Although the two male leads would've made a great looking couple, the context of "Squid Game" is far from romantic. The gritty, survival-oriented themes create a narrative that doesn't lend itself well to romantic interpretations
Most BL fans are aware this isn't the right time or place for a BL. Less competitive dramas leave more room to explore the potential for close romantic bonds and emotional attachments between men
"... to emphasize that both gay and straight relationships exist naturally alongside each other"It's possible…
The creator is homophobic and undermines the objective of normalizing gay relationships by perpetuating the assumption that straight relationships should be present as the "default" against which all other relationships are measured
Normalization isn't a scenario of obligatory coexistence or assimilation. Normalizing gay identities and relationships doesn't mean making them more palatable to a straight identifying audience, it means accepting and respecting gay stories as they are
True normalization liberates itself from the reliance on straight stories, recognizing that gay stories are capable of standing on their own
"For many queer individuals, seeing their existence reflected in media is not just about visibility, its about validation"
As a gay person, I feel more seen and empowered when I read stories that center exclusively gay characters and experiences
"... to emphasize that both gay and straight relationships exist naturally alongside each other"It's possible…
"The normalization of both heterosexuality and homosexuality is crucial"
"Heterosexuality" doesn't need to be normalized
The existence of BL/gay media is a response to the mainstream media's failure to represent gay stories and experiences. It's unfair and homophobic of you to expect the one platform created for non-straight stories to accommodate straight ones
It's not the responsibility of BL creators to fix the shortcomings of mainstream media and ensure everyone is "represented." Mainstream media has resources and influence to effect change on a broader scale than BL. Your focus should be on advocating for mainstream media to improve representation
"Straight dramas can manage multiple couples because they have longer episodes"
Your assumption that longer episodes guarantee success for straight dramas with multiple couples is oversimplified and flawed. A more critical factor is the quality of writing and the ability to maintain an engaging pace throughout the narrative
They are trying to including all type of sexuality and I appreciate it!
Disagreeing with an author's decision isn't entitlement. It's a normal and healthy part of engaging with media and culture to have opinions on how representation should be handled
They are trying to including all type of sexuality and I appreciate it!
Authors might feel pressured to compromise on gay representation due to industry expectations, commercial considerations, or other factors. This doesn't make their decision right or something we should agree with
"... to emphasize that both gay and straight relationships exist naturally alongside each other"It's possible…
There were two developed gay relationships in the source material, meaning the story and the screen time were structured to accommodate them
Straight dramas manage several straight storylines without controversy. Why won't you change them? Amplify underrepresented voices by introducing main gay characters in adaptations of straight works. The shift would nurture a more balanced, "stronger representation of coexistence"
"Therefore, it can't be considered homophobia by any definition"
It can, having a gay couple doesn't negate homophobia
Creators don't have to intend harm to be homophobic. Homophobia is perpetuated by people like you who believe they're acting morally
They are trying to including all type of sexuality and I appreciate it!
You're shoehorning a variety of sexualities into narratives intended to focus on gay experiences. Please consider directing your indolence and absence of creativity towards writing new straight-gay stories instead
I watched E2 and quite liked it. It was simple, beautiful and heartwarming. The OST played in this episode was…
"... to emphasize that both gay and straight relationships exist naturally alongside each other"
It's possible to achieve this without removing existing gay representation
The adaptation should've introduced new straight identifying characters alongside the two gay couples, allowing for the different range of sexualities that don't sacrifice gay visibility
"... as if its some fantasy world where everyone is automatically queer"
Gay people exist in social circles. Seeing multiple gay characters or couples in a story isn't "unrealistic" or a "fantasy." It's an accurate depiction of the social bonds that exist within these groups
"As for those accusing the creators of being homophobic ..."
