I never enjoyed the K version, it was Daniel's first Korean TV drama as a leading actor. I am not so sure about…
I tried the k version and it didn't click. The teaser looks fun. My fierce wife original version was not interesting to mr ad Mia 2018. They remade it well with an updated flare
Now that I finish rewatching and paid extra attention....lol
My theory is that during the human world....he is "human", he feels hunger...sweat...ect....when he came out at the end there is no differences.....so I feel they go old together.
In the manga
She choose not to eat the peace and become immortal and dies.....I think I read he waits for her reincarnation
I'm rewatching this and is enjoying it. Nam roo si is my favorite.
Actually I like all the characters.
Haebeak and nam roo si as a duo is soo stupidly hilarious.
Bi ryum is funny and charismatic. He makes Krystal's character fun/funny their interactions. They were cute. I wish she realize she like him back sooner
There is many lol moments between the leads.
The swing - she was showing the kids the twist on the swing and fell over.
She's like ... I'm good you don't have to help me. She looked up and he was walking away saying, this women is so embarrassing.
Krystal to Haebaek - I dont like your cloths.....hahaha
Habaek drunk and talking to the mailbox about being rejected and alone.....hahaha...
There are soo many funny moments.
My fav. Is the ID and lisence.
The yong Yong cups....awwww....
I took the ending as a happy one...I choose to just be all good with that. I rewatched it so i came to the forum. I know ppl don't like the ending. The ending is similar to the manga. She choose to just stay human....
The manga is different....i skim it...this is more like an adaptation. I didn't read the manga...sooo....
i'm kind of having a love-hate feels for this drama. okay so let me point out things i loved with this drama.…
The love "triangle" isn't as bad ....it's in fact very tame ...compare to the love tri centric of 80% of Asian drama...scarlet heart...esp. when the girl can't decide...that is soo annoying
The villians (2nd leads) aren't so horrible either
I loathe love triangle....I usually avoid these plot
Hahaha....so I just rewatched this...so I came to the forum. I didn't realize there is a versus of characters.....
To me it is NOT who is a better character....that is base on how a character resonates with us....it is more of a which one we click with and therefore end up liking more that the other.
I like the otp of Phoenix and grape since they gave me the feels.
Reading and replying to some comments.....I can see why it is called ashes of love....all these ppl dying for love....
I feel all they characters are flawed and have their reasons. They all have selfish moments and manipulations...some were unintentional and some were intentional. I also don't feel any characters deserve something more than the other's. They all deserve love....more importantly a reciprocal love.
I root for the reciprocal love.
I don't like love triangle. I avoid these drama like the plagues. In 90% of a love triangle the 1 sided love always feel like just because they did all these things for them (their choosing by the way) that they deserves their love and force their feeling on them. Sorry, just because you love them and did things for them doesn't mean you will get their love and they owe you their love. You deserve love and deserve someone who mutually share your love. If it is forced. It become possession of the body because you know they don't love you but want to keep them. That irks me.
I don't rem. Her name...but that girl that stayed by run yu side....now that is unconditional love. She love and support him in all aspect and never forces her feeling on him. She didn't feel she deserve his love even when she did soo much for him. To love him and see him happy is all she wanted. If run yu was like that...I would probably have SLS....but also if he was like that.....hahaha.....we won't have this more intense storyline of history repeating itself with this tragic love story.
At the end....it is how a characters make us feel and how we resonate with them....but that doesn't mean that, that character is better and isn't wrong in certain choices they made.
1 of the best quote is from a thai lakorn. Love beyond frontier which I skim. Hahaha....it actually is also a love triangle between 2 brothers from a different mother.
It is actually a love square but the 4th person. The characters Pat is objective and is loving and supportive to all the character. They don't deserve her ....but lucky to have her. This is one of the best quote she said.
So he is the one sided love and he "kind of let go". He step aside to let her be with him. He punches the other guy because he cause the girl he like to be sad. The fight.
..Girl- .stop being blinded just because you love her. Your an unreasonable fool with no logic (fighting and blaming without knowing what really happen). Everyone has their reasons.
He replies....But I Like her! (His reason for being unreasonable)
Girl - And I like you. But I don't blindly side with you.
