And he was all in blue, that was also what always got to me, that blue. And those hints, like when he says "I envy a group of close friends gathering together" and that little smile then. Argh, poor guy. But UTW's father character was also rather bad type.I don't think I ever apporred of how hardened he was and that family was already quite broken apart, but I always had a feeling of clumsy warmth emanating from UTW as he tried to make do with the world he had. Ultimately, a good, if extreme, thing happened to him because he had to reexamine himself. It's hard for me to agree or disagree at this point about Equator man, I will need to reexamine Equator man at some point more carefully after my catharthic experience with the Devil.
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Except the devil knew all about him and as free to torture him, by evoking images of his past-because he knew and understood him so well.. but in the final confrontation, I did feel it was like struggle between light and dark, where light refused to kill and it b4rought out the shadow to the light, I felt they emerged even at the end. Still, their shared story made them really connected in that twisted way, it allowed the existence of "the devil" in the first place.
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lol Mirichan, when I started out in dramas I almost always checked the ending firat, I think I couldn;t stop a drama in the middle, unless it was reeeallly bad. By the way, have you seen any episodes of the Taira no kiyomori? I wonder if it's still being subbed...
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And more, this drama was so brilliantly about twisted partnership- one would not exist without the other. If one sinks, the other has to sink too. But that ending, I am still feeling the relief it brought. And yes you're right about UTW- yes he is more levelled because he made the decision not to run away from it in order to try and be redeemed. but he was losing it at the end when the inferno reached his closest family members. And yet..he didn't make the same mistake twice. That wolrd, was being ripped piece by piece by a man who was in so much despair after the incident so amny years ago. His surpsie at the end , his eyes in that ending scene...it was so difficult to take it at first and then...of the relief of eternal sleep, like two brothers. The only one I pitied was Shin Min Ah in the end...and my uess is she;d never be an object reader after THAT.
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Yep, episode 6 things really begin in full swing, also noticeable is SMA's smaller role, whch is exactly right, she was needed for building up some tensions up to ep 6, where the connection began to emerge. I understand her, he did creep me out too until I understood what was happening in that heart of his and then my heart bled for him too, such a nice boy he used to be. I wonder if the ending will make her change her mind. But because we were following more UTW, I was really captured by his doubts and by his sense of loss and then by the anguish he was being led through. It was like watching his world crumble and fall as he journeyed through inferno. The inferno which JiHoo went through and wanted to become reflected in him, to be felt by him, to know the pain of the world ending. Hence the ending was so beautiful,the relief it brought.That was a happy ending of sorts, I thought.
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Yes it is a time enjoyed is not time wasted :) whatever works for you, Mirichan, as long as you can destress, but do you ever finish those stories?
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Oh, that's great o hear then! :) I've been enjoying my last days here, enjoying the sun too- we've had a spell of very warm weather lately. I am preparing for travel soon and watching some dramas :)
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Also, I think one of the problem with MARS is that it didn't build it up appropriately and instead focused on throwing everything it could into the plot..it was emotional in a sense but lacked the thrilling momentum, which was very perceivable in Mawang. Mawang built up the thrill first and later, starting with episode 7-8 started banging down with heavy amunition of emotions. But MARS is not really a suspense drama, and should not be expected to be. It's more of a love story which bings in other elements to show a process of coming together, dealing with the past, indeed-healing- and of moving on to happier life and I really think this drama is excellent from drama newbies and for those looking for comprehensive dramas- though I still think the ending lacked something, its thematic richness somehow remained not fulfilled completely. There I am writing more epistles! :P
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Perhaps I would have liked it more in Korean/Japanese version, because I am also not to keen on taiwanese dramas most of the time. I even started to imagine Kimutaku in one of the characters, to be honest. I think this is a drama for drama newbies to watch because of its many many themes and because as far as taiwanese dramas go, this is a good one, acted out naturally and with good chemistry. I didn't feel any artificiality, it was somehow so..normal- well, when it could be and it was touching. And I agree wth you- yes the evil ones are usually more challenging on all levels and it's interesting when dramas do echieve an "evil" character who evokes sympathy. Better yet if it;s made difficult to see who is "evil" and '"good" because in reality such clear cut distinctions are non-existent.