Heteronormative alteration of gay works is homophobic, regardless of any supposed "good" intentions
you're attacking christians now? for what reason? who here showed they were a homophobe because of Christianity?…
"There alot more non religious pple who condemn homosexuality as well... look at china and Korea for example"
The homophobia of secular countries isn't entirely divorced from religious influences. Confucianism and related religious traditions of ancestor worship and filial piety have long influenced the cultural beliefs of China and Korea. They uphold heteronormative family structures and expectations, dictating certain behaviors and attitudes towards one's parents and elders. The introduction of Christianity to Korea has only compounded the issue
I believe that the prevalence of religion in these countries is underreported; that self-reported data on religiosity is misleading. Many "non-religious" people hold beliefs in a higher power, soul or afterlife that aren't captured by traditional metrics of religiosity. The claim that a country is, for example, 50% non-religious, should be approached with a degree of skepticism
Sorry but u guys on wat do u base urselves dat dis is doing good? Based on my research d ratings for dis show…
The popularity of a drama doesn't reflect its moral or artistic merit. Many works that were successful in their time, such as minstrel shows or racially insensitive sitcoms, are now recognized as morally reprehensible and culturally insensitive by wise people. The popularity of a work should be evaluated in the context of the society in which it was produced, and the values and prejudices that shaped its reception
The popularity of this censored drama isn't a cause for celebration. It's a sobering reminder of the extent to which homophobia continues to permeate the social and cultural fabric. People find the erasure and distortion of gay stories more palatable than a truthful, respectful depiction. The comments here prove that
then they shouldn't have put their hands on a BL story, you don't want to make a BL drama then don't touch the…
Who are you to defend or endorse the author's decision? You "are speaking as if you are the creator"
Censorship of gay works happens for reasons that aren't noble or justified. It runs counter to the values of inclusivity and equality that should undergird society
The author chose to compromise their vision, we refuse to accept such compromises. It's absurd to suggest that the passive acceptance of the author towards censorship precludes any commentary, criticism or discussion of the matter on the part of the audience
"Eun Ho was an unfortunate person, but he had the wrong belief" (episode 14, 28:22)
"Who am I to judge others?" (episode 16, 47:02, 52:53)
The Woo Kyung and Ji Heon who believe they are noone to judge others passed judgment on the motives and actions of Red Cry and his brother, Eun Ho
Judgment is an inescapable feature of the social fabric. We can't denounce judgment and label Red Cry's motives or actions as "wrong." Woo Kyung and law enforcement are assuming a moral high ground. If they genuinely subscribed to the belief that they aren't in a position to pass judgment on others, they wouldn't get involved or arrest Red Cry
Most BL fans are aware this isn't the right time or place for a BL. Less competitive dramas leave more room to explore the potential for close romantic bonds and emotional attachments between men
Normalization isn't a scenario of obligatory coexistence or assimilation. Normalizing gay identities and relationships doesn't mean making them more palatable to a straight identifying audience, it means accepting and respecting gay stories as they are
True normalization liberates itself from the reliance on straight stories, recognizing that gay stories are capable of standing on their own
"For many queer individuals, seeing their existence reflected in media is not just about visibility, its about validation"
As a gay person, I feel more seen and empowered when I read stories that center exclusively gay characters and experiences
"Heterosexuality" doesn't need to be normalized
The existence of BL/gay media is a response to the mainstream media's failure to represent gay stories and experiences. It's unfair and homophobic of you to expect the one platform created for non-straight stories to accommodate straight ones
It's not the responsibility of BL creators to fix the shortcomings of mainstream media and ensure everyone is "represented." Mainstream media has resources and influence to effect change on a broader scale than BL. Your focus should be on advocating for mainstream media to improve representation
"Straight dramas can manage multiple couples because they have longer episodes"
Your assumption that longer episodes guarantee success for straight dramas with multiple couples is oversimplified and flawed. A more critical factor is the quality of writing and the ability to maintain an engaging pace throughout the narrative
Straight dramas manage several straight storylines without controversy. Why won't you change them? Amplify underrepresented voices by introducing main gay characters in adaptations of straight works. The shift would nurture a more balanced, "stronger representation of coexistence"
"Therefore, it can't be considered homophobia by any definition"
It can, having a gay couple doesn't negate homophobia
Creators don't have to intend harm to be homophobic. Homophobia is perpetuated by people like you who believe they're acting morally
It's possible to achieve this without removing existing gay representation
The adaptation should've introduced new straight identifying characters alongside the two gay couples, allowing for the different range of sexualities that don't sacrifice gay visibility
"... as if its some fantasy world where everyone is automatically queer"
Gay people exist in social circles. Seeing multiple gay characters or couples in a story isn't "unrealistic" or a "fantasy." It's an accurate depiction of the social bonds that exist within these groups
"As for those accusing the creators of being homophobic ..."
Heteronormative alteration of gay works is homophobic, regardless of any supposed "good" intentions
The homophobia of secular countries isn't entirely divorced from religious influences. Confucianism and related religious traditions of ancestor worship and filial piety have long influenced the cultural beliefs of China and Korea. They uphold heteronormative family structures and expectations, dictating certain behaviors and attitudes towards one's parents and elders. The introduction of Christianity to Korea has only compounded the issue
I believe that the prevalence of religion in these countries is underreported; that self-reported data on religiosity is misleading. Many "non-religious" people hold beliefs in a higher power, soul or afterlife that aren't captured by traditional metrics of religiosity. The claim that a country is, for example, 50% non-religious, should be approached with a degree of skepticism
These people block anyone who disagrees with them. They can't handle a discussion that doesn't go their way
The popularity of this censored drama isn't a cause for celebration. It's a sobering reminder of the extent to which homophobia continues to permeate the social and cultural fabric. People find the erasure and distortion of gay stories more palatable than a truthful, respectful depiction. The comments here prove that
Censorship of gay works happens for reasons that aren't noble or justified. It runs counter to the values of inclusivity and equality that should undergird society
The author chose to compromise their vision, we refuse to accept such compromises. It's absurd to suggest that the passive acceptance of the author towards censorship precludes any commentary, criticism or discussion of the matter on the part of the audience
"Who am I to judge others?" (episode 16, 47:02, 52:53)
The Woo Kyung and Ji Heon who believe they are noone to judge others passed judgment on the motives and actions of Red Cry and his brother, Eun Ho
Judgment is an inescapable feature of the social fabric. We can't denounce judgment and label Red Cry's motives or actions as "wrong." Woo Kyung and law enforcement are assuming a moral high ground. If they genuinely subscribed to the belief that they aren't in a position to pass judgment on others, they wouldn't get involved or arrest Red Cry