Sleepy_Owl

Saw it and in the end they show three faces belonging to Goong Chul, Myung Woo and Jae Hoon. I think that is the last scene of the episode. What I think is that writers want to show that the killer is actually one of them. Question is who?

I am actually gonna lose my mind if they go the "Misty" kdrama way and make Goong Chul the killer. That'll spoil everything. My bet is still on Jae Hoon, but you never know, it is now the most obvious option so the writers might change it up.

Just saw the raw episode, now I am sure Jae Hoon is the murderer, 100% sure. Don't really know why they wanna fool us like this. When Jae Hoon goes to his room and opens the secret chamber, her takes out a bag AND THAT BAG CONTAINS THE TROPHY! Thats the murder weapon and also Jung Hae's shoes.

In the final scene also we see the murderer cleaning up the scene and keeping everything in the same bag. It means that guy is the murderer. Which is Jae Hoon.

Yes Chingu, same here. Although I was sure that the accident will happen in 14th episode. Might happen in middle of the episode but it happening in the end is a great possibility.

I also have many doubts and things to discuss, but I am also gonna wait for the subs.

But we do see Goong Chul begging to Jae Hoon to forgive for everything and save Yoo Bin! Does that mean Jae Hoon really is the father? Or is it just that desperate situation in which Goong Chul just asks Jae Hoon to save his son as a friend. I hope you got what I mean. There are some situations in which you just ask anyone to save your son desperately.

Jae Hoon is a doctor (Urologist) but still Goong Chul may not have been in his right mind and begged him to save him as a doctor. Maybe. Because the way they showed, they definitely want us to think he is doing so because Jae Hoon is the father. But you never know.

Yeah, I also think that Jae Hoon will become more aggressive with his methods because he feels that if he continues to do so, Jung Hae will eventually come back to him. In the 13th episode's preview, we hear Hae Sook telling him to "end things and start afresh" to which he replies "if it had to end, it would have ended already, this is just the beginning". So we have to expect him to do some crazy stuff, which as you had pointed out would be ordering to hurt Yoo Bin. With him saving Yoo Bin, he must be believing that Jung Hae would be inclined towards him more and blame Goong Chul for it. And believe me, I am sure it's not gonna happen but IF Jung Hae does end up going to Jae Hoon, he'll start neglecting her and cheat on her very quickly. Right now he is like this just because he feels like he had to have Jung Hae (which she pointed out in the hotel and could mean they didn't have a physical relationship). But what's gonna happen when he ends up having her? It would be like when a kid whines a lot for buying that one toy he liked and when you buy it, the kid gets tired of playing with that toy and moves on to next one. Same is the case with Jae Hoon and he'd do the same thing with Jung Hae. He played around with his wife (who he could have married because his family forced him to), same he is doing with the female doctor. The saying you said describing Jae Hoon perfectly describes him.

As for Hae Sook, we'll have to look at her in two different angles. Firstly she might be having feelings for Goong Chul but didn't return with an ulterior motive. She knew she had some months to live and wanted to spend them with her friends (who could actually be her only friends). She was manipulated and brought into this plan by Jae Hoon who like the devil proposed a very interesting plan in which she would get Goong Chul and him getting Jung Hae. She having feelings for Goong Chul decided to accept the plan as you said she was lonely and may have also wanted to be loved in the final days of life now. She is like a pawn for Jae Hoon in his plan and he is perfectly using her. She is a very important pawn for Jae Hoon in his plan. We saw how she caused a wreck in the party thrown by Mo Ran and buried more doubts in Goong Chul's mind.

But we have to also keep in mind the second angle and that is her hate for Jung Hae. Hae Sook is not simply driven by her feelings for Goong Chul. What actually is driving her in this plan of Jae Hoon is her hate and wanting to take revenge on Jung Hae and this revenge-driven motive of her made her overlook a lot of things. She didn't really think what she was doing would actually end up hurting Goong Chul. Jae Hoon and Hae Sook both looked at their plan in a very simple-minded manner, which is that if they make them split-up, Jung Hae and Goong Chul will move back to us and didn't really think that they'll suffer emotionally and may take really long time in moving on (if they ever split up). As for Jae Hoon, he does not really care about other's feelings but Hae Sook must have actually been hurt when she realized that Goong Chul is also suffering from what she did. She only must have wanted to hurt Jung Hae. When she spoke to Kyung Ja and also in the coming episode she'll come to realize that she was also being used and this was not really what she wanted. Things might also completely change when she'll come to know that Jung Hae didn't really spread those photos (I am almost sure that she didn't do but is not telling about to protect the person who did it and is also regretful of taking those photos).

