Edit: I've deleted what I originally put here because although I intended it to be taken lightheartedly I don't think that came across and it's just become controversial. It's not that I don't really have my suspicions but even so, I didn't mean for it to be taken as seriously as it was.
This was in reference to my original comment: Lol, I'm getting so good at the melodramatic comments. At this point I'm half crying (not actually), half laughing at myself. Is there an emoticon for that?
Let us keep in mind this is a phone conversation. So SDM cannot see HJP's facial expressions.Note that prior to…
Your comments make me ashamed of my comments. I'm going to stop leaving comments of despair. From now on I'll only comment if I have something funny or thoughtful to say.
Yeah same it has so much potential with all the parralel symbolism that I felt I was robbed of the feeling of…
This comment section and 2D1N are getting me through it. I've never been able to get into fan fictions and I won't be watching another K-drama for a while. I know no-one will notice but I'm boycotting them because of how stupid this industry is. I suspect the sabotage of the plot of this drama was something to do with NJH's agency and endorsements. I'll only end my boycott for KSH.
I can't shake this feeling of being robbed. I'm over the heartbreak of watching HJP not end up with SDM and instead lose to that undeserving little b******. Okay, maybe I'm not completely over it but that's not the main thing on my mind. What's getting to me is that I'm confident PHR was prevented from giving us the story she had planned. HJP is the best character I've ever come across in a K-drama and the story that I believe we were meant to get would've been the best modern romance I've ever come across. It would've been exactly my cup of tea and what I've been looking for since I started watching K-dramas. I know I keep repeating myself but as I said, I can't shake it. I'm just going to keep venting until it wears off.
Hi everyone. So Start- Up just came to Netflix in my country. Should I give it a try? By reading the comments…
On your own head be it but I recommend you stop after episode 6. If you're still going but you have "SLS" (I put that in quotes because there's a strong case that he was meant to be the male lead) then stop after episode 10. The next point to stop would be after episode 12. Do not under any circumstances watch 13-16 if you continue to have "SLS". Pretend it ended at 12, although it's by no means an ideal ending even if you stop there. Basically, prepare to feel utterly cheated unless you're one of the lucky few who doesn't get "SLS".
Edit: If you take my advice and don't finish it, I can recommend you some scenes to look for on youtube to watch out of context. They're better out of context. Again, this is on the basis that you get "SLS".
I too believe that the ending was different. Too many things that were left untold. The last 4 episodes were changed…
"The writer really loved HJP's character. " Yes that was obvious to me too.
This has left such a bitter taste in my mouth. I've sworn off K-dramas because I'm so mad about how the industry works. It will take something very highly recommended to get me to try one again. Actually no I take that back. I'll watch anything with KSH. I've become such a simp.
I wonder how successful this drama would've been if it had stayed on track. I think it would've blown up. As it is, it blew up as the biggest K-drama disaster ever. I don't think that's too much of an exaggeration.
I too believe that the ending was different. Too many things that were left untold. The last 4 episodes were changed…
Yes it's clear as day that the ending was changed. It's so frustrating and I think it's only backfired on NJH. The thought process behind this was just idiotic. Didn't his agency learn anything from School 2015? Sure, it's a little embarrassing being outshone by a lesser known actor but not as bad as being associated with the most hated male lead in K-drama history. NDS wouldn't have been so disliked if the story had gone the way it was meant to. If it was his agents behind this then they are complete morons and he needs to fire them. I just feel so robbed. Whenever I see scenes from episodes 1-6 it makes me wish so much that we'd got the original story.
On the plus side, I think this drama may have made me immune to all other SLS. The next time I get a hint of it I'll remember HJP, realise it doesn't compare and be so grateful that it's not as bad that I'll get over it right then and there. I think I might finally be able to re-watch Reply 1988.
SDM knowing the truth didn't change a single thing so why did they even REVEALED!
I'm still pushing the theory that the writer had planned for her to end up with HJP and decided to stick to her plan as much as possible even after she knew the ending would be different. That's the only way to make sense of all the events in this drama.