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Well I initially was intrigued that you recommended it, to be fair, and it piqued my curiosity immensely and I understand why you thought it's a good idea and I'm very grateful that you did!
I don't think your recommendation was bad, either, as in Vic there is a similar kind of struggle as in UTW's character in the devil- am I good or bad? Can i be forgiven? Can i move on and live normally and then the drama focused so much on him I was almost afraid it forogt about Qi luo and her fragility- she was veryr elatable, especially in episode 13. I ended up liking the drama, I was particulary happy for the resolution of the father-son storylinee- the father/uncle deserved family after all he;s been through and that;s what this drama showed too- a process of forming, piecing together a family. but this feeling is very lukewarm, admittedly.
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w kazdym rzie mars moze poczekac. Slyszalam tez ze Autumn;s Conceeto jest nizla tajwanska drama wiec sobie obejrze moze potem ale chyba najpierw ice world i maou. Sama nie wiemm jeszcze. To milego ogladania! :) bede czekac na jakies wiadomosci :P
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ale wiesz byl moment ze myslalam ze ta drama rzuce bo moze wydawac sie za duzo teo wszystkiego...bardzo jestem ciekawa jak Ci sie spodoba czy jak bedziesz miala zamiar rzucic ja w diably.
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no wiesz, z drugiej strony wciagajaca do tej dramy to tez nie to, ona jest emocjonalna dosc i niektore fragmenty byly takie ze mnie wlepialy w ekran, czesc musialam ominac bo mnie wkurzalo, np ok odcinka 7-8 nie moglam chwilowo zniesc pewnej sytuacji. Ale potem np odcinek 13 mnie poruszyl...ogolnie rzecz biorac istoria jest dobrze opowiedziana. oo, zmeczylas sie troche ta Korea? Szczerze mowiac, tutaj gra aktorska byla jak dla mnie normlna, wrecz wysciszona. Sa bardzo wzruszajace momenty - ktorych zdradzic nie moge, gdzie to naprawde jak dla mnie jest calkiem naturalne. poza tym Vic i Barbie byliy razem tez i na prawde w owym czasie, wiec chemia na pewno bedzie naturalna. Wszystko to wyszlo jakos tak jak trzeba jesli chodzi o sama chakrateryzacje postaci Mysle za latwo sie bedzie utozsmamic szczegolnie z bohaterka, sztucznosci czy przesadnosci nie odczulam w sumie.
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a poza tym przy tym swoim bogactwie wszystko wlasciwe tam wrzucala, w tym wkurzajaca byla dziewczyne np. no ale warto zobaczyc z raz, bo jest tego tyle ze na pewno znajdzie sie cos, doc zego mozna sie bedzie ustosunkowac. Nie wiem, moze ja po porstu nadal jestem pod wpywem mawanga. podobalo mi sie ogolnie, wciagnely mnie niektore watki, bo to jest drama ktora emocje wciaga i moze wycienczyc widza, obejrzalam drame od wczoraj wlasciwe i zakonczenie mnie w sumie ucieszylo..no ale moze na tym skoncze na razie, w kazdym razie ta drama jest dla mnie zarazem bardzo ladna i momentami plakac sie za bohaterow chce i sa urocze momenty i jest pryjazn i relacje z rodzicami i czego tam nie ma! no ale moze skoncze na tym. mysle ze warto obejrzec, chociazby dlatego ze ma w sobie tak duzo tematow i watkow, a niektore sa bardzo poruszajace.