As for Jung Hae and Goong Chul not really having a proper talk might also have several aspects. One of which I am very much sure of is that Jung Hae is trying to protect someone by not really clearing out doubts regarding spreading those photos. Someone maybe whose involvement might also hurt Goong Chul. The reason she hid her relationship with Jae Hoon must have been because if she said in the start, she must have thought that Goong Chul would actually feel guilty of marrying someone his friend was supposed and would have second thoughts and may have not married her. Also after marrying if she would tell him about it, things would become awkward between Goong Chul and Jae Hoon and also after Man Sik, Goong Chul was closest to Jae Hoon, so she really must have not wanted that friendship to break. But she must have told him about it or at least must have cleared things when Goong Chul was extremely doubtful about it and asked her about it (Goong Chul feels like they are having /had an affair together). But we are forgetting that a lot of things are going on in Jung Hae's mind too. Jae Hoon had just tried to force himself on her, the total party thing, and also she realizing that Jae Hoon could have been the murderer because she saw her shoes in his shoe rack and we see her remembering everything which could mean that she could be having PTSD regarding those events. But yes even after all those things, if she had cleared things, it would have been better for both of them. She is a psychiatrist but is human at the same time, also there is a strong belief that doctors never treat their family because they don't see things objectively. The same might be the case with Jung Hae. But it also gave me chills and broke my heart when Jung Hae said that the only woman who Goong Chul has been loving is not her but Hae Sook, about which I really think she is wrong because I really feel like Goong Chul loves her. But the fact that Jung Hae really didn't give in when Jae Hoon made his moves on her while her guard was down a little, she was drunk a bit and sad does show how much she actually loves Goong Chul and is loyal to her marriage. Also, Goong Chul must have stopped when he saw his wife feeling uneasy with his meetings with Hae Sook, but I think he was doing all that for Hae Sook because he feels sorry to her for something in the past and wants to make up for it by any method. I too like you really hope that Jung Hae and Goong Chul will be able to pass this storm together and reconcile while I really want Yoo Bin to be safe.

As for the marriage scene, we hear Goong Chul's relatives speaking badly about Jung Hae not having a family while saying that she is an orphan and see Goong Chul's father scolding them. She must have felt hurt about it and also must have remembered her mother and really must have missed her while also wanting to have had a father like Goong Chul's father who defended her while she was just his daughter-in-law and not his real daughter. We see her crying when they announce that Goong Chul's mom has said that she'll be the bride's mother in the marriage. These were the reasons for her being sad but she must have also felt uneasy when she saw Jae Hoon in the marriage.

The selection of actors/actresses for the younger versions of adult actors is really impressive. Jae Hyun's one really looks like and I had to check whether the cast someone else or the same actor was used. Goong Chul's one also does look like him a lot.

Edit: rewatched the conversation between Jung Hae and Goong Chul in episode 12. When Goong Chul accuses her of hiding many things and telling lies, she does approve that she kept secrets and lied, but "that wasn't always her sake". So I think it is actually safe to imagine that Jung Hae is trying to protect Goong Chul from some secrets which will be devastating (and may not really be her secret, she could be hiding other secrets like knowing the person who spread those photos etc.). What I didn't like about this conversation was Goong Chul openly accused her of destroying many lives by her acts without even asking her about it. Like some episodes ago, he in the police station was shouting that even if he saw Jung Hae killing someone, he would actually doubt his eyes. So when you claim to have that much faith in your wife, you got to try to hear her side story before coming to conclusions based on what others told you (in this case it was Hae Sook who told him Jung Hae spread those photos and Goong Chul didn't take a long time in believing it).

Okay Chingu, so you think he actually looked at the side mirror right? I cannot help but think that Jae Hyun is somewhat related to the accident. Thinking about your observation he might have actually hit him, given another observation, he could have ordered it to happen.

