And really bad French. And it's so obvious there is voice doubles for both of them. Sloppy job.
So let me get this straight — you made a public comment, someone disagreed politely with context, and now I’m getting accused of being part of some covert team just for pointing out the overreaction? You shifted from criticizing dubbing to straight-up paranoia, and now you're aiming it at me for... replying?
That’s not discussion — that’s deflection. You couldn’t argue the point, so now it’s about me, my motives, and imaginary computer labs. Classic move.
The irony? You keep warning about propaganda and manipulation while turning a simple comment thread into some Cold War thriller. At this point, it’s less about dubbing and more about your need to feel like the sole enlightened voice in a crowd of “keyboard workers.”
You said it’s not worth your time. I agree. But hey — if you do come back, maybe bring arguments, not accusations.
And really bad French. And it's so obvious there is voice doubles for both of them. Sloppy job.
Sure, saying “yes, it’s bad French and sloppy dubbing” is fair — and that’s exactly what joec88 acknowledged, just with added context. Nobody belittled you. Nobody tried to "cover trash." They just pointed out that dubbing issues are common in international productions. That’s not deflection — it’s basic perspective.
About the “account created a few hours ago” part — I mean, I don’t have a definitive response, but it’s not that deep. It could easily be someone who opened the page, scrolled the comments, saw yours, and decided to reply. I remember how I made my account — saw a comment, had a thought, signed up, done. Totally normal behavior. But you reacted like the CCP tracked you through kisskh and sent an operative to undermine your post. That jump was... honestly kind of hilarious.
And on the “for a Chinese audience” comment — that’s not shady or nationalistic. It’s just acknowledging production intent. Not every show is made with a global audience in mind, even if it ends up having one. Doesn’t mean others aren’t welcome to watch, enjoy, or critique it.
No one’s trying to silence you — just adding a little nuance. That’s what conversations are for, right?
And really bad French. And it's so obvious there is voice doubles for both of them. Sloppy job.
You do realise your comment is literally one scroll down, right? It's not some hidden artifact only a secret agent could uncover. New users can see it like anyone else. Let’s not overcomplicate basic web navigation.
Also, jumping on joec88 like they kicked your dog just for pointing out a pretty normal industry problem? That’s a bit much. Saying, “hey, this kind of dubbing issue happens globally” isn’t propaganda — it’s called context. But somehow you twisted it into a full-on conspiracy about state narratives and Cold War tactics.
Not everything is a hidden agenda. Sometimes it’s just... someone commenting on dubbing quality. You say the world is a village — fair enough. But in a village, not everyone who disagrees with you is some infiltrator sent to undermine your viewpoint.
And yeah, this is the Sunshine of My Life page — but comparing it to Iron Man 3 wasn’t off-topic, it was called making a point. If you can’t handle examples, maybe online discussions aren’t for you.
Anyway, maybe next time someone responds to your comment, try not to treat it like a secret government agent has tracked you down through the drama section of kisskh. Just a thought.
It's better than what's going on in the UK right now.
Sure, democracy is better than dictatorship in principle, and I wouldn't argue against that. But a flawed democracy can also feel like a curse, especially when justice and fairness seem skewed. I don’t think you fully understand the context I’m referring to when I mention the UK. Look up the "grooming issue in the UK," and you'll see what I mean.
We have situations where people who committed heinous crimes against women and children are walking free with a six-month prison sentence, while others are getting seven years for posting memes. It feels like democracy has its priorities completely upside down.
I was born and raised in the UK, and I live here now with my wife and daughter. My wife is Chinese, which is how I got into watching all these Asian dramas. I’ve traveled to China multiple times, and yes, dictatorship is undeniably bad. But at least they seem to prioritize protecting their women and children.
I know this comment might get nuked, but whatever . This is my perspective.
1. Tags like "love triangle" can sometimes be subjective and often depend on users’ votes and perspectives. On platforms like MDL, viewers suggest tags based on their interpretations, and admins confirm them as long as they seem ok. But hey, if you’re the type to live and die by MDL tags, maybe it makes sense why you’re so insistent. For the rest of us, we tend to look beyond tags and focus on the actual content of the drama!
