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Yeah, it is lowkey disrespectful and shows that she doesn't value him that much. She did it the first time when she chose to speak to Lizheng before him even though he had asked her to talk first. Then she did it again in ep 6. It's like she was so secure in his feelings for her that she felt it was okay to walk all over him and he wouldn't care.

If someone treats you like that, you can be sure they don't really have much affection for you which is why I find her crying to be more out of self pity than any recognition of the hurt she caused others. And her showing interest in him again after all that, she certainly has audacity, I will give her that.

Liu continued with her confused behaviour in ep 6. At least, she finally came out and was honest about wanting to interact with the two guys- Youling and Lizheng before deciding her feelings. However, she continues to show complete disregard for Youling's feelings, leaving him to chase after Lizheng and then coming back after being rejected for whatever reason. I'm happy Lizheng didn't give in to her again.

The way she got up the next day and pretended that she was fine with Lizheng no longer being interested and Youling ignoring her was funny. I will accept it all, she said and I actually thought she was being real until we got a preview of her having another tearful breakdown and possibly wanting to leave the show. So dramatic. She probably didn't think her actions would result in them all abandoning her like that. Lol.

At least, Youling and Danqi are now making progress. I can only hope that he stays on that course and doesn't go back to Liu even though she has decided to chase him now and they will obviously end up going on dates. All that drama about not being ready to commit to interacting with only one person, only for her to fall back to doing just that because she scared all her suitors off. Ridiculous.

I say she craves attention because she doesn't exactly have feelings for either men yet but refrains from being completely honest about that especially with Youling because she likes having his interest. She enjoys the feeling of being liked which is why she doesn't really put up boundaries when a new guy shows interest in her.

Not into the term red flag because it's overused.

However, Liu is a self absorbed, immature young lady who seems to deeply crave attention. She lied to both and pretended she was more interested and committed than she actually was. If a guy was telling one girl he was committed to getting to know only her while telling another to not give up on pursuing him because he is still interested, fans would drag him to filth.

Danqi was so pretty and so cool on her date with Youling. I hope things work out between them because if he ends up with Liu, I fear for his sanity.

The people who said Liu Liu wasn't keeping fish last week should come explain to me what her confused behaviour and lies from ep 5 actually mean because I don't get it.😒

Danqi never said she was sure about Zhuoran. She only showed major interest in him compared to the other guys. They were just getting to know each other in the first few eps so she was obviously observing and figuring out if he was as much of a right fit for her as she believed while taking into account the personalities of the other men in the house.

People forget that apart the destined thing that came up on the same night of the job reveal, the issues with the differences in their diet was also revealed. She had told him that they were eating delicious food downstairs and he had said he didn't want any and he had already eaten something else more in line with his diet

The destined response was already causing her to overthink and the food thing probably added to her worry. She likely thought things were moving too fast and it would be best to take a step back and reorganize her thoughts and feelings.

I agree Zhou's behaviour being quite business like in terms of someone expecting returns on an investment. But I also think, in a way, on a dating show, everyone puts in effort to get their interests to return their affection. So while Zhou is overly transactional with regard to relationships, he is not entirely wrong as to the main end.

No show of affection on a dating show is truly unconditional so I'm not sure how Zhou is expected to be any different considering who he is. Look at Peixuan and Tata and even based on Jianying's words, every one wants their strong feelings reciprocated. No one is going to keep putting in effort if the other side doesn't show any sort of affection in return.

You've hit on some major points. Liu is not straightforward. She has never been. Like you said BK is her first choice and Zhou was never her first choice. Even now, I don't think he is. She said he is her 2nd choice but shouldn't she have more affection for him then. She basically put Lizheng on the same level as him as soon as he came. We're yet to see how things play out with Jiyu. But it's obvious that she doesn't really have strong feelings for him. And that's the problem.