Also have been seeing a lot of comments where people actually still want Jung Hae to end up Jae Hyun shocks me. This guy is literally a thorn in her life. I believe that if Jung Hae had married him back then, she would be having a miserable life. That guy himself told Jung Hae that he never promised to make her happy, when she told him that she was never happy with him. I can bet that he would have easily cheated on her and this is exactly what she must have realized too. I am also curious what made Jung Hae to take the extreme step of committing suicide while she was in the US.

I think when you said that Jae Hyun could have ordered that accident to happen, you were right. That's a good point and I really didn't see it that way before. Now that I gave it a thought, I believe that even if Jae Hyun didn't hit Yoo Bin, he could actually be behind it. Reason for this is because lies in the reason why he asked Kang San to seduce Jung Hae. He wanted to break Jung Hae's marriage, if his plan would succeed. Then he would ask Kang San to suddenly disappear or blackmail her and when Jung Hae would be at the lowest point of her life, he would arrive like the "knight with shining armor' and then she would go to him after realizing he still loves her. Same might be the case with Yoo Bin's accident. When Goong Chul and Jung Hae on verge of getting divorced, Yoo Bin gets hit while Jae Hyun is driving on that road (co-incidence?), Jae Hyun sees Yoo Bin and saves him. Jung Hae who is actually at the lowest point of her life, sees her son's life being saved by Jae Hyun and she now realizes his love for, goes to him and finds solace with him after her divorce with Goong Chul. This is what exactly Jae Hyun may be thinking would happen and be the man behind Yoo Bin's death. I have said this before, but this guy has got some really good connections with gangsters. As you said could have easily put people behind Yoo Bin and get all the routes he moves in. So Jae Hyun being behind Yoo Bin's accident is a possibility.

I don't even think that Jae Hyun loves Jung Hae. The reason I believe that he does not actually love her and is just being obsessive of her is that he is not thinking about Jung Hae while doing all this. If he actually loved her, he would have let her go and could have also moved on. His priority would be Jung Hae's happiness, not her being with him no matter how. His methods are wrong, his intention to break her marriage of 15 years and break her family apart is wrong. As Jung Hae said in the hotel room "the reason he is like that is because he did not have her (which i highly believe is that she didn't sleep with him, because soon after that she starts unbuttoning her shirt). If Jung Hae had married him, there is a high chance that he would cheat on her because that is how he has been portrayed (one of the many reasons Jung Hae left him). The woman (female doctor) he sleeps with, thought they were going out while for him they were just sex-friends. Maybe he really is like this because Jung Hae didn't sleep with or never even had any kind of physical relationship with him which made him like that. There have been cases that people start developing obsessive behavior for people who have actually rejected them for certain things (not necessarily rejecting proposal) and follow them around having their own delusions. Jae Hyun has been shown throughout the drama to be the kind of person who does not care about others.

As for Hae Sook at least we see her to be sad in the next preview while Jung Hae slaps Jae Hyun and Goong Chul being sad, so it seems like at least she has now realized what she was doing was wrong and it hurt Goong Chul, because she must have not wanted to do that. I think that's the reason why she tells Jae Hyun that he start things afresh. I personally think that she still loves Goong Chul, but didn't come back to break his marriage. We know that she is gonna die soon, so she must have come back to spend her final moments with her friends. But Jae Hyun used her hate for Jung Hae and made her do the "deal with the devil". But now that she sees Goong Chul breaking, I think she'll realize that what she was doing until now was also hurting Goong Chul and not just Jung Hae. Kyung Ja's talk with her must have also impacted her.

I am expecting that screenwriters would address all the mysteries. Also this drama would immediately go from my favorites list to hate list, if we actually see Jung Hae going back to Jae Hyun (surely that's not gonna happen), but i have seen many people on different forums to actually want it to happen. I'll also lose it if they suddenly make Yoo Bin Jae Hyun's son.

And yes, we'll not get to see Jung Hae replying anything to Goong Chul asking about Yoo Bin being his son. Firstly, I think she'll be highly disappointed that Goong Chul asked that question. But she has to understand that the reason for all this is that she never cleared his doubts and left him to assume things while being disappointed with him to have doubted those things. So yes, we should be ready for another lack of communication between Jung Hae and Goong Chul. Hopefully Yoo Bin's accident make them have the talk and also Yoo Bin will be saved.