2. Honestly, I don’t care what’s going on between A, B, C, D, E, F, G, or however many characters, as long as they’re not important to driving the story forward (relevance is the key here). The reason I brought it back to your examples was to point out that the third person’s interest isn’t crucial in this storyline.
To put it simply, there are romance dramas where the story revolves entirely around 3-4 characters and their interconnected relationships, which are the driving factors of the plot. A good example is What Comes After Love. In a drama like that, all the examples you brought up make perfect sense.
If someone said there’s no love triangle in What Comes After Love, I’d call that person a liar, because the entire plot hinges on those relationships. Now you see where I’m coming from, don’t you?
The issue I have here is that you called someone a liar because they said there’s no love triangle involving the MC in this drama. If you feel there’s a love triangle, that’s totally fine—it’s your perspective. I, on the other hand, don’t see a love triangle here. I just see side characters who are interested in the MC, but their interest doesn’t affect the main relationship at all. I could remove the ex-gf and the boss characters completely, and nothing significant about the plot or the MC’s relationship would change—aside from the number of episodes being shorter. From my perspective, that’s not a love triangle.
This is one of those dramas where viewers can have different perspectives. Some might see a love triangle, others might not. That’s fine! But it’s not cool to call people liars just because their perspective is different from yours.
Now, regarding your other comment where you said, “Don’t listen to MincefireStorm. There are at least two love triangles.” I don’t have an issue with that. You’re simply disagreeing with someone else’s perspective, and that’s fair. But calling someone a LIAR? Come on!
Again, if you want to respond to this with the same blah blah statements, it only makes it seem like you’re doubling down on calling someone a liar. That’s my only issue here—not your perspective.
So, I’m done wasting my time with someone who thinks their perspective is the only one that matters, and everyone else is wrong or can be called names. No more talks from me. Enjoy your dramas—or your reign as the MDL tag king. Peace out!
I’m not trying to pick a fight here. I just want to convey that the love triangle situation is all about perspective. But @VincenzoCassano decided to call someone a liar because he's certain this drama has a love triangle.
I just want to point out that it’s not cool to call someone a liar just because they have a different perspective on how they watch the drama.
I could call @VincenzoCassano a liar for saying there’s a love triangle when I don’t see one. All I see are two side characters showing interest in the MC.
Well, I’m just using the example @Vincenzo Cassano explained.
In Hidden Love, there is a classmate character showing interest in the FL. So, based on Example 1 from our @Vincenzo Cassano, that would count as a love triangle.
And in Amidst a Snowstorm of Love, yeah, it’s the teammate character who likes the FL. So again, according to Example 1, that would be considered a love triangle as well.
I agree that context and circumstances matter, but I have to respectfully disagree with the idea that "A likes B, B likes A, and C likes A" automatically makes it a love triangle. It can be considered one in some cases, especially if the drama focuses heavily on the romance and the dynamic between these three characters is central to the story.
However, if we apply that first example to any romance genre drama, then almost every single one would technically have a love triangle. That’s why I brought up Vincenzo. Taec-yeon’s character does show some interest in the female lead, and by your logic, that would make it a love triangle. But can we really call it that? Similarly, other dramas, like Hidden Love and Amidst a Snowstorm of Love (which I just finished—highly recommend them!), don’t have dynamics I’d personally classify as love triangles, but if i apply your logic, even those dramas have love triangle (which most of the viewers who've watched it would disagree with).
In the drama we’re discussing, the original answer was about whether there’s a love triangle for the main characters, and I agree with the answer that there isn’t. Here’s why:
The ML doesn’t even understand love until he meets the FL. Based on his character and backstory, his past relationship with the old girlfriend feels more like a deep friendship than anything romantic.
When it comes to the FL, there’s another guy (her boss or whatever) who’s interested in her. But as viewers, we know she has no feelings for him beyond friendship. As you said, it’s all about the context and circumstances, and in this case, there’s no real romantic conflict.
