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Replying to starlightshine Sep 14, 2020
It's on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRBClVey5BqzvHgoiTNBYHcNNRjOY9fTE
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Replying to 7436814 Sep 14, 2020
LOL I like how this show is already old but the discussions are still very heated. I don't agree with some of…
I agree they all are grey....but RY cross the line to malice territory with what he end up doing. He became the empress. So no i don't agree with RY being less evil. He forced himself on her and killed innocence ppl.


True love is his Female guard. She love him unconditionally with nothing in return. She did everything for him without expecting anything in return and felt he owe her his love just because she did things for him.

RY did the opposite of that. He forced it on her knowing she don't love him. She imprisoned her. Kill her that....i understand his trauma but that don't excuse/justify it. What he did isn't ok.
Replying to 7436814 Sep 14, 2020
Absolutely right! XF couldn't even speak for RY once, just only once. How about apologize? Nope, never... In the…
I disagree. It was more complex.

XF he has defend RY from his mom before. What can he really do? There is consequences. His parents still have the power. He can't really defend JM. He loved her and couldn't do much either. Then the story is focus on history repeating itself because no1 learned from the past digressions.

Again things are subjective and ppl will interrupt things differently.

All were flawed characters. But i felt that is the point of the story. At the end we take away a lesson
Replying to Kristina303 Sep 14, 2020
Reading your article also triggered my emotional memory from watching the drama. When I saw the title of the article…
i see soo many bias excuses for him and then ppl calling others who disagree bias.


I understand his issues/trauma but doesn't mean what he did is ok.
Replying to usna Sep 14, 2020
As the saying goes,no one is born bad. It is the circumstances that make them. Run Yu would not have changed the…
Not that. I don't have malice intent. I would want the person i love to be happy.

I.e. that girl by RY side. She loved him unconditionally. Did everything for him without expecting anything in return as long as he is happy. That is true love.

She didn't feel he owe her anything just because she loved him and did things for him by her own choice.
Replying to Purple Tofu Sep 14, 2020
But what about the thing there done on him ? Also Xu Feng have gone everything since childhood . Don't you think…
So what he loved her 1st. He don't own her

Again. Since i feel this repeat post resonate.


I see this a lot in love tri. I did all of this for you. Therefore you owe me your love. No you did it on your own free will. They don't have to like you. They owe you nothing

I.e. that girl by RY side. That is true love. She loved him unconditionally. Did everything for him. She didn't demand he owe her his love. As long as he was happy. That is true love.
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Replying to Purple Tofu Sep 14, 2020
But it was little unfair to him because when there was time not told him or stand by his side then jin mi .. which…
also just because someone like you and do nice things for you on their own free will doesn't means you owe them anything.

I see this a lot in love tri. I did all of this for you. Therefore you owe me your love. No you did it on your own free will. They don't have to like you. They owe you nothing

I.e. that girl by RY side. That is true love. She loved him unconditionally. Did everything for him. She didn't demand he owe her his love. As long as he was happy. That is true love.
Replying to Riddhi Sep 14, 2020
For me i feel before Mortal Trial both XF and RY were equally good for JM, the only difference was that RY had…
I see this a lot in love tri. I did all of this for you. Therefore you owe me your love. No you did it on your own free will. They don't have to like you. They owe you nothing

I.e. that girl by RY side. That is true love. She loved him unconditionally. Did everything for him. She didn't demand he owe her his love. As long as he was happy. That is true love.

his love for JM is different.

There are plenty of story where we have SLS. This one isn't it. He turn dark and malice. Cross the line when you manipulate...murder...hold ppl against their will. She begged him to let her go.

I work in mental health. I understand and feel his plight but there is not a justification for his behaviors.

I understand why he did it but doesn't mean his actions were ok. Many ppl are in traumatic situations. It is their choice to either scummage to it ir rise above. A comment above gave an example of that. 2 ppl in bad situation . 1 rose to get a better future and another chose to not do so.

Ignite the shipper? There is some. But i see plenty of bias RY fans justifying and excusing his behaviors like he is some saint and the other is evil.

The point of the story is history repeating itself.

One of the best drama for Male 2nd lead was Doctors. He liked the FL but he backed off because he knew she didn't like him. He told the ML that if he screw up...he'll jump back in thr game.

I loathe love tri...esp...when the person feels like they own the othet character and they owe them. They chose to do nice things for them. That person don't owe you....isn’t obligated to love you just because you love them and choses to do things for them on your own.
Replying to cityhunter Sep 14, 2020
he was fighting for his rights...to marry a person even after he knew she didnt want him ... yea, as much as i…
he knew she wasn't capable of love....rral romantic love. He manipulate that even before hand. He fixed her pill b4 hand....
Replying to zzz z Sep 14, 2020
Agree~In hindsight xufeng was the most pitiful of all to me. Jinmi aside, he clearly loved and respected his brother,…
agree. I understand RY. But i don't justify his behaviors.
His repeated for them all to learn. All 3 were pitiful . But JM & XF didn't turn dark ...manipulate and killed
Replying to audrey615 Sep 14, 2020
omg I love your analysis sooooo much! Too on point!!! @Joryenai I agree w/ you, the author only judges RY on his…
RY did so with malice intent. He went dark. He imprisoned JM and force his will on her. How is that ok? Him became like the Queen that he hated.

Phoenix thinking JM don't love him. Pushes her away. He only wants to be with her if it is mutual.


Just because we like or understand them. It doesn't justify them. So RY is justify for his evil deeds doe killing innocent ppl on purpose and we are condemning XF because he battle in war....sounds bias as well
Replying to Kara K Sep 14, 2020
I don't agree with your verdict, though I am not justifying his actions, I still think Run Yu has not done anything…
he didn't care about his fiancée....he didn't wait for her....when he found out it was someone he liked...then he took possession because he felt it is his.

No one belongs to anyone.

Look at the queen...forcing it and is miserable.
Replying to KingC Sep 14, 2020
I had a similar disagreement with my sister. She disliked him for his inferiority complex that lead him to do…
He did so sneakily....he clearly has malice intent...he turned dark. He became like the ppl he despise (the king and queen). No excuse for his behaviors.


One came understand and be compassionate but to justify his malice intent...

I work mental health. There is No excuse/justification for those type of behaviors no matter what traumatic experiences one may face.

Other face traumatic experiences and dont CHOSE to do that.

One can understand why....but it doesn't make the malicious behaviors ok.
Replying to cAllmemAi Sep 14, 2020
Definitely one of the best dramas ive seen this year. The chemistry was superb! The kisses were great. Guy was…
Happy ending?
Replying to btsgomo Sep 14, 2020
Yes!!! There is no need to dwell into Xu Feng's past because he's been given everything and has always been favored.…
i felt like it is. There a big craze and it is so popular...like pillow with yang mi....i tried to watch that 1 and didn't get into it.
Replying to Noy Sep 14, 2020
the person who fit her love...is the one she loves. I disagree. Xu Feng did not use her when he found out the…
They were all manipulated.

The issues is the continuation of it....

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

I understand Run Yu....but what he did isn’t ok.

I used this example on other post.

I work with mental health


My client (kid) hit another peer on the bus. Mom started to rationale it. Maybe they were playing a game like boys do. Maybe that kid antagonize him...ect...

I told mom...i understand the rationale but that doesn't mean his behaviors were ok to do. There is no justifications for hitting that other peer.

Understanding why they did it....it great....but it doesn't mean it was ok to do