Chingu, Spent a lot of time watching the end of the preview of the 13th episode, and now it looks like Jae Hyun did not hit Yoo Bin. At first, I was thinking that Jae Hyun was looking at the rearview mirror to see at the back but now that I watched it again at 1080p (was first watching at 480p), it feels like he looking at the opposite side of the road rather than the side mirror. But we also see his indicator on, which could also mean that his double indicator is, so it means that he stopped his in the middle of the road. This has got me confused me, maybe you could check and also provide your opinion on it. But now I am highly doubtful that he hit Yoo Bin.

The scene where Jung Hae was in labor in and Jae Hyun carries her could be just a way of confusing the viewers as they added that scene just after Goong Chul asking whether Yoo Bin was his child or not. That could actually be quite normal scene because we know that Goong Chul is a salaryman, also men usually get more responsible and started working harder when they come to know they are gonna become a father and we know what kind of a man Goong Chul is. So when he must have been in his office working, Jung Hae could have gone in labor while being out for something and Jae Hyun carried her to hospital. Now I saw many people over-reacting over the fact that Goong Chul "abandoned" Jung Hae when she was pregnant and I literally lost my mind over those comments.

It is quite a normal behavior of stalkers and obsessive people to keep photos of the people they are stalking (I am saying this purely over the knowledge I gained by watching kdramas, don't know how much of this is true), so yeah Goong Chul could have found some printed photos of Jung Hae. Also about the photo where we see young Goong Chul giving young Jung Hae a piggyback, I think it is normal in Korea to give piggybacks to your colleague and friends (once again saying this purely based on my knowledge gained from kdramas). And we do know that Goong Chul loved Jung Hae from start and we can't really say that he started dating Hae Sook as soon as he met her, so there must have been some interactions between Jung Hae and Goong Chul when he was still single. She could have hurt her leg or been drunk and Goong Chul offered to give her piggyback.

But you know what, young Goong Chul giving piggyback to Jung Hae is not that important. Why he gave that piggyback is also not important. What we get to know from this is that Jae Hyun has been a stalker from the start and had been stalking Jung Hae from start and I am sure he was aware of her feelings for Goong Chul too.

Also I would actually be very much surprised is Jae Hyun is not the killer of Kang San. I am pretty much convinced that he is directly related to Prof's death, but we got to wait for it. But Jae Hyun's overall story regarding going to Kang San's house sounded to be a bluff to me. Also he will be released mainly because police will be unable to find the murder weapon, that's it. We know that his brother is a competent lawyer and among the best ones in Korea. But as for Yoo Bin's accident, I think that Jae Hyun hits him by accident and not intentionally. Would not be surprised if he did that intentionally, this crazy guy can do anything.

I have said this before too. If Yoo Bin were to die (I really hope that its not gonna happen), his death could become the actual reason for Jung Hae and Goong Chul split up (after blaming each other for his death) and we might end up seeing Jung Hae killing herself (since she wouldn't have anything to live for) and also might see Goong Chul at the edge of a roof (just like he saw in his dreams). But I think that would the worst possible ending. But yeah if Kdrama Gods are merciful enough to save that child, we might see Goong Chul and Jung Hae having the important talk and clear out the misunderstandings and reconcile.

As for Kang San's lover, I guess the police brought up that they knew that he approached Jung Hae intentionally . It must have been because he could have been suspicious that she killed him. It was already explained in the start that Kang San just stripped and didn't sleep with her. This happens in the hotel scene where she goes to meet and says that she knows that he just stripped her and never slept with her. When it was mentioned that Kang San had a male lover, I pretty much guessed the reason he didn't do it with Jung Hae was that he was gay, but was not sure about it. I think the reason he became furious when she said that he might be gay, because of he must have faced the stigma he must have faced before for being gay. So to me the male lover is not suspicious.

But as for Mo Ran, Jae Hyun's ex-wife, she covered Jae Hyun quickly regarding those red shoes (which could have been Jung Hae's on the night of murder which she left while running away) which Jung Hae found in his house. Could be that those shoes really were Mo Ran's, but Jae Hyun reaction while seeing those shoes in Jung Hae's hand say otherwise. Mo Ran looks to be suspicious but she might not really be, we got to see what happens in the next 5 episodes, a lot can happen in that.

