Are you an idiot or what's wrong with you? I really like the BL genre, but it was good that they didn't put romance…
My support is based on an awareness that relationships are complex and can't be judged by a single standard
Deuk Pal/Yi Heon's lifetime of experience doesn't create a blatant, exploitative power imbalance. As I've pointed out previously, emotional intelligence and life experience aren't static, and the influence of Deuk Pal/Yi Heon's past life experiences is mitigated by his current teenage body and environment
Every relationship involves a level of power dynamic. People are different, they have different experiences, skills, personalities, resources, etc. These factors influence the balance of power in every relationship, and it's not always possible to predict how the dynamic will play out. The censored drama didn't even give us a chance to predict or see the outcome
I'm acknowledging the complexity of the situation, while you're insulting my character and oversimplifying the issue. Maybe you're the ones who need a reality check
Not you defending predatory relationships, the least weird BL fan
It's difficult to prove the existence or effect of emotional intelligence and life strategies on relationships. Emotional intelligence is subjective and can't be objectively measured. Assuming Deuk Pal/Yi Heon's past life experiences make him more emotionally intelligent or better equipped than average isn't a valid argument. They might hinder him in certain situations
Deuk Pal's soul is inhabiting the body of a teenager and experiencing the hormonal, psychological changes associated with adolescence. The raging hormones and developmental milestones of adolescence would erode the maturity Deuk Pal/Yi Heon previously attained, leveling the playing field in current relationships
Exploitation in relationships involves the use of power or authority to take advantage of someone, and it’s not clear that Deuk Pal/Yi Heon has the power or authority over other teenagers in the present. His past life experiences don’t automatically translate into exploitation. It would depend on the circumstances and dynamics of his relationships
Societal norms aren't the ultimate authority on what is right or wrong. Deuk Pal/Yi Heon and Se Kyung might've been able to navigate a healthy, positive relationship
Are you an idiot or what's wrong with you? I really like the BL genre, but it was good that they didn't put romance…
It's not a traditional "47-year-old man and 18-year-old teenager" relationship. A soul isn't bound by traditional age markers
The 47-year-old's soul has more past life experience and wisdom, but it's in the body of an 18-year-old, with all the feelings, vulnerabilities, and inexperiences that come with that age. It's not in a 47-year-old's body, with all the authority and clout that comes with that
The 47-year-old’s soul, in the context of an 18-year-old body, would make for a unique dynamic. I understand that the dynamic is uncomfortable for you, I just don't believe the gay romance should've been censored. The drama could've used the romance to examine people's preconceptions and spark a meaningful dialogue about what is or isn't a healthy relationship
Are you an idiot or what's wrong with you? I really like the BL genre, but it was good that they didn't put romance…
"wtf it would be illegal"
This is a 47-year-old's soul inhabiting an 18-year-old's body. It wouldn't be illegal (or immoral) for him to date another 18-year-old. There's no legal basis for a distinction between someone's physical age and their perceived "soul age." The law doesn't exist to regulate a scenario that exists only in fiction, and those who insist on doing so are the "idiots"
Courts of law wouldn't take seriously a case in which a high schooler like Yi Heon is claimed to be a "47-year-old inhabiting an 18-year-old's body." Your claim would be seen as delusional and you would be referred for psychiatric evaluation
Not you defending predatory relationships, the least weird BL fan
Souls actually not having an age is one reason the relationship can't be "predatory." A soul is an intangible, immeasurable essence beyond the confines of the body. Assigning an age (47) to the soul inside Yi Heon's body is a fruitless endeavor
The term "predatory" implies a power imbalance that's not present in this case, as Deuk Pal, despite his past life experiences, is Yi Heon and inhabiting the body of a teenager
Deuk Pal, now Yi Heon, doesn't have the social standing and physical maturity that would give him power over Se Kyung, another teenager. He can't exploit or manipulate the other
I wouldn't have been weirded out by a 47-year-old's soul in a teenager's body being in a relationship with another teenager. Physically, Deuk Pal is Yi Heon, a teenager. Deuk Pal is living in the body of a high schooler that's subject to the norms and expectations of that age group. It'd be natural for him to seek out relationships with people his body's age. When someone is reincarnated in a younger body, are they forever bound by the limitations of their past self? Should they be deprived of the joys and hardships of a relationship?