The story doesn’t really revolve around these four characters. The love interests were more like side characters, and the main focus was on the ML and FL’s life journey. (I’m ignoring other couples here since the original answer specifically referred to the MC)
These outside romantic interests don’t threaten the ML and FL’s relationship at all, and they only appear in about a quarter of the drama. If anything, their presence strengthens the bond between the MC.
Thanks for explaining that so thoroughly! I really appreciate it.
So, based on your first example—where A and B have mutual feelings, and C has feelings for A—it sounds like this would count as a love triangle, even if C’s feelings don’t really affect A and B’s relationship.
That got me thinking, and I have a couple of questions:
1. What if 100 other people also like A? What would you call that?
2. What if C secretly likes B instead but never shows it or says anything? As viewers, we know about it. Would that still count as a love triangle?
On a different note, I couldn’t help but notice that you seem to be a fan of Vincenzo. It’s such an awesome drama! Would you say it has a love triangle too, even though romance isn’t the main focus?
Why is the rating going down?. I understand it has something to do with some sensitive topic but i haven't watched this yet. so not sure whats going on. Can someone explain ?!
That’s not discussion — that’s deflection. You couldn’t argue the point, so now it’s about me, my motives, and imaginary computer labs. Classic move.
The irony? You keep warning about propaganda and manipulation while turning a simple comment thread into some Cold War thriller. At this point, it’s less about dubbing and more about your need to feel like the sole enlightened voice in a crowd of “keyboard workers.”
You said it’s not worth your time. I agree. But hey — if you do come back, maybe bring arguments, not accusations.
Peace out!!.
About the “account created a few hours ago” part — I mean, I don’t have a definitive response, but it’s not that deep. It could easily be someone who opened the page, scrolled the comments, saw yours, and decided to reply. I remember how I made my account — saw a comment, had a thought, signed up, done. Totally normal behavior.
But you reacted like the CCP tracked you through kisskh and sent an operative to undermine your post. That jump was... honestly kind of hilarious.
And on the “for a Chinese audience” comment — that’s not shady or nationalistic. It’s just acknowledging production intent. Not every show is made with a global audience in mind, even if it ends up having one. Doesn’t mean others aren’t welcome to watch, enjoy, or critique it.
No one’s trying to silence you — just adding a little nuance. That’s what conversations are for, right?
Also, jumping on joec88 like they kicked your dog just for pointing out a pretty normal industry problem? That’s a bit much. Saying, “hey, this kind of dubbing issue happens globally” isn’t propaganda — it’s called context. But somehow you twisted it into a full-on conspiracy about state narratives and Cold War tactics.
Not everything is a hidden agenda. Sometimes it’s just... someone commenting on dubbing quality. You say the world is a village — fair enough. But in a village, not everyone who disagrees with you is some infiltrator sent to undermine your viewpoint.
And yeah, this is the Sunshine of My Life page — but comparing it to Iron Man 3 wasn’t off-topic, it was called making a point. If you can’t handle examples, maybe online discussions aren’t for you.
Anyway, maybe next time someone responds to your comment, try not to treat it like a secret government agent has tracked you down through the drama section of kisskh. Just a thought.
We have situations where people who committed heinous crimes against women and children are walking free with a six-month prison sentence, while others are getting seven years for posting memes. It feels like democracy has its priorities completely upside down.
I was born and raised in the UK, and I live here now with my wife and daughter. My wife is Chinese, which is how I got into watching all these Asian dramas. I’ve traveled to China multiple times, and yes, dictatorship is undeniably bad. But at least they seem to prioritize protecting their women and children.
I know this comment might get nuked, but whatever . This is my perspective.
2. Honestly, I don’t care what’s going on between A, B, C, D, E, F, G, or however many characters, as long as they’re not important to driving the story forward (relevance is the key here). The reason I brought it back to your examples was to point out that the third person’s interest isn’t crucial in this storyline.
To put it simply, there are romance dramas where the story revolves entirely around 3-4 characters and their interconnected relationships, which are the driving factors of the plot. A good example is What Comes After Love. In a drama like that, all the examples you brought up make perfect sense.