Edit: Spent a lot of time watching the end of the preview of the 13th episode, and now it looks like Jae Hyun did not hit Yoo Bin. At first, I was thinking that Jae Hyun was looking at the rearview mirror to see at the back but now that I watched it again at 1080p (was first watching at 480p), it feels like he looking at the opposite side of the road rather than the side mirror. But we also see his indicator on, which could also mean that his double indicator is, so it means that he stopped his in the middle of the road. This has got me confused me, maybe you could check and also provide your opinion on it. But now I am highly doubtful that he hit Yoo Bin.

Somewhere I read a person's theory who said that in the hospital while there will be a sudden need of donor for blood, Goong Chul's blood group will not match Yoo Bin's while Jae Hyun's will do (which would indicate that Jae Hyun could be the father). But if this happens I am gonna lose my mind. Firstly they suddenly include the "not his child" thing and it will be devastating for Goong Chul, and secondly because they could prove it in many ways without the need to hurt poor Yoo Bin :(

Sure Jingu, let's discuss about the new episodes after they come :)

Dear Jingu, she might not be as close as Goong Chul to Yoo Bin, but that does not mean she loves Yoo Bin lesser than Goong Chul. She is just not so good at expressing herself.

Believe me if Yoo Bin dies, I don't see Goong Chul and Jung Hae reconciling. Instead that may become one of the main reasons for their separation. And if that happens Jung Hae's gonna commit suicide (because she won't have a reason to live, the person she loved left him, her only son dies). Goong Chul may do same out of guilt and regret. That's why I don't think they'll kill Yoo Bin off.

But if Yoo Bin does get to live (may go into coma till the end and wake up in the end), it might actually help Jung Hae and Goong Chul to have a talk and reconcile. So hopefully we'll be seeing Yoo Bin recover and wake up. Hopefully.

I watched the accident scene again and again. And i am pretty much convinced that he is the one who hit Yoo Bin (I might actually be wrong, maybe they want us to think like that) but still i think the same. That's so because if you carefully see that scene, you will notice Jae Hyun's car parked in the middle of the road (the scene in which we see Jae Hyun in the car) and he looks behind using the rear view mirror and he sort of looks worried. So it means basically the accident happened just behind him, which makes it seem like Jae Hyun has hit him. He also approaches Yoo Bin from the from the other side of zebre crossing (you'll understand when you'll see that scene again). Also the scene in which Yoo Bin gets hit, the road is almost empty which also must be the reason for him to be over speeding.

Now there is a high chance that he'll try to escape as that is usually what happens in most of the hit and run cases. Chances are he'll be calling ambulance and running away. But I don't really think he'll be helping Yoo Bin because there'll be high chance of Yoo Bin dying. Also given the recent cases and him confessing to police about hiring Kang San, Yoo Bin death would not be seen by police as a simple hit and run accident, they might actually look at it as an attempted murder. So I think he'll run away and try to clean up everything regarding that case. Once again, I might be proven wrong.

But if they gonna prove Yoo Bin not being Goong Chul's son by showing that his blood group does not match Yoo Bin's when he desperately needs a donor and matching Jae Hyun's blood group and proving him being the the actual father. If this happens, I'll lose it and might end up dropping it. Because if Yoo Bin is actually Jae Hyun's son (which i am 100% sure that he is not, but still), there will be hundreds of much simpler methods to prove that, they'll not need to mess up everyone's life by that accident.

All dialogues in the preview as far as (some of them could be rough translation) I understood include:



GC: How far did you in the relationship/until where did your relationship go?

Jae Hoon: You stole my woman from me

GC: Let me just ask you one thing, is Yoo bin really my son?

After Jung Hae slaps Jae Hoon

Jung Hae : Is this what you really wanted, is this what really you two want?

GC to Jae Hoon : Jae Hoon, I always thought about you as my friend (or something similar)

Hae Sook: You can end things and start afresh

Jae Hoon: If this was supposed to end it would already ended. This is just the beginning.

end of preview with Yoo Bin's accident


As for Jae Hyun's ex-wife she does seem to be suspicious but not suspicious enough to be the murderer (I have seen many to be predicting that). She didn't tell the police about the secret room, because I think she didn't want to get involved in the matter. Also Jae Hyun mentioning that he got her call seems to be lie, I can't really trust his testimony, it seems to be made up one. He literally decided to call his lawyer instead of answering when asked whether he killed Kang San or not.

