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Anyone else going back to TharnType just to see Jeno & Chris as Seo and Klui.. lol. I loved those guys..

Mu Ren & Li Cheng, Probably the most genuine, loving, heart breaking episode I have watched from any season of any show. I felt like I was the one experiencing this rejection.

Very little info on Fluke.. Is he new? He is my favourite actor in this series thus far. I mean, everyone is good, but I feel the character Tong Fha's feelings more than I do the others.

Still cant find a sub for ep4 :(

How?

We have all come to accept that bl's have toxic characters. Both male and female. Somethings they do scream stalker serial killer. I tend to just let that shit slide. What I can't let slide is the fact that at the end of the day Gene is Aoey's superior in the work place. He helped cast Aoey. No matter how psychotic Aoey is, surly, SURLY, he'd let this slide more than others. How can he be emotionally healthy when it comes to family life, but full on emotionally stunted with relationships. The vibe is upsetting and for me it takes away from the rest of the storyline which I think is very well done.

Sometimes I cry watching shows.. I nearly need therapy after ep 16.. I mean you could tell it was going to happen but part of you still wished it wouldn't.. I can't see him shooting them both dead, because what would the last 4 episodes be about? Who thought it was acceptable to make us wait two weeks for more, I'm only just coping with the one week!

I love Mark Kit, it is why I watched this series. Am I the only one concerned that the writers thought oh the Tong-Sandee-Pok storyline was a good idea?? Honestly its a toss up between Sandee & Padbok who is more toxic?.

I did notice Li Cheng do that. He didn't simply hold Mu Ren's hand. Both of Li Cheng's hands moved down past Ren's chest. Their faces were touching and I assumed that was Cheng's hand on Ren's neck. He wasn't in fear of going under the water, therefore it came across as more of a caress. I loved how they transitioned from Ren trying to remember to Cheng dreaming. How much of it actually happened, we don't know.

I can not imagine being in that position, with mixed emotions for an individual in Ren's condition. Everyone has different boundaries but for me, I would be okay with Cheng's actions. I feel they are innocent. He saved and looked after his friend. There was a moment but he didn't kiss, or touch below the waist. But he did touch his chest, and I am thinking if you change chest with breast, I do feel a bit more stand off-ish, which isn't right for me to do so. Why is it okay for a male chest, but not a female. It is a double standard, but is it mine, or is it what society has thought me, I must think about this more before tomorrow. In this moment, I am okay with everything. It's all understandable and forgivable. Forgive what he did but glad he feels guilty. He needs to feel guilty to prove the innocence of it all..

I have been through a lot in my life and the only way for me to be able to forgive other people (and myself) has been to research what causes us to think and do the things we do. My parents were unable to show me love, because they were never shown love, I can not hate them for that. I in-turn spent years punishing myself in many ways for not being "perfect", I had to forgive myself for being my own biggest bully, when I needed to be my own best friend. It is harder to forgive myself though. That is why I always look at someone's past to understand their current actions. If Yong Jie had been shown love and affection (& was a real person) then I know he wouldn't behave that way. He has never felt love from himself or anyone else so he wants to hold onto Xing because he doesn't think anyone else could ever love him. It really breaks my heart.

I wonder, if deep down there is ever a glimmer of hope for a sociopath, but I feel you are correct. We are not advanced enough yet to know why some people are born with the ability to do great harm, all I can think of is they are here to provide balance for those who do good. Making life what it is, an experience to understand all emotions. How can you tell you are happy, if you have never been sad?

SamYu probably my favourite bl cople. I really like their relationship. Looking forward to S3.
Yu Zhen Xuan gives me anxiety. If it was real like and someone was interested in me in that way, I would feel suffocated, trapped and scared. It is not a cute character in any way.

This is exactly why I do my best to have zero labels or any "tribe", some bullshit rules are required and if you don't play along you are shunned. A bad person. We are all individual and we all make mistakes, that is part of life. I tried so hard to fit in as a child / teen that now I just want to feel free and I do not care if I end up alone because of it. Being a "good or bad" person has zero to do with any sexual preference, skin colour, job, food we eat, religion, no religion, etc.. Shitty people come from every "tribe" good people come from every "tribe".

If people want fluff then the HIStory series are not for them. I love it because it's life. It isn't always pretty and it doesn't always have a happy ending. There are series that I don't like, but I don't feel like every series has to be to my liking otherwise the whole world would need to think like I do, and for sure that is not the case.

People need to ask themselves why they feel "sick", to me that is a judgement, which can possibly show a limitation in our world view. I am very interested in why people think and act the way they do. I have learned that when someone does something I wouldn't, it doesn't mean they are wrong, they have a different approach and what they did was the best thing for them, even if it is something toxic, they did what they needed to do to protect themselves in that situation. What they did might even be the thing I should do, but I don't because I have some fear of rejection, insecurity or lack of self love.

I feel I am off on a rant and not really making any sense, so I'll leave it at this. I personally really enjoy this series.

When homophobia is deemed as wrong (countless bl's have lines like "it is abnormal" and "shame to the family") then I can see why they want to write characters as good people who do nothing wrong and should be accepted. The thing is, humans are flawed by nature, it has nothing to do with sexual preference. I like the shows that are more realistic. Good people who sometimes say or do shitty things because that's life, those are mistakes we grow from. If people like fluff then the first 3 HIStory's should have shown that these do not provide that type of content.

When they get out, they have a high chance of reoffending, because they aren't given therapy. I never once said what he did is okay, I was saying his actions have come from someone who hasn't processed his childhood. That no one is bad, they are hurting and acting out.

It would be great if they stuck with the fans fighting between Aoey & Gene as the person they want with Sib.. They could have gone an angle to show how shipping can be toxic, but now it will be diluted with Aoey acting like an asshole. I really liked how they made him a strong person dealing with his home life, he's mentally mature there, but immature in relationships. I mean, we don't know how it is going to go, maybe they do a good job, but from the teaser for next week, I nearly don't want to watch it and pretend like it ends here.

A hurt person is someone who does bad things. We are all born with no judgement or hate, just pure love.. Life and the people in it shape us. If we are unable to process our feelings, we do what we need to do to survive. Bad actions follow, because we don't know the healthy way.. We can learn the healthy way and change our actions.. What he is doing is bad, but he still has the mentality of a hurt child and does not know any other way. That's why he needs therapy.

I feel if I rang someone that many times, they would be less likely to pick up as I would come across strange. 1-2 Text, a voicemail, 5-9 calls max.. But I am aware that is just how I would handle the situation, and there is no right or wrong. I just laughed when I was 31..

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When Gene just held him and protected him from being hit.. My heart... And then when they are sitting drinking water and little Sib copies the way young Gene is sitting.... ADORABLE!!

Yeah, I sighed.. Aoey doesn't own Sib and he's not entitled to him just because he likes him.. Plus Sib has shown numerous times that he does not like Aoey... But now they have this whole "you are bad" bit.. ugh!