PickyPrincess11

Anyone know why Dindin isn’t on the next episode’s preview?

The ending clothed me with sadness. It is bittersweet.

I don’t know, maybe it’s just me that felt it that the sushi guy and Yoon Jae have romantic feelings for each other? I certainly felt that note. It was subliminal but strong. Why? I do understand that he’s the younger brother of someone who died unjustly while at the center. I reckon he fell in love with Yoon Jae (#13) on the process because of how devoted he become to the cause and also to him. When Yoon Jae died in prison, he was looking at their photo then he immediately followed him to afterlife by ingesting posion. Love and guilt are bad recipe.

Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed this drama. It was dark yet it tapped into a rollercoaster of emotions. It would also question your established values, your view of justice, humanity and responsbility. The ending was realistic, I think. In real life, there are culprits who get away scot-free, law and justice need reform in their system, which is a long and bloody process.

The ending scenario would likely be the judge (#11) dying (“heroic” death perhaps saving his bro detective), #13 life sentence or death row, and #12 if he is indeed charles (sushi guy) since he only “assisted” (as long he didn’t kill anyone - i strongly think he only assisted) could receive lighter punishment or parole, and will be reunited with his mom (resto ahjumma). In the end, would come full circle.

I still have my doubts. I think it’s another plot twist. I feel like #13 lied when he said that #12 is dead. I still think #12 is Charles. A swap or another deception most likely happened.

11,12,13 trio of revenge

Dang! 24 hours to finally know who this Charles aka sushi guy really is! Won’t be surprised tho if he is #12.

Oh well, at least who the dead person is in the drum comes to light.

That’s what I thought too. He created boundaries and acted like a “pro”, only to eat his barf at the end, wanting to try “love” with her on the last few minutes of the drama.

Take for example IU and Lee Sun Kyun in My Mister.

My standard for deep platonic relationship between ML and FL in a drama is with IU and Lee Sun Kyun in My Mister. I agree, it is rare but can be executed beautifully.

This! This is what I want to emphasize. I was enjoying listening and watching their mentoring scenes, the advices, and all. But when the dynamics began to shift, I cannot lie to myself. I am not comfortable with it, esp, when all throughout the show Jegal kept saying that Ga Eul was never a girl as far as he can see, and just a “kid.” I trusted those words, only to get betrayed in the end. They have more chemistry as friends (older brother) /father figure than lovers. It surely left a bad taste in the mouth.

Yes.

Gu Tae Man —> Dr Park —> Jegal <—Cha Gaeul <—Lee Moo Gyul <—Han Woo Yeon

But ML ended up with FL on the last 5mins despite ML calling FL a “kid” and “never a girl” all throughout the drama. Lols!

So that’s how you ruin a good sports drama by inserting a cliche romance at the end. Too bad, the show can stand on its own without the romantic arc.

I feel bad because I enjoyed the show on its first half. Next half went downhill.

So much so for “never a woman” and a “kid” in his eyes. Yeah, Jegal! 🤡

That’s what I thought, too. For now, I am seeing an upcoming yet still lowkey ally which is Prince Seonnam’s teacher / King’s chief secretary.

Ah, yes I remember now! The Queen Dowager said that during the selection process, it was between her and Consort Hwang but the late king chose her to keep his mother’s relatives in check.

I think it will still air. So far this is not included in the cancelled ones.

https://www.soompi.com/article/1552080wpp/concerts-broadcast-programs-and-more-postponed-and-canceled-following-itaewon-tragedy

This sounds similar to what the children in this drama went through:

Trigger warning. Read at your own risk.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52797527

Which reminds me, OCN thriller/actions mostly have shamans in them! Dark Hole is one.

I am enjoying this show a lot, it has potential and I always look forward to seeing it every week. The only complaint I have so far is why it seems that the queen is doing everything? I know it is the point, she’s the protagonist. But let us not kid ourselves, in saeguks, it is almost impossible for someone to be queen without strong support or political allies. How about her family? I’m glad there’s Prince Seongnam and Bogum, who are voices of reason and action. That’s where it is a bit overstretched for me. I hope they at least put someone to support the queen in her battles.

And I also think JYJ doesn’t know about their secret hideout in the center. Only those 3 know (Eun Ki and the bros plus Yuna). I still think SH killed Yuna.

With two more episodes, there’s still time for plot twists. To recap:

Children:
#7 Ahn Tae Ho, manager, deceased
#11 Ryu Sung Hoon, judge, alive
#12 Jung In Seong, status: unknown, but dead according to JYJ
(Note: has a scar caught in a trap, missing son of resto ahjumma)
#13 Jung Yoon Jae, alive, pyscho killer
#24 Lee Hyun Soo, dead (?) ran by a car by crazy dog/guards while escaping, in EP1.
Note:
1. Lee Jung Soo (aka Charles) his younger brother is avenging his death?
2. A #24 orphanage uniform was exumed near skeletons in EP12

Others:
#45 Kim Jin Gu, alive with severe PTSD, friend of #24 Lee Hyun Soo and wants to take him on a picnic

We still need confirm the true identity of Charles, ths sushi guy to complete the puzzle. His motive is somewhat clear:
(1) if he is #12 it is to take revenge against his mom for “abandoning” him and the orphanage peeps. If not #12, to avenge #12
(2) if he is indeed the younger brother of #24, to avenge his Hyung for getting killed while at the orphanage, or
(3) he himself is #24, to bring himself justice

But my personal take is #12 is Charles.

I see. If so, this is really a deviation to the plan and it made Judge Ryu pissed. Yuna was a collateral damage then.