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I think that Pat kissed Nara back because you can see him pucker his lips. Since 95% of BL actors are probably heterosexual, the directors and production need to be looking out for this.

I'm pointing out the double standard regarding the SA because some viewers are saying that Pat did not want to kiss her, that it was all Nara. If that's the case, it was SA. MDL is so self-righteous about consent, and SA, so if Pat didn't want to kiss Nara, it's SA.

I agree. I think they should have noticed it, or made only very long shots or back shots if they did not want to do too many takes for Tai's POV. I understand that these actors are mostly hetero, so it's up to the director and production staff to catch this.

I felt like this was a throw away episode, which is a shame because it could have be very sweet and nice, since they finally became boyfriends. Hardly anyone is discussing that Tai and Pat are now boyfriends, which was the point of the episode (I think).

This episode was a disappointment to me so I will be a little sarcastic. Pat x Nara situation, and Tai running to the mountain was useless to the plot, because Pat never apologized, nor did he explain. He just confirmed Tai's assumptions, and threw him a lame, I Love You bone. Pat's friends were blaming the one guy, but they were all stupid for setting Pat and Nara up to be alone. I guess they hate Tai and prefer Nara. Pat was obviously puckering his lips (except in the close-ups), and let their lips stay connected for a good 10 seconds. It wasn't their first kiss, Pat knows what's up. If it was against Pat's will, then it was non-con. Where are the usual pearl clutchers who come around, ready to give us a lecture on SA when another man kisses a sleeping person on the cheek, or gives an unwanted kiss to another guy? Is it misandry, since Nara SA'd Pat, since he did not consent, according to some viewers? Tai running uphill, with a sweater and no water for hours, even in Northern Thailand is a good way to get heatstroke, but he recovered very quickly. Sleeping in the middle of a road, and the friends waiting until the next morning to pick them up was pure idiocy. Pat and Tai would have needed hospitalization for dehydration in real life.

I'm pretty disappointed in this episode. I'm curious about Lomfon being able to hear both Pat and Tai all of a sudden. Lomfon has known Tai for a while, even during rainy, and he has never heard him before. People might get mad at me over this post, but sometimes we need to have a laugh over what I see as a disastrous episode, in what has been a pretty good series.

No Pat didn't explain it. He obviously was puckering his lips, and he let her "force" him for a very long time. When you don't want a kiss, you would immediately create distance. Tai was being an insecure idiot for thinking Pat is better off with Nara. I'm chuckling because MDL is usually the SA/non-con enforcement arm, in addition to emo branch. Yet according to some viewers, Pat did not kiss back, so that means Nara "SA'ed" Pat, where are the the MDL cops? I know this place is full of kids, but I know a reciprocated kiss when I see one. Pat did have the Ken doll lips in the close-ups, but not in the long shots. Maybe Pee is straight, and it was natural, but they should have caught that in continuity. If he didn't want the kiss, especially if it invoke a freeze response, should they have talked about the female on male SA? If Nara was the ex-boyfriend, this board would have been lit up if they thought Pat did not want that kiss. I'm being sarcastic, but I think it's funny how this forum is so inconsistent.

Enjoyed the epilogue to this series. I love these slice of life stories. The house they stayed in was in such a beautiful location.

I stopped watching because I want Thana and Patis to get over the hurdle and binge it because it's such lazy storytelling. I'll check back in a couple of weeks since the comments seem to indicate it's still going on.

I was uncomfortable with the Sky and Win NC scenes. Because I saw Sky and Ace together, I can tell Sky's heart just isn't in it. I'm not sure why they even bothered. Even the actors seem bored

This series is mainly popular because of Jericho and Hiro. I hope they don't mess up the momentum with a subpar follow-up.

I'm afraid to watch this because Yechan in the webstoon is so adorable, and affectionate, and BL out of Korea casts people who hate physical contact with other men. Sun Yeol is gay in the source material, so it will be awkward if I see revulsion, like I've seen with many other Korean BL actors.

