Just finally caught up to ep 12 and I gotta say yall, this show is really really good. Our characters have settled…
On point ! It's witty, interesting and the FL has her own arch and past. And I'm loving that pettiness (regarding apologies, revenge, protection, ...). May it last all the drama beause it's kind of relieving.
I think one of things that has impressed me so far is how they have retained a healthy balance between the different…
Yes ! Exactly the same feelings :) I'm a lover of romance, but the drama makes me as exited for the other themes : actions, politics, buddies relationships and comedy
A very well written drama with great plot and interesting characters delivering their promises. We have a just…
English is not my first language, so do not take it to heart if I ever butchered some words, expressions or grammar ! (But it would be lovely of you to point it out kindly)
A very well written drama with great plot and interesting characters delivering their promises. We have a just balance of ation, politics, romance and comedy without any of those themes cannibalizing the other(s). FL : The FL is a very captivating woman showing an easy to grasp for the audience but complex personnility. And damn, she is coherent, a bit petty, calm and doesn't just act like a badass but IS ! A very well portrayed woman with an impressive set of technical skills but able to acknowledge her lack of social and emotionnal skills. At the same time, her vulnerabilite make her into an even more in depth charachter. I feel like it's a refreshing portrayal of feminity... PLOT : The plot complement very well the whole package about the characters with buddies and comradeship, trust, growth, romance and the right amount of comedic gold... So, the first episodes are a very good introduction to both the plot (espeially some of the key stakes) AND the charachters. Without forgetting a good rythm and sense of timing making it feel very well done. cINEMATOGRAPHY : The cinematography is also to admire in some fighting scenes but I was expecting a bit more whith what the trailer showed us. AcTING : Well, no doubt to have with Liu Shi Shi. For her last dramas, she has a knack to pick up script with FL who are interesting, realistic and are never too black and white. Same with Liu Yu Ning ! Facing such a legend like a Liu Shi Shi is one damn challenge and he pass it. Their acting is so good, it's impossible to confond them with the previous charachters they played. Something hard to see in cdrama beause they tend to typecast. (not only in cdrama btw) I'm going to rewatch all their previous dramas, because, damn they do deliver !
Wait a damn minute. At the end of ep 20, we have a confirmation that ZYL know about Young Master Wu and Mu Yao's plot.... Sooooo, he knew everything and instead of confronting his wife/concubine, he is expeting HQ to do all the work.... This man is only good for breathing and staring out the window. He is doing nothing to solve any issues, worth nothing, being a self rightous prick, unexpected violence, miscommunication, ... HQ didn't just dodge a bullet, she dodged an egocentric bazooka ! You go girl !
The way swan neck is acting so vengeful you would think everyone killed her man or her family but nope she just…
I feel like she is severely depressed and need others to hurt. She sarificed her future and hildhood by going to the Zong's residence in order to save her lover. And all that is worth nothing in the end. She is losing it. To her, the future is vain, her pain so omnipresent that she is completely unable to feel real empathy. It happens to people in real life. Traumas don't need to be immense. What matters in trauma is how they impat you. In her case, it definitely triggers a spiral down that is going to end pretty badly.
Why are you all so sure that this 2nd life is a dream ? What if she is indeed in a coma and reliving that 2nd…
I do agree on the coma part and that she is kind of dreaming beause she hates pain and need an escape. But, is it really a dream or just her remembering her long journey ? I can't figure out why it can only be a dream and not just her remembering her journey...
So, I have some questions and an alternative theory...
Why are you all so sure that this 2nd life is a dream ? What if she is indeed in a coma and reliving that 2nd life beause the pain reminds her of the long and rough path she had ? She is so sensible to pain maybe she holds on her memories to be distrated. I'm a bit at loss to why it can only be a dream and not memories. What are your takes on that ?
@Sunshineeeeeee we must be on the same page. I didn't see "A Date with the Future" but I did enjoy "Fireworks…
Try "a date with the future". The FL is strong and bold. She knows what she wants and is ready to fight for it. The first episodes show her shamelessly trying to flirt with the ML while advancing in her work as a journalist.
why are there so many chinese firefighter dramas this year ? Like 3 dramas that all have really similar plots.…
Because it's partly funded by the chinese government as long as it highlights a specific job, career and values. You can also notice that the basic outplan is very similar when tackling those same subjects. For the firefighters, we find a girl being saved by a man she kind of fall for or that she met years ago, their reunion thanks to or because of work, their struggles to understand each other, how the man firefighter is trying to reject the girl because his job can be deadly, and how they end up together to bring the best out of each other.