Liu didn't feel strongly about Youling when it was just BK and YL interacting with her. Even now, he is still in the same bracket as Lizheng with the moments and other things. Isn't that a clear enough sign of her current feelings? I'm not asking that she jump from one romantic possibility into another but is it too much to ask for her to just be honest about her current state. She practically told Youling that she thought he was treating her like a little sister, trying to make it seem like she didn't notice his interest in her. Like, no, that is not true and let's not even do that.

She might not have led anyone on as you say but her interactions since the start of the program have lacked honesty and clarity. Her moments are always vague, her words ambiguous to keep all her suitors satisfied and the unnecessary bracelet switiching. She has never been clear or straightforward with anyone and so far, she can barely answer YL's direct quetsions because she is afraid of losing her "interests" before she is ready to make a choice. She can socialize as much as she wants with the men who show interest in her but she needs to stop feigning being clueless and hiding behind ambiguity when those men ask for clarity.

She is not the first person nor will she be the last to have many men interested in her. Some have done worse than her, true but there are also others who have handled the situation with more grace and fortrightness, showing respect for the other party's affections and time.

Zhou is too business-like in his approach to relationships as you say. But it's not about Liu being a business project to him and I don't think his impatience majorly stems from the other male participants but the clarity he can see in the choices of the other female participants. Like he said everyone is pretty straightforward. Tata is clear that she likes BK, Peixuan is into Wentao, Jianying also favours Wentao and that is clear to even Zhuoran and Danqi is clear in her feelings for YL as well. Even the guys are pretty clear until they get rejected like Zhuoran. Youling himself who had 5 women showing interest in him at one point is pretty clear as well with Liu being his main focus while also having a slight interest in Danqi.

The only person in that house who seems unclear is Liu Liu and she seems to get more confused with every new participant while you have BK who stays the same even when the catfish joins.

Understandably, everyone moves at different paces and Liu has every right to take her time. Unfortunately, Youling sees this, makes comparisons and is even more frustrated. This is why he is probably asking for clarity and Liu needs to stop immaturely avoiding the convo and be honest.

I honestly don't think Youling expects Liu to choose him. The man has a lot of pride but he is not stupid. He knows very clearly what the current situation is which is why he called her out on it. I also don't think that he will give up entirely if she says she wants to get to know other guys but like her, he will likely also allow himself to get to know someone else who is interested in him before making a choice. That's what I expect anyway.

You're overlooking the main point of Youling's frustration. It's not really about her interest in others but her lack of interest in him. He is a pretty observant person.

He knows she has barely checked his moments and has always made her moments vague, sending it to not just him but others. She makes no move to spend time with him outside of the required dates and when a new guy comes along, she puts them on the same level as him in terms of interest and interactions. All of that signals to him that she doesn't really like him and all his efforts to win her heart have been basically meaningless. He probably thinks that she is likely just stringing him along and he is kind of fed up with that.

He is therefore asking direct questions which he partially knows the answer to. His questions are basically - am I special to you or am I just like every other guy who shows interest in you? If I am special to you then say and show it and I will reciprocate. If I am not, then let me know as well. This way he can also take a chance with someone who has obvious feelings for him instead of just hanging onto someone who might never grow to like him as much.

Unfortunately, so far, Liu doesn't want to give direct answers to those questions. A simple question like do you want to get to know other guys should be easy to answer but Liu is wary of doing so because she knows Youling will start paying less attention to her. He knows he has no right to stop her from interacting with others but he also doesn't want to put all his effort on chasing someone who he is not a priority for, which is his right.

If she is confused about how she feels and needs time to get clarity on her interest in the 3 men, then that's fine. She just needs to make that clear. Some people might not be bothered by that and might be willing to wait patiently for her to date others and understand her feelings but it's not an obligation. And Youling is basically asking for clarity in order to decide whether or not to move on from a situation that he is not happy being apart of.

Yeah, they seem great together. I hope it works out.

Yay, the Danqi and Youling love line is finally seeing progress. It's going to be tough since Youling obviously still likes Liu very much but I'm here for all the sweet moments I can get from my Danqi and Youling ship.