(On point.. Clap..clap..clap*)
Guy- it because you don't love me as much as I love her.
Girl- How do you know? If you think just because you do this, she will change her mind...then how about I like you just as obsessesly as you like her. How would you like that?! Let see if you will love me then....
Boy- Don't I will never like you.
You CAN'T FORCE FEELINGS
I felt these words.....
When we like someone or something we are more emphatic to their plight and is more understanding and forgiving.....but doesn't mean the choices they did still isn't wrong.
I recently read a translation of the book... I'm sure things are lost in translation. I like the added things they had here and the changes.
They are paying for the sins of the parents .....
Watch it if it clicks and if it doesn't....drop it....we have options and choices of drama to pick and see which one gives us the feel.
I tried ten miles of peach and it didn't click with me and dropped it. I didn't go hang out at their forum either to state why I didn't like it. I wasted my time here....at a forum of a drama I liked...
A lot of people are writing about how RunYu is evil, but for some reason I really can't see it. All his life he…
They all deserve happiness.....they all sacrifices something for the ppl they love.
I don't feel back for them....they choose to do it...no one force them...
We don't owe ppl a debt of love for something. They choose to do themselves....
An awesome character was that girl that stood by run yu side....that is true love ..thick & thin...unconditional love...by choice...never asked for anything in return and never try to force her feelings on him...as long as she love and support him by his side....and he is happy...she's happy...that is true love....what run yu did to me isn't....is his life tragic ...yes....does ge deserve love yes....they all deserve love with the person who also mutually loves them
Just finished the whole series... to be honest though the ending was a Happy Ending, I was very dissatisfied and…
He did have someone who loved him dearly and did a lot of things for him. He just never looked at her. She was by his side through it all...loved and supported him without asking for anything.
That is what true love is. Not forcing their feeling on anyone ....still loving and supporting the person.
TOTALLY agree. Every time they have arguments about who's to blame for things, I'm just thinking to myself, "Actually,…
God of war is good at war....run yu is more intuitive and understand the situation because he has to deal with it. Xu feng never had to because his mom is the QUEEN B.
Would you choose Xu Feng or Run Yu? It depends on your personal definition of love.- Xu Feng felt entitled to…
I would chose the person that is in my heart. (Who I love). Mutual love and feeling.
We can't force love....
And a person don't owe us a debt of love just because we yourself CHOOSE to do these things for them because you love them.
If jin mi loved run yu....I have no problem with them because that is where her heart is. But the fact is that is not where her heart lies and on top of that. He knew that it was 1sided.
But her heart lies with Xu Feng. They love each other. xu feng is only responding to his heart and she also loved him. Mutual romantic love.
Totally agree with you, never hated the main leads so badly ...But my hate list is quite big :1. Moon immortal,…
Xu feng also didn't fall in love with her until after like a 1000 year together. The pill was affected. You see it glowing and her chest hurt. In the mortal world the effect of it was more intense in the process and it started to crack. Even then it still intact but cracked until run yu repaired to full force again.
I see it like a rock....with the water dropping on jt....it takes a long time before it start to effect it and break.
Isn't it MOON's job to tie the red string to pair people. I can't fault him for that. He is in a sense cupid. That is what he has suppose to do.
Run yu is also a flawed character. Yes he loves her and take care of her....but that doesn't mean someone owe you their love because you are nice to them. It was your choice. No one force you to do it. Manipulating the situations and forcing your feeling on someone who you clearly knows don't romantically love you is selfish.
I find them all flawed characters. And selfish...we are all a bit selfish
I disagrees on this xu feng vs. Run yu....it's silly...just because you like 1 characters over another doesn't make that character better or more righteous.
I watch a recent drama and heard the best quote.
Again a stupid love triangle. Guy1 yells at guy 2 for hurting girl 1. He likes girl 1 therefore she seems to do no wrong. Girl 2 block him.
Girl 2- Just because you like her doesn't mean she is right and he is wrong. He has her reasons and she has his. I like you and I don't agree with you. I'm not blinded by it.