The list of cdrama about firefighters : "Birght eyes from the dark", "Fireworks of my heart", "A date with the future" (the closest one to "bright eyes" in terms of plot), "The Flaming Heart", ...
Between 2020 and 2022 we had like 4 cdrama about athletes in the diverse range of ice skating : "To Fly With You", "Skate Into Love", "My Unicorn Girl", "To Our Dreamland of Ice". Same with soldiers ("You are my hero", "My Dear Guardian"), lawyers, doctors, ...
I agree with the people who think that birth record is to hide his mother's identity (maybe his identity is nobler…
I have a crazy conspiracy theory about GZY's mother. Actually, the more I think about it, the more it would make sense about his mother. What if she was the og Anonymous, so on a level higher than Mei. But she fell pregnant. And then, as any other wufeng or women felt so trapped. She was a bird in a cage in the Gong's residence but a mere chesspiece in Wufeng. Worse, she had a baby who was able to have the freedom she so longed for. So she poisons herself leading to GYZ being premature and prone to cold.
Then, for Anonymous, what if instead of one person it's all or a few wufeng's assassins who are using this terrifying identity to break heavoc. There are other wufeng members who came into the Gong residence that are still playing the long game. A mystery as legendary is much more terrifying and easy to draw chaos than just accomplishing the wufeng's missions. Even better, it would be interesting if some either died but might also have survived the Death Oath with the back hill so happen to switch sides...
both of them are assassins from wufeng. but they kinda enemy to each other in the gong residence.
They were allies and now they are slowly evolving as ennemies while still being under Wufeng's orders. They are on differents sides in the Gong residence. At first it was a great opportunity to fulfill their missions while "helping" each other. But Shangguan Qian has made and is still making very clear that she is using FL to accomplish her mission, even if it means to kill her. I feel like FL would prefer sisterhood but is mature and smart enough to understand how cunning and cruel Shangguan Qian can really be.
Man, I had wanted to know so bad why YWS gave up the medical record. Because if giving it up means ZY's position…
I feel like it's on purpose too. Again, she seems to make a silly mistake in order to actually gain more. Did she really gave the medical record ? How is she going to use it to benefit her ?
SGQ is bold and takes risky moves because she can be overconfident. The warning of GSJ about the chess piece can be foreshadowing their relationship together. He seems to have the upper hand but in the end, she will have more. However, by acting smart she can forget to be wise. But YWS stays quite mysterious and is constantly adapting. Indeed, it always gives us the feeling she is going with the flow and seems rather silly by making mistakes. But, in the end, we never really know what she is really up to. Her relationship with GZY is also hard to define because she seems confused instead of sure of herself. Plus, what do we do about the hints she found about Anonymous or Wulji. Is she going to use it ? It can also be interesting.
The more we go in the story, the more hints we get about Yun Wei Shan being much more than just Chi. I feel like she either lie about her actual level or she purposely sabotaged herself to be on the Chi level instead of more. Here are the few hints I see :
* "I don't kill the innocent" > Prepared to not compromised on this despite her restrictions as a Chi assasin from Wufeng. She seems to have the skills but do not wish to use it unless in a corner (the mud fight, her worrying about the true Yu Wei Shang she is replacing, her trying to protect or to have sisterhood, ...) * The teacup drank then reversed when done in the same way the Raven do (ep4 mid) > show mannerism for being in contact with Raven while drinking tea but it should have happen very few times. So, why adopt such mannerism or even how ? * Her trainer ready to free her at the end > obviously a lie but it shows how perseverant and willing she is to gain her freedom back. I also feel she understood very quicly that ranking higher will not help her gain her freedom but instead drag her even more to the bottom with more killings, more secrets so more reasons to eliminate her * Getting caught on purpose to strike more opportunities > It's shown in the first episode with the poisons test. She first drink the poison, pusposefully getting wrong, then only does she take the medecine. Why ? Because the medecine only works if she drinks the poison. If she had taken the medecine only, she would have been poisoned or receiving toxins. Her strategy is then about making silly and confusing mistakes (drinking poison) in order to gain more (empathy, attention, ... = medecine). If she had gone first for attention or empathy, she would have been very suspicious in the eyes of Gong Zi Yu.
