit and Farm are in all the fan services, they will probably end up together.
We still don't know what Rit talked to Bright about in episode 9, so that's still a mystery. It looks like Farm is worried about the doctor expoiting Rit, but we'll have to wait and see.
Jay is a homophobe, but if his only exposure to gay men is his workplace, I can see why he is so ignorant. Like Jay's friend told Korn, "One guy in the afternoon, another guy in the evening." I'm not sure this is the "realism" that peole want to justify and rationalize. This adds "proof" for people like Jay and Korn's dad.
We still don't know what Rit talked to Bright about in episode 9, so that's still a mystery. It looks like Farm is worried about the doctor expoiting Rit, but we'll have to wait and see.
Jay is a homophobe, but if his only exposure to gay men is his workplace, I can see why he is so ignorant. Like Jay's friend told Korn, "One guy in the afternoon, another guy in the evening." I'm not sure this is the "realism" that peole want to justify and rationalize. This adds "proof" for people like Jay and Korn's dad.
I wanted to add that after the shoulder massage while peeing in the urinal (Thunder TV trailer), I hope that Cho is at HR reporting Pete instead of being at the hospital waiting room. For being the straight guy, he's the only one who recognises a come on.
Pete is the person who put the wrong oil in the machine. That company's safety protocols are out of whack. You need hardhats but you walk around with an open bottle of oil. Plus they aren't wearing safety glasses.
I hope that Knock finds a job at Ocean Electric with Arthit or Siam Polymer working the Kongpob's dad.
What I hope doesn't happen is that Cho "gives" Yihwa to Art and tells him to take care of her and make her happy becaue she deserves to be happy.
I'm not sure what will happen with Farm and Bright. The writers missed a great opportunity for Bright to atone properly for thinking that he had a blank check when Farm agreed to an open relationship. It would be nice to show an age-gap couple since most BL is about younger men.
I would like to hear your predictions on FxBxR and YxC.
Fai was a breath of fresh air calling Yihwa a slut one minute, then making sure she had something to eat and drink. That's how female relationships are sometimes. We call each other out, but that doesn't change that we love each other, Fai is just disappointed, but she still loves all of her friends. Even when Farm tried to give her a low blow about being perpetually single, she still let him have it. I guess she is the toned down Yihwa of this season.
I can't help but be sad about this season. In TWM, Korn was able to put off Bright's sexual advances and he was drunk at that time too, but he succumbs to Pete's. Maybe it's because TWM was based on a novel and the author wrote Korn to be a guy who won't cheat. Sadly, we had only one PDA scene with K&K and it was a dream sequence, while we had to experience Korn x Pete in reality. If they had shown lovey dovey K&K flashbacks, it may have toned down the feelings the views had about Korn cheating. I do like that Pete is the Plern Pleng in this series because oftentimes women are relegated to the evil spoiler in BL series.
What I hope doesn't happen is that Cho "gives" Yihwa to Art and tells him to take care of her and make her happy becaue she deserves to be happy.
I'm not sure what will happen with Farm and Bright. The writers missed a great opportunity for Bright to atone properly for thinking that he had a blank check when Farm agreed to an open relationship. It would be nice to show an age-gap couple since most BL is about younger men.
I would like to hear your predictions on FxBxR and YxC.
Fai was a breath of fresh air calling Yihwa a slut one minute, then making sure she had something to eat and drink. That's how female relationships are sometimes. We call each other out, but that doesn't change that we love each other, Fai is just disappointed, but she still loves all of her friends. Even when Farm tried to give her a low blow about being perpetually single, she still let him have it. I guess she is the toned down Yihwa of this season.
I can't help but be sad about this season. In TWM, Korn was able to put off Bright's sexual advances and he was drunk at that time too, but he succumbs to Pete's. Maybe it's because TWM was based on a novel and the author wrote Korn to be a guy who won't cheat. Sadly, we had only one PDA scene with K&K and it was a dream sequence, while we had to experience Korn x Pete in reality. If they had shown lovey dovey K&K flashbacks, it may have toned down the feelings the views had about Korn cheating. I do like that Pete is the Plern Pleng in this series because oftentimes women are relegated to the evil spoiler in BL series.
I agree that some gay male images have been sexual and body shaming is a another gay male issue. I guess that I just believe that most gay men discuss their relationships and come to an agreement. Women flash their breasts for some 10 cent beads at Mari Gras, but most women don't flash their breasts, at home for those same beads. If they are caught in a photo and their partner does not agree, it will lead to an argument, but some partners are okay with it. Yes, some couples have an open relationship that work for them. If Korn was obsessed with Knock cheating on him, the relationship was not open. That's why Knock asked the rhetorical question.
I think that the writers manipulated a mostly female audience into thinking that this was the couple who were going to fight together, then one of them falls for the oldest trick in the book, a free piece of ass. BL is a mostly female driven industry (look at the fan meets, it isn't loaded with men) and women want the happy ending. from our characters. Women want men who do not cheat, even when drunk and we can't stand when our friends cheat. We've held too many of our friend's hands in the aftermath of cheating. Most women don't watch BL for heterosexual relationships, which is probably why Yihwa's situation is not as analyzed on the boards, even though women can't stand Yihwa this season. To be honest, I fast forward through many of her scenes.
I'm enjoying the discussion that's been going on. Most are well thought out even if I don't necessarily agree.