She is a female I can root for. She calls out the guy she loves and get this....my favorite thing about her, SHE DOESN'T FORCE HER FEELING OF LOVE ON ANYONE. SHE KNOWS HE DOESN'T LOVE HER AND DOES LOTS OF THINGS FOR HIM BY CHOICE. NEVER ONCE SHE DEMAND HIS LOVES OR think SHE DESERVES IT BECAUSE SHE DOES THESE THINGS FOR HIM. On top of it ...she see it like it is and calls him out on his blinded one side love.
To be really honest, there had never been any show I'd watched before where I had an extremely huge dislike for…
Each one of us have different feeling and reaction to how a character resonate to us.
They all did a wrist grabbing....it is unfortunately a asian trope.
Is he arrogant yes...is he entitled..in a sense...he was brought up that way...he had no problem sharing with his brother...(his mom manipulates many situations) ...but if she was able to clearly say she didn't love him and want nothing to do with him. I firmly believe his character would've left her alone.
If this is The Story of Runyu and he is the main character, the petty and double-faced person we will see is going…
Ppl are not posession. Xu did not steal anything from him.
She fell in love with him without knowing before they knew they were engaged. Even so.
No one own anyone and we can't force our feeling on others to make them love us. He knew she didn't love him and manipulates the situations. Knowing this he continues to force that upon her without her true consent. That isn't love. That is manipulations and obsession. He said he gave up things for xu feng. Xu feng has no problem sharing with him. These are the Sins of the parents.
That is also the point of the story....history repeating itself....and the Sins of the parents manipulating the situation.
If this is The Story of Runyu and he is the main character, the petty and double-faced person we will see is going…
None of the characters is perfect but run yu loses point by manipulating the situation and forcing something upon someone who doesn't want it. It is forcing on her with out her true consent.
Him as a character emote really well. All 3 of them did great emoting....I don't have SLS with his character.
I like pichu & fox - they crack me up
Xu feng is arrogant...ect..isn't perfect and yes he is the protagonist...that is beside the point. Many protagonist can be asshole. His character didn't force anything upon other or was manipulative.
At the end XU feng hold no grudge to his brother.
Love is something that CAN'T be forced. If you really love someone and they don't share the same feelings....them being happy is what we should root for....at this point it is about possession of their body....I can't be behind that.
That is my per peeve on many drama and love triangle. The character push their feelings on the other even though they knew the person don't like them that way. But because of their situation....they think they deserves it and do lots of manipulations to gain it.
I.e. I chose to do all these nice things and sacrifice for you because I love you....therefore you OWE me your love because I did so much for you. Even though I clearly know you have no romantic feelings for me.
WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL??? Tell me she didn't just do that in episode 45....(I'm still watching ep 45 btw)In my opinion,…
It is not about who deserve what...and if she is worth all this and that.
Each character carries the tragic history of their parents and it catapulted to them.
When we love someone we do crazy things....
We have to remember Jinmi has the unfeeling pill. Although naturally she gravitate to xu feng because in her heart she loves him but it is blocked by the pill.
They each love her for her carefree and silly personality. She makes them smile and their heart flutters.
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My theory is that during the human world....he is "human", he feels hunger...sweat...ect....when he came out at the end there is no differences.....so I feel they go old together.
In the manga
She choose not to eat the peace and become immortal and dies.....I think I read he waits for her reincarnation
Actually I like all the characters.
Haebeak and nam roo si as a duo is soo stupidly hilarious.
Bi ryum is funny and charismatic. He makes Krystal's character fun/funny their interactions. They were cute. I wish she realize she like him back sooner
There is many lol moments between the leads.
The swing - she was showing the kids the twist on the swing and fell over.
She's like ... I'm good you don't have to help me. She looked up and he was walking away saying, this women is so embarrassing.
Krystal to Haebaek - I dont like your cloths.....hahaha
Habaek drunk and talking to the mailbox about being rejected and alone.....hahaha...
There are soo many funny moments.
My fav. Is the ID and lisence.
The yong Yong cups....awwww....
I took the ending as a happy one...I choose to just be all good with that. I rewatched it so i came to the forum. I know ppl don't like the ending. The ending is similar to the manga. She choose to just stay human....