It's easy to pass judgment, but the soul can't divorce itself from its current physical form. The body is young, and to forbid the current self the opportunity to experience love and growth is to deprive them of a basic human experience
Whether the romance in the novel/comic was between Deuk Pal in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, or Yi Heon in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, the potential for a nuanced exploration of consent and relationships was there. The drama could've delved into the challenges of a 47-year-old's soul inhabiting a teenage body, and the effect it has on a romantic relationship. They shouldn't have discarded the gay romance as "creepy" without exploring the dynamic
If the producers of the drama truly censored the gay romance because of its "creepiness," they should've chosen to adapt a different story that wouldn't have presented them or their conservative audience with difficult questions
Adapting a story and censoring its perceived "creepiness" is artistic cowardice. Out of respect for the source material's complexity, I wouldn't have adapted it at all
I wouldn't have been weirded out by a 47-year-old's soul in a teenager's body being in a relationship with another teenager. Physically, Deuk Pal is Yi Heon, a teenager. Deuk Pal is living in the body of a high schooler that's subject to the norms and expectations of that age group. It'd be natural for him to seek out relationships with people his body's age. When someone is reincarnated in a younger body, are they forever bound by the limitations of their past self? Should they be deprived of the joys and hardships of a relationship?
It's easy to pass judgment, but the soul can't divorce itself from its current physical form. The body is young, and to forbid the current self the opportunity to experience love and growth is to deprive them of a basic human experience
Whether the romance in the novel/comic was between Deuk Pal in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, or Yi Heon in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, the potential for a nuanced exploration of consent and relationships was there. The drama could've delved into the challenges of a 47-year-old's soul inhabiting a teenage body, and the effect it has on a romantic relationship. They shouldn't have discarded the gay romance as "creepy" without exploring the dynamic
If the producers of the drama truly censored the gay romance because of its "creepiness," they should've chosen to adapt a different story that wouldn't have presented them or their conservative audience with difficult questions
Adapting a story and censoring its perceived "creepiness" is artistic cowardice. Out of respect for the source material's complexity, I wouldn't have adapted it at all
i can see why you got that interpretation but they changed the fact that SYH was gay witch in-turn changed the…
There would've been no story or conflict if Yi Heon’s sexuality weren't a source of bullying. He wouldn't have unalived himself and the gangster wouldn’t have gotten involved in his life
The story focused on other elements, but the gay characters and relationships within it were still important to some people. They shouldn't have taken them out
I didn't see any homophobia!! Just because thry cut the bl part doesn't make them homophobic.
I did see homophobic comments, "LGBTQ+ is like a virus," "gay people are mentally ill and sinful, not everyone is into mentally ill relationships," "I'm fine with censorship," "I hope more gay works will be censored and adapted into friendship dramas," etc
Being happy about the censorship that targets gay works is homophobic
is the korean author of the novel happy with censorship? are korean lgbt people ok with it?
Well said
These homophobic defenders of censorship can't possibly know the thoughts or feelings of the author or every other Korean person. They don't get to assume that all Korean people are okay with the censorship
is the korean author of the novel happy with censorship? are korean lgbt people ok with it?
The novel and webtoon featured gay characters and explored themes of identity and sexuality. This is important representation that could've been a starting point for more nuanced mainstream representation in the future
What's not life-changing for you, is life-changing for me
is the korean author of the novel happy with censorship? are korean lgbt people ok with it?
The existence of other gay content doesn't excuse the censorship of this drama
There might be other pressing issues facing the community, it doesn't mean that censorship isn't an issue. Addressing censorship is part of an effort to combat discrimination and promote visibility for gay people and relationships
is the korean author of the novel happy with censorship? are korean lgbt people ok with it?
Self-censorship is a problem
Censorship of a work of art robs the work of its original meaning and intent. It's harmful to the artistic community as a whole
Censorship reinforces harmful societal norms and attitudes. For example, this gay work of art was censored because it challenged traditional gender roles and relationships. Censorship of this work reinforces the homophobic belief that there's only one "right" way to love or be in a relationship, and that deviation from it is "wrong"
The author might've agreed to the censorship due to external pressures and fear of backlash. You don't know why they agreed. The censorship isn't a true reflection of the author's artistic vision
Why is it okay for a 47-year-old in a teen's body to be with a teen girl and not a teen boy?