If someone said there’s no love triangle in What Comes After Love, I’d call that person a liar, because the entire plot hinges on those relationships. Now you see where I’m coming from, don’t you?
The issue I have here is that you called someone a liar because they said there’s no love triangle involving the MC in this drama. If you feel there’s a love triangle, that’s totally fine—it’s your perspective. I, on the other hand, don’t see a love triangle here. I just see side characters who are interested in the MC, but their interest doesn’t affect the main relationship at all. I could remove the ex-gf and the boss characters completely, and nothing significant about the plot or the MC’s relationship would change—aside from the number of episodes being shorter. From my perspective, that’s not a love triangle.
This is one of those dramas where viewers can have different perspectives. Some might see a love triangle, others might not. That’s fine! But it’s not cool to call people liars just because their perspective is different from yours.
Now, regarding your other comment where you said, “Don’t listen to MincefireStorm. There are at least two love triangles.” I don’t have an issue with that. You’re simply disagreeing with someone else’s perspective, and that’s fair. But calling someone a LIAR? Come on!
Again, if you want to respond to this with the same blah blah statements, it only makes it seem like you’re doubling down on calling someone a liar. That’s my only issue here—not your perspective.
So, I’m done wasting my time with someone who thinks their perspective is the only one that matters, and everyone else is wrong or can be called names. No more talks from me. Enjoy your dramas—or your reign as the MDL tag king. Peace out!
I just want to point out that it’s not cool to call someone a liar just because they have a different perspective on how they watch the drama.
I could call @VincenzoCassano a liar for saying there’s a love triangle when I don’t see one. All I see are two side characters showing interest in the MC.
In Hidden Love, there is a classmate character showing interest in the FL. So, based on Example 1 from our @Vincenzo Cassano, that would count as a love triangle.
And in Amidst a Snowstorm of Love, yeah, it’s the teammate character who likes the FL. So again, according to Example 1, that would be considered a love triangle as well.
However, if we apply that first example to any romance genre drama, then almost every single one would technically have a love triangle. That’s why I brought up Vincenzo. Taec-yeon’s character does show some interest in the female lead, and by your logic, that would make it a love triangle. But can we really call it that? Similarly, other dramas, like Hidden Love and Amidst a Snowstorm of Love (which I just finished—highly recommend them!), don’t have dynamics I’d personally classify as love triangles, but if i apply your logic, even those dramas have love triangle (which most of the viewers who've watched it would disagree with).
In the drama we’re discussing, the original answer was about whether there’s a love triangle for the main characters, and I agree with the answer that there isn’t. Here’s why:
The ML doesn’t even understand love until he meets the FL. Based on his character and backstory, his past relationship with the old girlfriend feels more like a deep friendship than anything romantic.
When it comes to the FL, there’s another guy (her boss or whatever) who’s interested in her. But as viewers, we know she has no feelings for him beyond friendship. As you said, it’s all about the context and circumstances, and in this case, there’s no real romantic conflict.
The story doesn’t really revolve around these four characters. The love interests were more like side characters, and the main focus was on the ML and FL’s life journey. (I’m ignoring other couples here since the original answer specifically referred to the MC)
These outside romantic interests don’t threaten the ML and FL’s relationship at all, and they only appear in about a quarter of the drama. If anything, their presence strengthens the bond between the MC.
So, can we really call this a love triangle?
So, based on your first example—where A and B have mutual feelings, and C has feelings for A—it sounds like this would count as a love triangle, even if C’s feelings don’t really affect A and B’s relationship.
That got me thinking, and I have a couple of questions:
1. What if 100 other people also like A? What would you call that?
2. What if C secretly likes B instead but never shows it or says anything? As viewers, we know about it. Would that still count as a love triangle?
On a different note, I couldn’t help but notice that you seem to be a fan of Vincenzo. It’s such an awesome drama! Would you say it has a love triangle too, even though romance isn’t the main focus?
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts! Cheers!!