The manga is different....i skim it...this is more like an adaptation. I didn't read the manga...sooo....
The ending matches the manga. In the manga she chose the same thing. To remain human until the dying day.
Little these lol moments. I'm currently rewatching.
The villians (2nd leads) aren't so horrible either
I loathe love triangle....I usually avoid these plot
Nirvana in fire. 1 of the Male lead is a strategist and he manupulated the situation. He won hands down.
The other was a soldier and he always lost to the manipulations no matter how good he was at fighting.
I.e. game of thrones...Ceres is the queen of manipulations and she was the most successful without having to touch a weapon
To me it is NOT who is a better character....that is base on how a character resonates with us....it is more of a which one we click with and therefore end up liking more that the other.
I like the otp of Phoenix and grape since they gave me the feels.
Reading and replying to some comments.....I can see why it is called ashes of love....all these ppl dying for love....
I feel all they characters are flawed and have their reasons. They all have selfish moments and manipulations...some were unintentional and some were intentional. I also don't feel any characters deserve something more than the other's. They all deserve love....more importantly a reciprocal love.
I root for the reciprocal love.
I don't like love triangle. I avoid these drama like the plagues. In 90% of a love triangle the 1 sided love always feel like just because they did all these things for them (their choosing by the way) that they deserves their love and force their feeling on them. Sorry, just because you love them and did things for them doesn't mean you will get their love and they owe you their love. You deserve love and deserve someone who mutually share your love. If it is forced. It become possession of the body because you know they don't love you but want to keep them. That irks me.
I don't rem. Her name...but that girl that stayed by run yu side....now that is unconditional love. She love and support him in all aspect and never forces her feeling on him. She didn't feel she deserve his love even when she did soo much for him. To love him and see him happy is all she wanted. If run yu was like that...I would probably have SLS....but also if he was like that.....hahaha.....we won't have this more intense storyline of history repeating itself with this tragic love story.
At the end....it is how a characters make us feel and how we resonate with them....but that doesn't mean that, that character is better and isn't wrong in certain choices they made.
1 of the best quote is from a thai lakorn. Love beyond frontier which I skim. Hahaha....it actually is also a love triangle between 2 brothers from a different mother.
It is actually a love square but the 4th person. The characters Pat is objective and is loving and supportive to all the character. They don't deserve her ....but lucky to have her. This is one of the best quote she said.
So he is the one sided love and he "kind of let go". He step aside to let her be with him. He punches the other guy because he cause the girl he like to be sad. The fight.
..Girl- .stop being blinded just because you love her. Your an unreasonable fool with no logic (fighting and blaming without knowing what really happen). Everyone has their reasons.
He replies....But I Like her! (His reason for being unreasonable)
Girl - And I like you. But I don't blindly side with you.
(On point.. Clap..clap..clap*)
Guy- it because you don't love me as much as I love her.
Girl- How do you know? If you think just because you do this, she will change her mind...then how about I like you just as obsessesly as you like her. How would you like that?! Let see if you will love me then....
Boy- Don't I will never like you.
You CAN'T FORCE FEELINGS
I felt these words.....
When we like someone or something we are more emphatic to their plight and is more understanding and forgiving.....but doesn't mean the choices they did still isn't wrong.
I recently read a translation of the book... I'm sure things are lost in translation. I like the added things they had here and the changes.
They are paying for the sins of the parents .....
Watch it if it clicks and if it doesn't....drop it....we have options and choices of drama to pick and see which one gives us the feel.
I tried ten miles of peach and it didn't click with me and dropped it. I didn't go hang out at their forum either to state why I didn't like it. I wasted my time here....at a forum of a drama I liked...
I don't feel back for them....they choose to do it...no one force them...
We don't owe ppl a debt of love for something. They choose to do themselves....
An awesome character was that girl that stood by run yu side....that is true love
..thick & thin...unconditional love...by choice...never asked for anything in return and never try to force her feelings on him...as long as she love and support him by his side....and he is happy...she's happy...that is true love....what run yu did to me isn't....is his life tragic ...yes....does ge deserve love yes....they all deserve love with the person who also mutually loves them
That is what true love is. Not forcing their feeling on anyone ....still loving and supporting the person.
