Not sure how you're defining Mary Sue..... if you're trying to say she's physically weak then yes she's not playing…
mary sue probably because everybody loves her, yes it has to do with her family, and I know why she has multiple suitors but that is part of being sue-ish.
some people like fresh ideas even with new faces with average acting and so so production, some people like big budget projects with cliche plot, some people like both and some people dislike both and find other stuff to entertain themselves.
zhao liying got criticised for playing zhou fei too lol. her baby face + popularity with audience helped soften the blow a little, but that drama have so many other issues on top of that. at the end of the day, it shouldn't be normal, and cnetizens are outright tired of it.
Ahhh.... We are into the last few eps. Base on some trailers that I saw at bilibili, douyin, etc this is gonna…
she was always a special guest role, a mentor. she's embodiment of what a lot of young women look up to. I like her a lot, and do wish she had more scenes, but I feel if she played bigger role, she'd be like ye jinyan, ultimate deus ex machina.
I mean she is openly sleeping with the second prince, she could get pregnant and saddle him with a bastard grandson.…
I'm guessing because his goal is prosperity of his family, so long term vs short term. it's not like he can't deal with them later? (this is all drama original I think so I'm guessing here)
It's really weird why Story of Minglan rating is high. I know the visuals are better than most productions but…
Wang Kai is in no way as popular as Zhao Liying, his fans internationally are mostly from NiF (politics), Serenade of Peaceful Joy is politics with side serving of harem drama. tRoP's plot is mostly about politics, Rebel Princess is probably most similar to tRoP, with lot more romance, and female lead focused. T&E is fantasy + politics.
Oh yeah, the director is absolutely abysmal at pacing. It shows in both Minglan and Serenade of Peaceful Joy, he's only half decent in When a Snail Falls in Love and it's still slower than other Daylight directors. T&E's director improved with Longest Day of Chang'an but still too long. tRoP, well the director is better suited to modern dramas IMO, and should have cut their losses far sooner with the script.
It's really weird why Story of Minglan rating is high. I know the visuals are better than most productions but…
It's the cast + focus. zhao liying have a lot of fans from her previous work, and minglan is more slice of life with romance (the subgenre the source novel is from is more comparative to palace scheming dramas like war & beauty/yanxi/ruyi/empress in the palace), while the other you listed are fantasy or politics with barely any romance in sight.
Is this drama similar to Minglan in the sense that ML and FL will be faithful to each other until the very end…
it's a romance novel and the novel is 1v1 so no polygamy. FL have several suitors though, but she only cared about one (second male lead) and that ended fairly quickly.
i was grossed out too and looked it up. Wang family was prominent at the time and did have many emperesses but…
Eastern Jin, about 150 years after end of three kingdoms. male lead is apparently partially based on Liu Yu 刘裕 who formed Liu Song kingdom/dynasty. Royal family's surname ma is probably reference to sima.
In general, novels that's set in the period where noble clans/elite family are big is from 魏晋南北朝 (220 till 589, so latter half of three kingdoms till just before Sui dynasty), height of their power was Eastern Jin (317 to 420). The period is also well known for pretty boys, indulgence in frivolous things, frequent use of drugs and so many weird and bizzare stories? (I'm super not familiar with the period though lol, since it's so chaotic) Nirvana in Fire's Langya + Xie family also reference the Wang (who's from Langya) and Xie famly here, and their emperor's last name is Xiao, which references Southern Liang (502 to 557). Someone looked up all the empress from the Wang family, looks like they are mostly from the Southern dynasties.
Wow! Top notch cast and production! Idk why we Asians (correct me if I am wrong) get so hung up about age and…
while i don't care about her age as much as others. it's because she didn't have to pick this novel. she could have gotten someone to write an original script that fit her more, or pick a novel that would be more suitable for adapting, but she didn't.
I don't know if I should admire or be grossed out at the Wang's family's ability to install 12 previous empresses.…
i was grossed out too and looked it up. Wang family was prominent at the time and did have many emperesses but they were of different kingdoms! (it was a real messy time, emperors and kingdoms comes and goes but elite families stayed, a lot of novels use the time period as background due to that) although I guess that's not the case here, especially with them cross marrying (the emperor is a wu's mum's brother, the empress is dad's sister).
Rebel Princess had some rough scenes I was surprised with rape almost twice in same scene lots of slap scenes…
IF this was really cut due to airing on tv, its' because this is cctv (national tv) and that one is a webdrama. I kind of hate the frequent use of sexual assault in that drama tbh, it's really unnecessary and some are drama original.