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Vic jest raczej aktorem stworzonym do okresleoego typu rol - do tej pasowal i dobra chemie mial z Barbie Hsu, po porau odcinkac to moze Cie bardzo wciagnac, ale moim zdaniem drama troche za duzo probowala zrobic w tym wszystki i koncowy rezultat, mimo ze ladny i bardzo dobrze ze taki jest, nie daje takie efektu jak np mial na mnie mawang, mimo ze zakonczenie mi sie podobalo, to ma jakis niedosyt, czegos mi zabraklo. Ale drama ma ciekawe watki, ktore intryguja widza na poczatku, hitoria obu bohaterow jest dobrze ptoraktowana i drama wcale nieglupia oglniea w recz przeciwnie bardzo ladna, tylko mam jakis niedosyt. Tpo jest drama ktora waha sie dla mnie miedzy 7 a 8. Daje jej 8 bo przemawia za nia jej bogactwo, porzuszenie trudnych tematow i zrobienie tego z pewna wrazliwoscia, przy tym historia sameych boaterow jest satysfakcnoujaca i ?adna, ale w koncowce czegos mi zabraklo po porstu a
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I could relaqte to that sense of shame. I cannot, however, relate to the mother's denials of what happened. Yes, she was ill and used the opportunity, but I dn't think that justifies her. I could, perphaps, understand if it was for any other man but even then your daughter-in pain!- should come first. But this is in the realm of debate, as it is likely for a woman like QL's mom to act in this way in denial. So while I dislike it, I do find it realistic. But yes, somehow when I finished I felt that something was forgotten somewhere along the way. Maybe they should have included her mother again..? I don't know, I feel very lukewarm about this drama, somehow. I really felt much mroe strongly about Mawang. But I was happy it ended on a happy note, even of something wasn't entirely right these two deserved a break. I wrote all this in a wordpad and I left some things out for now.
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finally he isn't lonely anymore and that talk of children was in the context of the drama somehow strenghtening- and thethree of them reached some peace and quiet, having fought battles within themselves. A family was finally formed and that was really touching. I think the final moments when Shen appeared were needed for this character to show the choice he has made and ive closure to his progress. He wasn;t going to be burdened by his past anymore. He stopped being self-destructive. That;s why I did appreciate the appearance of that other boy and even his reeapparance in the final moments of the drama. What I found interesting is the way he was presented as attracted to Ling and his obsession. The ending of episode 13 was very heartbreaking. I am still not sure whether this is how it should have been done, even though she would have never said anything otherwise probably.
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I also liked how they neatly contrasted the two firms- the Miko-san's one was all grey while the other one an oassis of Komikado's eccentric lifestyle. But I don't kniw what it is, despite all he was very likeable. UI am recommending this drama to everyone who I think would be able to appreciate it, it should be seen. There is another drama that sounds simlar to this, Meitantei no Okite with Matsuda Shota. I like him, but sice he;s everywhere I am finding myself a little fed up with his cool image. Masai was fresh, I am happy to have discovered him. I have reached th end of MARS. I was annoyed by the return of the step dad, which sent the mother into denial and I really felt for Qi Luo. That episode really made me mad. I was happy with the final four episodes inasmuch as the uncle-father was given some credit for his efforts and love, too.
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haha that's great then - we can have essay-like exchanges, if you feel like it. I am really impressed with Masai, his character was always on to something. But the butler was no less interesting. I will be rewatching legal high soon I think, it's not only clever, but somehow served in a very attractive package. I won't soon forget the climax of the series..i think that particular scene at the end of ep 11 in the office was a very good summary of the whole series, I was afraid it may get too formulaic at first. But when I got specially to episodes 9-11 I frgot about those concerns, especially when I saw what a master plotter Komikado is. But I sure hoped he could lose for once...but then the drama would have become a standard drama most likely. Even so, the bickering throughout the series and the soothing confidant type of the know-it all butler were a charmer- a really sellable point.
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haha so do we :D I always thought breaks are some of the best part of being in school. I remeber Ifelt so great bei g a university student for the first time-not yet having classes bu having three-month holidays, the longest in my life. Mostly did some work on my chapters, did some translating for extra work and took part in a fair, a cultural event I tried to help with and planned out some of my classes for next semester. And of course watched dramas and had lovely time talking to people on here. What do you like to do in your free holiday time?
I don't think your recommendation was bad, either, as in Vic there is a similar kind of struggle as in UTW's character in the devil- am I good or bad? Can i be forgiven? Can i move on and live normally and then the drama focused so much on him I was almost afraid it forogt about Qi luo and her fragility- she was veryr elatable, especially in episode 13. I ended up liking the drama, I was particulary happy for the resolution of the father-son storylinee- the father/uncle deserved family after all he;s been through and that;s what this drama showed too- a process of forming, piecing together a family. but this feeling is very lukewarm, admittedly.