We can't FORCE LOVE.....
No matter how our life is....we all deserve love
We can't force love....
And a person don't owe us a debt of love just because we yourself CHOOSE to do these things for them because you love them.
If jin mi loved run yu....I have no problem with them because that is where her heart is. But the fact is that is not where her heart lies and on top of that. He knew that it was 1sided.
But her heart lies with Xu Feng. They love each other. xu feng is only responding to his heart and she also loved him. Mutual romantic love.
I see it like a rock....with the water dropping on jt....it takes a long time before it start to effect it and break.
Isn't it MOON's job to tie the red string to pair people. I can't fault him for that. He is in a sense cupid. That is what he has suppose to do.
Run yu is also a flawed character. Yes he loves her and take care of her....but that doesn't mean someone owe you their love because you are nice to them. It was your choice. No one force you to do it. Manipulating the situations and forcing your feeling on someone who you clearly knows don't romantically love you is selfish.
I find them all flawed characters. And selfish...we are all a bit selfish
I disagrees on this xu feng vs. Run yu....it's silly...just because you like 1 characters over another doesn't make that character better or more righteous.
I watch a recent drama and heard the best quote.
Again a stupid love triangle. Guy1 yells at guy 2 for hurting girl 1. He likes girl 1 therefore she seems to do no wrong. Girl 2 block him.
Girl 2- Just because you like her doesn't mean she is right and he is wrong. He has her reasons and she has his. I like you and I don't agree with you. I'm not blinded by it.
She is a female I can root for. She calls out the guy she loves and get this....my favorite thing about her, SHE DOESN'T FORCE HER FEELING OF LOVE ON ANYONE. SHE KNOWS HE DOESN'T LOVE HER AND DOES LOTS OF THINGS FOR HIM BY CHOICE. NEVER ONCE SHE DEMAND HIS LOVES OR think SHE DESERVES IT BECAUSE SHE DOES THESE THINGS FOR HIM. On top of it ...she see it like it is and calls him out on his blinded one side love.
Now this is a SLS I will root for.
They all did a wrist grabbing....it is unfortunately a asian trope.
Is he arrogant yes...is he entitled..in a sense...he was brought up that way...he had no problem sharing with his brother...(his mom manipulates many situations) ...but if she was able to clearly say she didn't love him and want nothing to do with him. I firmly believe his character would've left her alone.
That is my perspective....
They are all flawed characters
She fell in love with him without knowing before they knew they were engaged.
Even so.
No one own anyone and we can't force our feeling on others to make them love us. He knew she didn't love him and manipulates the situations. Knowing this he continues to force that upon her without her true consent. That isn't love. That is manipulations and obsession. He said he gave up things for xu feng. Xu feng has no problem sharing with him. These are the Sins of the parents.
That is also the point of the story....history repeating itself....and the Sins of the parents manipulating the situation.
Him as a character emote really well. All 3 of them did great emoting....I don't have SLS with his character.
I like pichu & fox - they crack me up
Xu feng is arrogant...ect..isn't perfect and yes he is the protagonist...that is beside the point. Many protagonist can be asshole. His character didn't force anything upon other or was manipulative.
At the end XU feng hold no grudge to his brother.
Love is something that CAN'T be forced. If you really love someone and they don't share the same feelings....them being happy is what we should root for....at this point it is about possession of their body....I can't be behind that.
That is my per peeve on many drama and love triangle. The character push their feelings on the other even though they knew the person don't like them that way. But because of their situation....they think they deserves it and do lots of manipulations to gain it.
I.e. I chose to do all these nice things and sacrifice for you because I love you....therefore you OWE me your love because I did so much for you. Even though I clearly know you have no romantic feelings for me.
This is the usual trope of a love triangle -.-"
Each character carries the tragic history of their parents and it catapulted to them.
When we love someone we do crazy things....
We have to remember Jinmi has the unfeeling pill. Although naturally she gravitate to xu feng because in her heart she loves him but it is blocked by the pill.
They each love her for her carefree and silly personality. She makes them smile and their heart flutters.