Will be shipping Danqi and Youling. I like them together.

I don't actually think that much of it. What I'm basically saying is that it is obviously made up tension by the PD. Like they kept showing YG, WY and the others looking awkward after GY's attempt at probably teasing the "couple".

Even when Minju came and the moment had obviously passed, they kept showing the same uncomfortable looks to drive a narrative. Were the others so frozen and so bored of each other that they couldn't strike up their own convo. I'm not buying that and I'm really tired of the direction the show is going. I've lost the motivation to keep up with their convoluted timelines and twisted narratives. I'm out. There are better things to spend my time on. Might be tempted to come back and see the finale, though

Okay, I'm officially done with the show. The forced drama between the girls is making my eyeballs pop in annoyance. Glad WY gave SY closure, though. Maybe he does the same with GY next episode but I have decided to stop caring.

What a limited view. Just because I don't approve of someone's behaviour, it doesn't mean that I am out to make that person a villain. I'm allowed to dislike something and call it out based on my perpective. Anyway, we have agreed to disagree. Just end it here. Lol.

That was the whole point in the 1st place.

This isn't a drama. He is just a regular annoying human being.

I'm already being decent so I don't know what you're talking about. Stop talking about extremes like marriage to excuse his wishy washy behaviour. He didn't ask her to marry him but he did things that would make people think he liked them, whether intentional or not.

I could give a free pass for Gyuri because he was genuinely interested in her initially and they both went on dates with different people anyway but pls let's not lie, he wasn't attracted to or interested in So Yoon in the least. It was pretty obvious from how he acted.

The girls are grown but they are humans with feelings and based on that consideration, one should act carefully and cut off people when they are sure it's not going to work. It will still hurt and So Yoon will probably still try to get close to him but at least, she would know where she stands and won't be left feeling stupid.

I never said they bought the rings and made a commitment but he is not dumb. So Yoon kept suggesting and saying things to test whether he was interested in her or not. The rings also fell in that bracket but he played Mr. Polite and put the ring on and took pictures. Like, give me a break.

I could care less about what Mingyu did or did not do. I clocked out of that season when I was sure Jumi was ending up alone. And it doesn't make sense to bring up someone else's "bad" behaviour to cover up another person's less than stellar conduct.

No one is jumping to conclusions. They are all adults. JH ad SW went on dates but they didn't leave the people they weren't interested in, confused. WY is the kid that likes to open books at the library and leave them on the table like he is coming back to read them.

There's no ifs and buts. Dating show or not, he should have been careful. He is not the first or last man to be on a dating show and have the interest of more than one person. He acted in a very thoughtless manner. And this is coming from someone who initially felt that he was the most thoughtful male cast member. I do not like his behaviour. You can spin it however you want and defend him as much as you want but my point still stands.

That's a BS excuse. He is not a child that can't recognize how he feels. He himself admits that he was trying to get closer to YG onthe boat because he had stronger feelings for her. So every other thing he was doing with the other girls just seemed like he was securing a backup plan if things didn't work out with Yugyeong.

He obviously wasn't into So Yoon but he still sent her a msg after their date. He and YG had talked and planned to go on a movie date together before this. He was obviously confusing her. Compare this to JH and SW who knew they weren't interested in SY so they didn't text her after their dates.

Then, WY again was still making faces at Gyuri and asking her to choose him for the 2nd date in Japan after flirting with YG as well.

No matter how you spin it, he behaved in a selfish and inconsiderate manner. He was afraid to stick to the one girl he was truly interested in so he pulled in the other girls with his charm so he wouldn't end up alone if he got rejected by his OTP.

I'm honestly not against people exploring and I even get bored when couples get together too quickly but I seriously hate it when someone does more than necessary especially when they're not as interested as they seem. It's a dating show and yes, people are bound to get hurt, no matter what but don't make things harder for others by doing or saying things you don't mean.

I watched the livestream and saw some vids on twitter. The ep with subs won't be released till tomorrow for international fans.