If anyone is wondering why face slapping, etc 'violent' scenes were cut, according to someone at douban, it is…
that's speculation on douban's end, people always speculate but that might not necessarily be true. cctv is technically stricter than other provincial channels but i really don't think slapping cut as violence, but I also wouldn't put it pass companies over self-censoring. I think it's more likely that the drama was 45 ep at some point and they cut it to make it under 40 and that's what they decide to cut. i think the editing for this drama is messy tbh. As for dvd version, very unlikely unless they got 45 ep pass first and cctv did the editing to make it 38?
Look at version JonJees sent me about AC Prince and Suo SuoThey get married have a kid then she divorces cause…
I ship aunt with him!!!! but i think it's a missed chance thing for them. (if you watch joy of life, my emperor and ye qing mei!!!!!!) they feel like soulmate that went separate ways too. so many ways to bad ends lol.
as for the novel, if you can read chinese, it's on wechat read under the drama's chinese title. I'm not sure if it's translated into english? It should be? the author 亦舒 is fairly well known. (not sure how they romanise her name in english)
When I read she was looking Mr Right ML, I confess I half hoped she would reunite with Chang Chen who sizzled…
i saw talks that Chang Chen went with Love & destiny instead of this? I thought the filming times didn't clash, but they did apparently. L&D July till Dec 2018, this one Feb till Dec 2018 (wow that's a long time, no wonder it was 80 ep before). L&D's script was written with CC in mind though, and I think they spent a year+ getting him to agree. ZZY was wowed by ZYW's acting in late 2017? if they haven't met before.
re: novel, that's cos the second prince isn't really relevant at the moment lol.
the novel is from like 15 years ago and the tropes used are fairly standard these days (i don't think they were…
the first 8 ep have fair amount of original stuff in it, probably because they have to lay out the relationship and flesh out the supporting cast. the bit about CP didn't happen yeah, i think Wan Ru was just picked as his wife but I'm not super sure.
I think this is the drama where AvenueX once mentioned..... before the whole princess/lowly maid.... climbing…
the novel is from like 15 years ago and the tropes used are fairly standard these days (i don't think they were that original back then but it's not as common as now for sure). the novel is largely well known for its relative realism in romance web novels + protag isn't some naive nice girl.
it's because she wanted a home, that's her dream and he offered that to her. she was also in much more precarious…
they are long time rivals and all of that (idk about if accident was actually ye's doing, could go either way, again, dumb plot). that doesn't really mean that any of ye, fan or suosuo knew he was going to be there. fan jingang was surprised and realised too late who he was and tried to get suosuo to run.
in this drama, she will end up with ye jin yan. the AC prince will become her true love, but she will not end…
suo suo got mad because she truly think it's love and it stings that someone she consider a friend is assuming she likes ye for the money. it's not about money to her. she says she likes old men because a) her taste in men does lean that way b) it's to hurt him. she literally called him a kid.
someone summarised that conversation, it was really funny because they were purposely stinging each other when this was meant to be a proposal.
some people like fresh ideas even with new faces with average acting and so so production, some people like big budget projects with cliche plot, some people like both and some people dislike both and find other stuff to entertain themselves.
zhao liying got criticised for playing zhou fei too lol. her baby face + popularity with audience helped soften the blow a little, but that drama have so many other issues on top of that. at the end of the day, it shouldn't be normal, and cnetizens are outright tired of it.
Oh yeah, the director is absolutely abysmal at pacing. It shows in both Minglan and Serenade of Peaceful Joy, he's only half decent in When a Snail Falls in Love and it's still slower than other Daylight directors. T&E's director improved with Longest Day of Chang'an but still too long. tRoP, well the director is better suited to modern dramas IMO, and should have cut their losses far sooner with the script.
In general, novels that's set in the period where noble clans/elite family are big is from 魏晋南北朝 (220 till 589, so latter half of three kingdoms till just before Sui dynasty), height of their power was Eastern Jin (317 to 420). The period is also well known for pretty boys, indulgence in frivolous things, frequent use of drugs and so many weird and bizzare stories? (I'm super not familiar with the period though lol, since it's so chaotic) Nirvana in Fire's Langya + Xie family also reference the Wang (who's from Langya) and Xie famly here, and their emperor's last name is Xiao, which references Southern Liang (502 to 557). Someone looked up all the empress from the Wang family, looks like they are mostly from the Southern dynasties.
as for the novel, if you can read chinese, it's on wechat read under the drama's chinese title. I'm not sure if it's translated into english? It should be? the author 亦舒 is fairly well known. (not sure how they romanise her name in english)
re: novel, that's cos the second prince isn't really relevant at the moment lol.
someone summarised that conversation, it was really funny because they were purposely stinging each other when this was meant to be a proposal.