My latest guess: HJP was meant to save the day and make it possible for SDM to go to America. She still would've been upset about the letters being a lie which is why she would've found it easy to leave him but she also would've been grateful to him for fixing things. NDS wouldn't have been able to redeem himself and I don't think she was meant to get back together with him in the original plan. Then she would have returned after the time jump and we'd finally have got our ship.
I know I may be wrong but like I said, this drama makes no sense otherwise. I think this drama is the result of a clash between what the writer intended and what TVN and NJH's agency agreed to. If you imagine that it's a mishmash of opposing storylines, one that was written by the writer and one that was inflicted by the agency/producers then it all makes sense.
It's a thankless job, but unfortunately somebody has to do it. I haven't got a full night of sleep ever since…
I suspect those new viewers Ayla Flower referenced will also join the haters team at some point and will be able to take over from us veterans. Until then keep up the good work. :)
I dont think the writer is intelligent enough for these aspects of symbolism, character analysis and consistency…
I guess I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because she wrote two of my faves (Pinocchio and While You Were Sleeping). Also, she doesn't need to be that intelligent for my suspicions to be correct. She would need to be incredibly stupid for this to have been her plan all along. As would the director and other people involved. For instance, only SDM and HJP had their own theme music. They were also frequently colour coordinated which is usually a soft confirmation.
If I'm right and she was forced to change the ending that must have been so frustrating for her. I think she knew she had something good.
Again, on the assumption that her hands were tied, she probably had a choice between totally abandoning her story and re-writing it to suit NDS or keeping what she could of it, including our 'good boy' as we know him, even if that meant setting up the audience for disappointment. I'm glad she chose the latter. I doubt she knew HJP would be this popular but thanks to her stubbornness we got to know him, even if it broke some of us in the end. Lol, I'm being so melodramatic.
I just had a thought regarding my comment below. Maybe originally HJP was going to save the day and stop SST from getting disbanded. This would allow SDM to go to America, thereby accounting for the fan theory that when he gifted her shoes he ensured she would walk out of his life. I'm now also wondering if she and WIJ were meant to team up later, after the time jump.
This was in reference to my original comment: Lol, I'm getting so good at the melodramatic comments. At this point I'm half crying (not actually), half laughing at myself. Is there an emoticon for that?
Edit: If you take my advice and don't finish it, I can recommend you some scenes to look for on youtube to watch out of context. They're better out of context. Again, this is on the basis that you get "SLS".
This has left such a bitter taste in my mouth. I've sworn off K-dramas because I'm so mad about how the industry works. It will take something very highly recommended to get me to try one again. Actually no I take that back. I'll watch anything with KSH. I've become such a simp.
I wonder how successful this drama would've been if it had stayed on track. I think it would've blown up. As it is, it blew up as the biggest K-drama disaster ever. I don't think that's too much of an exaggeration.
My latest guess: HJP was meant to save the day and make it possible for SDM to go to America. She still would've been upset about the letters being a lie which is why she would've found it easy to leave him but she also would've been grateful to him for fixing things. NDS wouldn't have been able to redeem himself and I don't think she was meant to get back together with him in the original plan. Then she would have returned after the time jump and we'd finally have got our ship.
I know I may be wrong but like I said, this drama makes no sense otherwise. I think this drama is the result of a clash between what the writer intended and what TVN and NJH's agency agreed to. If you imagine that it's a mishmash of opposing storylines, one that was written by the writer and one that was inflicted by the agency/producers then it all makes sense.
If I'm right and she was forced to change the ending that must have been so frustrating for her. I think she knew she had something good.
Again, on the assumption that her hands were tied, she probably had a choice between totally abandoning her story and re-writing it to suit NDS or keeping what she could of it, including our 'good boy' as we know him, even if that meant setting up the audience for disappointment. I'm glad she chose the latter. I doubt she knew HJP would be this popular but thanks to her stubbornness we got to know him, even if it broke some of us in the end. Lol, I'm being so melodramatic.