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Viki finished The Untamed. it's still there. The subs are pretty much the same at all these sites. They are subbed by volunteers, so if you care about grammar, spelling, and correct word choice, you'll have to remember "Volunteers." The site with the fewest errors is Netflix.

Yeah,, and the eps are coming at a glacial dribble, sigh.

These are all good points, though I still think she wanted to be queen more than she wanted to protect Yu Ran. But I can see it both ways--and it makes me wonder how much important character interaction was cut in those fourteen episodes, because you know they wouldn't cut any of the battles and duels and deaths. There are so many gaps that mess up motivations.

Thank you thank you. I will be braced.

what happened? (I want to be prepared. My ships, my ships they are strong, if one sinks I have to be ready for it, was)

I think they showed from her very first scenes that Aunt Gong had ambitions. There were plenty of hints that she wanted to go back to her homeland, and the king promised he'd send her with a force. We saw her political machinations for the king, some of which were quite cold-blooded. The little story Minke told about her trying on the crown was a huge hint. She tried to drive Yu Ran away so she wouldn't have to killer her, because she suspected that Yu Ran would be exactly as foretold. This kind of complex character is what made the show intriguing; the one theme is that power corrupts. (great example, the young emperor)

I hope someday they release this story the way it was shot, and meant to be told. They yanked it abruptly earlier in summer for obscure political reasons, and slashed almost a quarter of it, at least twenty eps. And you know what got slashed would be character development, especially with the women, and all the blood-and-guts stuff preserved. So of course the story lurches along, with abrupt shifts in emotional development and some threads totally missing. :-(

You're not. It was pretty to look at but the characters kept taking the Stupid Pill constantly in order to keep the melodrama going.

I totally feel the same about those witches. Though I don't feel that it's always the women being evil so much as the focus in this drama is on the women's interactions, and the weapons they use.

This reminds me so much of a comedy of manners. We don't have badass women wielding sword and flying all over the place. Instead, they are using the actual weapons left to women in this society, gossip innuendo, false faces, tears, the emotional torque of guilt and gratitude. Men got to wield steel and brangle in court (and we see that) but the men are complements to the women in this drama, not the other way around.

So we're seeing women use what is permitted to them, whether their motivations are greed, fear, survival, revenge . . . or justice.

You're not. It was pretty to look at, but everyone seemed to turn stupid in order to keep the melodrama going.

Oh, I think you're right. Still, prostitute or concubine, she sounded like a match for Mo'er. Ha ha.

Also, she's going in where another woman already has a hard hold on him, and has been scheming, from what the Countess kept saying when she tried to push Ming Lan on Slimy Mr. Six. Good luck facing someone exactly like you, Mo'er.

I MUCH prefer historical dramas. The modern ones in boring Western clothes, with godawful haircuts on the guys . . . just, no. BUT! If I'm going to invest in many eps, I want a happy ending. I wish I could find a list of historical dramas with happy endings. I would be over the moon.