She knows what she is doing and hers plans are either very well crafted OR she is smart and skilled enough to act quick and fast without much planning...
This drama growns on you. I didn't have much expectations and just knew Lee Yoo Mi would deliver great acting. Mental health and universal values from sport hits home. The journey from acknowledging how hurt you are in order to face it, and how complicated, tough and confusing it's to grow out of it, is well represented. I also love how they show that being mentally hurt is as painful than physical pain and can be very frustrating to handle. For athletes who are used to push further their limits (physical and mental) in order to fit in toxics standards, it's going to be very interesting how they will stand up for themselves and ask for respect of their own limits. I'm also looking forward to learn more advices and life lessons from this drama.
This is an s+ drama and she's not popular enough to get the main role, not that deep. She'll get recognition if…
Wan Peng is a great actress but lack some recognition, botch in China and internationnaly. Esther Yu is pretty popular, both in China and internationnaly, because of her unexpected path to popularity, her funny personnality and her great sense to pick popular and quality shows/dramas/tv-reality.
After debuting as an actress, she tried to be an idol. She participated as a contestant in Youth with you 2 (similar to produce 101 but made in China) with Lisa from Blackpink (as a coach). She ended up making it in the final group THE9 in 2nd place. She has a very different personnality as a funny-drama-queen and really shone, not only with skills but also with her interesting personality, in the competition. To the point that she was an assistant to help the male trainees in the Youth with you 3. The success of the show helped her gain even more recognition and popularity. Plus, she has a knack to make funny things that are easy to spread as memes and short videos.
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We have a just balance of ation, politics, romance and comedy without any of those themes cannibalizing the other(s).
FL : The FL is a very captivating woman showing an easy to grasp for the audience but complex personnility. And damn, she is coherent, a bit petty, calm and doesn't just act like a badass but IS ! A very well portrayed woman with an impressive set of technical skills but able to acknowledge her lack of social and emotionnal skills. At the same time, her vulnerabilite make her into an even more in depth charachter. I feel like it's a refreshing portrayal of feminity...
PLOT : The plot complement very well the whole package about the characters with buddies and comradeship, trust, growth, romance and the right amount of comedic gold... So, the first episodes are a very good introduction to both the plot (espeially some of the key stakes) AND the charachters. Without forgetting a good rythm and sense of timing making it feel very well done.
cINEMATOGRAPHY : The cinematography is also to admire in some fighting scenes but I was expecting a bit more whith what the trailer showed us.
AcTING : Well, no doubt to have with Liu Shi Shi. For her last dramas, she has a knack to pick up script with FL who are interesting, realistic and are never too black and white. Same with Liu Yu Ning ! Facing such a legend like a Liu Shi Shi is one damn challenge and he pass it. Their acting is so good, it's impossible to confond them with the previous charachters they played. Something hard to see in cdrama beause they tend to typecast. (not only in cdrama btw)
I'm going to rewatch all their previous dramas, because, damn they do deliver !
This man is only good for breathing and staring out the window.
He is doing nothing to solve any issues, worth nothing, being a self rightous prick, unexpected violence, miscommunication, ...
HQ didn't just dodge a bullet, she dodged an egocentric bazooka ! You go girl !
I can't figure out why it can only be a dream and not just her remembering her journey...
What if she is indeed in a coma and reliving that 2nd life beause the pain reminds her of the long and rough path she had ?
She is so sensible to pain maybe she holds on her memories to be distrated.
I'm a bit at loss to why it can only be a dream and not memories. What are your takes on that ?
You can also notice that the basic outplan is very similar when tackling those same subjects.
For the firefighters, we find a girl being saved by a man she kind of fall for or that she met years ago, their reunion thanks to or because of work, their struggles to understand each other, how the man firefighter is trying to reject the girl because his job can be deadly, and how they end up together to bring the best out of each other.
The list of cdrama about firefighters : "Birght eyes from the dark", "Fireworks of my heart", "A date with the future" (the closest one to "bright eyes" in terms of plot), "The Flaming Heart", ...