I think what Goong Chul sees and is shocked might be seeing Jung Hae's photos. We know that Jae Hyun has been stalking her for a long time and so maybe he has got some printed photos of her too. OR maybe Goong Chul sees the laptop that contains photos of Jung Hae. Or maybe he is just shocked that another secret chamber actually exists in that room.

Well you see Goong Chul now even has doubts about Yoo Bin being his son or not. Which I actually think is his son because we it was made clear by Jung Hae in hotel room scene that their relationship was not intimate. So I am literally gonna lose my mind if Yoo Bon ends being Jae Hyun's son, because that in my opinion is not logical at all.

I do think that it was Jae Hyun who ran over Yoo Bin, because the way he sees in his rear mirror back, looks like it is him. Also it is quite natural for him to come out of his car see the condition of the person he hit (who'll happen to be our poor Yoo Bin). Reason of him checking are, firstly as I said in all hit and run this usually happens, also Jae Hyun is a doctor too no matter what kind of person he is. The question which remains is, will he save Yoo Bin and take him to hospital or leave him to die. The kind of person Jae Hyun is, he can even leave Yoo Bin to die and i'll not be surprised.

Also I think Goong Chul leaves Jung Hae in search of answers. We know they love each other, but are not communicating at all. Jung Hae for some unknown reasons does not want to tell anything to Goong Chul. But they being away from each other for sometime might be good them to clear their heads and think rationally. But i doubt that's gonna happen because Yoo Bin is gonna be in a very serious accident and might end up losing his life too.

Yeah Goong Chul had feelings for Jung Hae. You see in the start and also at beach you see Goong Chul looking at Jung Hae and smiling, I think since Hae Sook kissed him (could be his first too) he might have thought to take responsibility for it (as he did after sleeping her and asked her to marry him, Hae Sook did say that she knew that Goong Chul didn't even want to sleep with her, but she was the one who insisted it). So I think it was always Jung Hae for him. If you have watched 11th episode, you see Hae Sook kissed him and then after saying "Sorry for not defending you back then" he leaves. So maybe Goong Chul feels apologetic towards Hae Sook and nothing else. But yeah let's have a proper discussion after you are done with both episodes and don't forget to watch the preview of 13th episode.

I think the same. I think Jung Hae is trying to hide a secret which she knows will hurt Goong Chul if he comes to know. Also I don't think Man Sik is the murderer of Prof, there is more to it.

Well you see for this I will be writing a bit long post (since i tend to go into details).

As far as i know, Yoo Bin is surely Goong Chul's son. That's because we the conversation Jung Hae with Jae Hoon in the hotel, when she said you are like this because you didn't have me and then she started unbuttoning her shirt while saying "Its not late, you can have me now". It literally seemed like Jae Hoon didn't get to sleep with her. So I don't really think their relationship was physical and in 12th episode start we do see Jung Hae telling Jae Hyun that she never loved him not even for a single moment. It is understandable if she went out with him either because of family or maybe in order to forget Goong Chul. But at the same time I cannot blame Goong Chul for doubting it. He literally had a shotgun marriage.

But let's see if Jung Hae got pregnant with Jae Hoon. She was away for 1 month no contact with Jae Hoon. It does not matter whether Goong Chul slept with Jung Hae during that 1 month or not, her baby bump would start showing at least one month after marriage or max 2 months and Yoo Bin would be born on time but would be called pre-mature baby in 7 months (I highly doubt anyone would mistake a 8-9 months old bump with 6-7 month one, I dunno maybe you would correct me), also this is when given Jung Hae slept with Jae Hoon just a day before leaving him which is highly impossible. If things were tough for them she would have already started to distance herself from him, which means the last time they slept could have been a few weeks before Jung Hae's disappearance, which would mean she'd have baby bump while getting married.

Now as per this analysis and the dialogues which Jung Hae shared with Jae Hyun in the hotel, I am pretty much sure that Yoo Bin is Goong Chul's son. Also even if Jung Hae and Jae Hyun slept together, Jae Hyun doesn't seem to be the type of person to have unprotected sex or want kids. But my argument that they didn't have a physical relationship remains firm.