Is there an official English version or did you buy the Thai version? I think the communication during rain is such a unique concept. We have to have drama, or it would be a one chapter book, but Pat needs to explain why he was kissing Nara back.

Yes, him. People were excited about the pairing, especially since Singto is not longer with GMMTV and is no longer an option. Without an explanation, they recast with Gawin (who is doing a great job), so I went back to watch the original trailer. Now it's hard to imagine someone other than Gawin in the role.

I hated the selfish, narcissist Teh and wanted Oh to dump him once and for all, and give Bas another try. I felt alone on the mountain until now.

I didn't think of the female friend (I forget her name because she played "Yiwa" for so many years in Love Mechanics) letting Pat tell Nara off. I guess I was so team Tai that I didn't think about that. Pat's lips were puckered, I've seen enough Ken doll kisses in BL to notice the difference. lol

You make a great point about the BL having drunken sex or forced. I think that's a holdover from writers with the non/dubcon kink, and the mindset that men discover their sexuality after having sex with another man. I also think that many BL writers and viewers have never really been around younger gay men, or just know the one out guy at work.

In the heterosexual world, 100% of men that I interacted with want penetration, so I'm kind of surprised it's as low as 75/25, especially with PrEP. In our era, people wanted to blame gay men for AIDS, so I can see why my BIL who was living in SF back then, wanted to point out that guys were staying safer.

In BL, the fear of being penetrated isn't really discussed. Neither is fear of pain, lube, poop, etc., but huge play is made about rubbers but not lube. I don't want my dramas to get too clinical, but maybe a discussion about fear would be nice from time to time. I thought they had oral in the last episode. Pat literally put his crotch in Tai's face.

I like this series too. I didn't like that Tai instantly clicked with Nara, since it makes no sense according to Bow, and I was mad that Pat was clearly kissing Nara back. I can't blame anyone because Pat and Tai are not in a relationship yet, as evidenced in this episode. What did piss me off is how all the friends were covering for Pat and Nara, and setting them up to be alone, instead of being a real friend and dragging him back with them. Pat is never going to get sex after this, because Tai already has problems trusting and Pat just messed things up. They will probably figure out where Tai is because it's going to rain, but I want Pat and his friends to suffer and feel guilty for a while.

Tian's relationship with Lomfon is kind of like a lot of Korean webtoons. If he is not keychain man, I'll be very surprised.

I have a little bit of a different take on Tai. To be honest, I've been around my fair share of young, gay men, especially before AIDS, and yes, back in the bar scene, I learned that the "Women" sign on the restroom was probably just required by law. I think it's kind of nice to see a younger man not want to jump into full intercourse right away. I don't think he hates sex, but is just not ready to have intercourse. As my gay BIL told me back in the day, not all gay couples have anal sex. Some rarely have it, some never. It was my heterosexual point of view that all men want to put it in, each and every time. I do think that Tai and Pat will eventually get to it, but after seeing Pat kissing Nara back (I saw his lips pucker) Pat is going to have to wait even longer, since Tai has emotional baggage around his soul male parents getting a divorce.

I agree with you about Lomfon and Tien. Although I know that Tien will be the keychain owner, it's still nice to see them slowly getting feelings for each other.

Kawi is still confused and is still stuck on stupid. Pisaeng on the other hand, has figured things out.

Do you think this show would be as good/better/worse if Mike were still playing Pisaeng? When I watched the old trailer (through a reaction channel since GMM took it down), I noticed that Mike is also high energy, and it may have been too overwhelming for the viewer. I can't help but wonder what this series would be like with Krist and Mike though. I really like the Krist and Gawin energy and think the chemistry will get even better once Kawi gets off the stuck on stupid train.

I like all of the series you mentioned, and I also like this series. The book is a slooooooow burn, then BAM! goes lovey-dovey and very sexy. I guess they are following the source material a little too closely. A Thai YouTuber who reviewed the book a year ago said that she struggled to get through the first part, and it took her a long time to read it, so you are not alone.

Or relentless angst from beginning to end. That's MDL though.