Between 2020 and 2022 we had like 4 cdrama about athletes in the diverse range of ice skating : "To Fly With You", "Skate Into Love", "My Unicorn Girl", "To Our Dreamland of Ice".
Same with soldiers ("You are my hero", "My Dear Guardian"), lawyers, doctors, ...
Actually, the more I think about it, the more it would make sense about his mother. What if she was the og Anonymous, so on a level higher than Mei. But she fell pregnant. And then, as any other wufeng or women felt so trapped. She was a bird in a cage in the Gong's residence but a mere chesspiece in Wufeng. Worse, she had a baby who was able to have the freedom she so longed for. So she poisons herself leading to GYZ being premature and prone to cold.
Then, for Anonymous, what if instead of one person it's all or a few wufeng's assassins who are using this terrifying identity to break heavoc. There are other wufeng members who came into the Gong residence that are still playing the long game. A mystery as legendary is much more terrifying and easy to draw chaos than just accomplishing the wufeng's missions.
Even better, it would be interesting if some either died but might also have survived the Death Oath with the back hill so happen to switch sides...
SGQ is bold and takes risky moves because she can be overconfident. The warning of GSJ about the chess piece can be foreshadowing their relationship together. He seems to have the upper hand but in the end, she will have more. However, by acting smart she can forget to be wise.
But YWS stays quite mysterious and is constantly adapting. Indeed, it always gives us the feeling she is going with the flow and seems rather silly by making mistakes. But, in the end, we never really know what she is really up to. Her relationship with GZY is also hard to define because she seems confused instead of sure of herself.
Plus, what do we do about the hints she found about Anonymous or Wulji. Is she going to use it ? It can also be interesting.
I feel like she either lie about her actual level or she purposely sabotaged herself to be on the Chi level instead of more.
Here are the few hints I see :
* "I don't kill the innocent" > Prepared to not compromised on this despite her restrictions as a Chi assasin from Wufeng. She seems to have the skills but do not wish to use it unless in a corner (the mud fight, her worrying about the true Yu Wei Shang she is replacing, her trying to protect or to have sisterhood, ...)
* The teacup drank then reversed when done in the same way the Raven do (ep4 mid) > show mannerism for being in contact with Raven while drinking tea but it should have happen very few times. So, why adopt such mannerism or even how ?
* Her trainer ready to free her at the end > obviously a lie but it shows how perseverant and willing she is to gain her freedom back. I also feel she understood very quicly that ranking higher will not help her gain her freedom but instead drag her even more to the bottom with more killings, more secrets so more reasons to eliminate her
* Getting caught on purpose to strike more opportunities > It's shown in the first episode with the poisons test. She first drink the poison, pusposefully getting wrong, then only does she take the medecine. Why ? Because the medecine only works if she drinks the poison. If she had taken the medecine only, she would have been poisoned or receiving toxins. Her strategy is then about making silly and confusing mistakes (drinking poison) in order to gain more (empathy, attention, ... = medecine). If she had gone first for attention or empathy, she would have been very suspicious in the eyes of Gong Zi Yu.
She knows what she is doing and hers plans are either very well crafted OR she is smart and skilled enough to act quick and fast without much planning...
Mental health and universal values from sport hits home. The journey from acknowledging how hurt you are in order to face it, and how complicated, tough and confusing it's to grow out of it, is well represented.
I also love how they show that being mentally hurt is as painful than physical pain and can be very frustrating to handle. For athletes who are used to push further their limits (physical and mental) in order to fit in toxics standards, it's going to be very interesting how they will stand up for themselves and ask for respect of their own limits.
I'm also looking forward to learn more advices and life lessons from this drama.
Esther Yu is pretty popular, both in China and internationnaly, because of her unexpected path to popularity, her funny personnality and her great sense to pick popular and quality shows/dramas/tv-reality.
After debuting as an actress, she tried to be an idol. She participated as a contestant in Youth with you 2 (similar to produce 101 but made in China) with Lisa from Blackpink (as a coach). She ended up making it in the final group THE9 in 2nd place.
She has a very different personnality as a funny-drama-queen and really shone, not only with skills but also with her interesting personality, in the competition.
To the point that she was an assistant to help the male trainees in the Youth with you 3.
The success of the show helped her gain even more recognition and popularity. Plus, she has a knack to make funny things that are easy to spread as memes and short videos.