Also Yoo Bin, his interaction with that small girl was amazing. He is so kind and cares for people around him, he said that so that the girl would not be hurt. He is basically an angel. If you watched the 13th episode preview carefully, it seems like the one who hits Yoo Bin is Jae Hyun. Do you think that he'll save him or will he leave him to die? Because by the looks of it I don't think Yoo Bin would live given the amount of blood he lost as shown in the preview. What do you think?

Well in the preview for 12th episode there was a scene which was not shown in 12th episode so probably we'll get to see it in 13th episode if you have seen it. It was when we see Jae Hyun chocking Mo Ran angrily so it seems that Goong Chul discovers the laptop and maybe finds other stuff too.

Also I have done a very detailed analysis of on the Prof's murder as a reply to a comment 2-3 comments below this one and compared it with this murder. If you check that you'll find Kang San's murder very much similar to the Prof's murder (I actually suggest you to do read it).

I think in the earlier episode (when Jung Hae was being questioned) we see Jae Hyun asking his brother to introduce him his law firm's best lawyer. So Jae Hyun must have already felt that there were chances that police will get to him and he had a lot of time to make up a believable story. When you compare him in interrogation with Myung Woo, you can actually see the difference. Myung Woo was actually scared, but Jae Hyun was quite calm.

The main reason for him not coming out closet is simply because he actually came with the intent of murder. If you see Kang San's murder, it does not look like a hot-blooded one. Kang San was killed, moved the body to bathroom, made it seem like he was murdered in the bathroom, cleaned the whole scene that not even a single fingerprint was found and Goong Chul was called to the scene. It definitely could not be Kang San who called him, because he was already by then. I hope you get where I am going with this comment.

I still place my bet on Jae Hoon being the murderer. The murder scene was meticulously cleaned and the only one who comes to mind to have done that is Jae Hoon, we know how meticulous he is. Also Goong Chul and Jae Hoon knew about Kang San blackmailing Jung Hae not anyone else. I am literally gonna lose my mind if they suddenly make her murderer, she does not have a motive and she could take revenge from Jung Hae in many other simple ways. We know as a matter of fact that Mo Ran knows Jae Hoon has feeling for Jung Hae thanks to him uttering her name while climaxing and must be knowing what kind of person Jae Hoon is to have guessed that those shoes were Jung Hae's which Jae Hoon must have picked from somewhere (could have been house or anywhere else, that's what she must have thought). The reason she said bought those shoes must be because she must have wanted to avoid the drama if it came to light it was Jae Hoon who picked them up.

Also Jae Hoon did not reply when he was asked if he is the murderer. He replied he needs to make a call. Not to forget that the police didn't find the laptop in which he had Jung Hae's (I dunno how many years worth) photos.

yeah I also feel like if Jung Hae and Goong Chul do not really have a serious talk and resolve their doubts and misunderstandings, they might be on their way to separation. If that happens i'll really feel sorry for their son. But maybe because of their son, they might end up starting over instead of divorcing each other.

Watched the latest episode and both Goong Chul and Jung Hae were kissed forcefully (somewhat forcefully in Goong Chul's case). And what I realized was that Goong Chul also does not have romantic feelings for Hae Sook (as Jung Hae suspects him to). It is more like he feels sorry to Hae Sook. He did say sorry to her for not defending her in the past and looks like that things torments him. We know that he is a righteous sort of person and maybe all help he did to Hae Sook until now was his way to redemption maybe. Also we see Jung Hae being sorry to Jae Hyun, but thats it. She really does not feel anything for him. And when she'll come to know that Jae Hyun was behind everything, she might end up hating him.

If Jae Hyun really thought that by his this type of plan he will win over Jung Hae, he is delusional af. What I actually liked about Jung Hae was that she didn't really fell for Kang San's seduction which led him to take extreme measures (drug her). Also she didn't really fall for Jae Hyun's seduction in the hotel. But yeah she seriously needs to have a talk with Goong Chul instead of assuming things. Looks like Goong Chul was really ignoring Hae Sook because he now knew what she really wanted.

In the preview we see Kyung Ja pulling Hae Sook's hair and her wig falling down. Her disease seems to be pretty critical. Maybe Kyung Ja will have a talk with Hae Sook and convince her to forget about the past and live her remaining days in peace instead of hating and being hell bent on taking revenge. Maybe if Jung Hae was really not the one who spread those photos, she'll stop doing what she is doing right now.

But if Hae Sook and Jae Hyun really think they'll get Jung Hae and Goong Chul once they split up, they are completely wrong and in delusion. We sort of know that both Goong Chul and Jung Hae love each other, have been together for 15 years. Won't be easy to forget about each other even if they split up.

I think if Goong Chul will come to know about the past between Jung Hae and Jae Hyun, he'll initially be disappointed. But maybe after sometime and giving some thoughts and coming to know about Jae Hyun being behind everything, he'll try to understand Jung Hae. Right now what I understood from this episode is that he thinks that something is going between Jung Hae and Jae Hyun and sort of has also developed an inferiority complex that maybe Jung Hae likes Jae Hyun because both of them are doctors and their status is the same. We see him saying that having a doctor husband sounds more cool. He is fired from his job where he worked for a long time, so maybe he is not really in his right mind. A lot of things are happening and he looks to be having a tough time figuring out everything.

I wanna know your opinions on certain things.

1. In the start, Goong Chul said that when he first met Jung Hae, his life started to fall apart. Does it really indicate that we won't be seeing a happy end for Goong Chul and Jung Hae and they'll be parting ways? Or if not what do you think he meant while saying that. Goong Chul is certainly narrating the story.

2. At the end of first episode when Man Sik was dying, Goong Chul says he was dying while keeping a "secret more horrifying than death itself". What do you really think that secret is?

3. Why did Jae Hoon start all this revenge thing itself now? I mean he is doing all this after 15 years. Hae Sook didn't look like to have arrived for revenge, she most likely came to spend final years of her life with her friends, as she has got a terminal disease. But as for Jae Hoon, what made him go for revenge now? Did something trigger him or was someone (I believe this person to be Man Sik, everything started after his death) was stopping him all these years, and now that the person is gone he is doing what he wanted to?

Chances are that the male lover is actually also an accomplice of Kang San and suspects that Jung Hae might be the killer (just a wild guess). I claim that he is the accomplice because there was always someone who was doing the stalking and sending photos to Jae Hoon including the photos of Kang San and Jung Hae in golf course, so I believe he was the stalker and working with Kang San.

Both the male lover and Jae Hoon's ex wife are like wild cards which will somewhat influence the story in some way. Many believe that Jae Hoon's wife has been brought to induce comedy in the drama, but we cannot ignore the fact that she was the one through who Jae Hoon being the "Mysterious Hands" behind that laptop, So I believe she is gonna play some major role up ahead in the coming episodes.

If you see Jae Hoon, in terms of motive he lacks it in both murders (we are the only ones who know he has got obsession over Jung Hae and also is the "mysterious hands" behind that laptop and the guy who hired Kang San).

Also somewhere Jae Hoon does not fit in the murder case of Prof. I mean the murder surely took place after the harassment of Hae Sook. So the murder should have taken place in between her return to the practice and Goong Chul rushing there. Something big is missing in between which they have hidden intentionally which will be shown up ahead.

We also cannot rule out the case where Jung Hae spread those photos, was somewhat the reason behind the case being buried and she being the actual baddie in the past. But that in my opinion would be poor writing. Firstly because it sort of does not really match with her personality being shown throughout. She might be cold to others but has been a warm person for her family. Secondly, it would make things very easy. They have been portraying her an evil woman from Hae Sook's pov and somewhat from Jae Hoon's pov too and giving out extremely obvious hints supporting that (which is to drive audience in that direction).

The only thing I know right now is that things are going Jae Hoon's way up until now. Also the final beach scene feels like the last scene we'll see the friends being like that together, things are gonna go downhill at fast pace now.

Also as for Kang San, this guy does seem to have some problem at a personal level with the friends. Blackmailed Myung Woo (his photos are still in Jae Hoon's laptop), blackmailed Jung Hae and Goong Chul like that. We literally hear him threaten Jung Hae that he'll make her son live like he had to live. Also the fact that Man Sik had to suddenly pull out all his insurance policies, we cannot rule out the fact that he could also have been blackmailed.