Deuk Pal/Yi Heon's lifetime of experience doesn't create a blatant, exploitative power imbalance. As I've pointed out previously, emotional intelligence and life experience aren't static, and the influence of Deuk Pal/Yi Heon's past life experiences is mitigated by his current teenage body and environment
Every relationship involves a level of power dynamic. People are different, they have different experiences, skills, personalities, resources, etc. These factors influence the balance of power in every relationship, and it's not always possible to predict how the dynamic will play out. The censored drama didn't even give us a chance to predict or see the outcome
I'm acknowledging the complexity of the situation, while you're insulting my character and oversimplifying the issue. Maybe you're the ones who need a reality check
Deuk Pal's soul is inhabiting the body of a teenager and experiencing the hormonal, psychological changes associated with adolescence. The raging hormones and developmental milestones of adolescence would erode the maturity Deuk Pal/Yi Heon previously attained, leveling the playing field in current relationships
Exploitation in relationships involves the use of power or authority to take advantage of someone, and it’s not clear that Deuk Pal/Yi Heon has the power or authority over other teenagers in the present. His past life experiences don’t automatically translate into exploitation. It would depend on the circumstances and dynamics of his relationships
Societal norms aren't the ultimate authority on what is right or wrong. Deuk Pal/Yi Heon and Se Kyung might've been able to navigate a healthy, positive relationship
The 47-year-old's soul has more past life experience and wisdom, but it's in the body of an 18-year-old, with all the feelings, vulnerabilities, and inexperiences that come with that age. It's not in a 47-year-old's body, with all the authority and clout that comes with that
The 47-year-old’s soul, in the context of an 18-year-old body, would make for a unique dynamic. I understand that the dynamic is uncomfortable for you, I just don't believe the gay romance should've been censored. The drama could've used the romance to examine people's preconceptions and spark a meaningful dialogue about what is or isn't a healthy relationship
This is a 47-year-old's soul inhabiting an 18-year-old's body. It wouldn't be illegal (or immoral) for him to date another 18-year-old. There's no legal basis for a distinction between someone's physical age and their perceived "soul age." The law doesn't exist to regulate a scenario that exists only in fiction, and those who insist on doing so are the "idiots"
Courts of law wouldn't take seriously a case in which a high schooler like Yi Heon is claimed to be a "47-year-old inhabiting an 18-year-old's body." Your claim would be seen as delusional and you would be referred for psychiatric evaluation
The term "predatory" implies a power imbalance that's not present in this case, as Deuk Pal, despite his past life experiences, is Yi Heon and inhabiting the body of a teenager
Deuk Pal, now Yi Heon, doesn't have the social standing and physical maturity that would give him power over Se Kyung, another teenager. He can't exploit or manipulate the other
I wouldn't have been weirded out by a 47-year-old's soul in a teenager's body being in a relationship with another teenager. Physically, Deuk Pal is Yi Heon, a teenager. Deuk Pal is living in the body of a high schooler that's subject to the norms and expectations of that age group. It'd be natural for him to seek out relationships with people his body's age. When someone is reincarnated in a younger body, are they forever bound by the limitations of their past self? Should they be deprived of the joys and hardships of a relationship?
It's easy to pass judgment, but the soul can't divorce itself from its current physical form. The body is young, and to forbid the current self the opportunity to experience love and growth is to deprive them of a basic human experience
Whether the romance in the novel/comic was between Deuk Pal in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, or Yi Heon in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, the potential for a nuanced exploration of consent and relationships was there. The drama could've delved into the challenges of a 47-year-old's soul inhabiting a teenage body, and the effect it has on a romantic relationship. They shouldn't have discarded the gay romance as "creepy" without exploring the dynamic
If the producers of the drama truly censored the gay romance because of its "creepiness," they should've chosen to adapt a different story that wouldn't have presented them or their conservative audience with difficult questions
Adapting a story and censoring its perceived "creepiness" is artistic cowardice. Out of respect for the source material's complexity, I wouldn't have adapted it at all
It's easy to pass judgment, but the soul can't divorce itself from its current physical form. The body is young, and to forbid the current self the opportunity to experience love and growth is to deprive them of a basic human experience
Whether the romance in the novel/comic was between Deuk Pal in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, or Yi Heon in Yi Heon's body and Se Kyung, the potential for a nuanced exploration of consent and relationships was there. The drama could've delved into the challenges of a 47-year-old's soul inhabiting a teenage body, and the effect it has on a romantic relationship. They shouldn't have discarded the gay romance as "creepy" without exploring the dynamic
If the producers of the drama truly censored the gay romance because of its "creepiness," they should've chosen to adapt a different story that wouldn't have presented them or their conservative audience with difficult questions
Adapting a story and censoring its perceived "creepiness" is artistic cowardice. Out of respect for the source material's complexity, I wouldn't have adapted it at all
I've met homophobic gay people in gay relationships who ally themselves with homophobes or pride themselves on being "not like the other gays"
The story focused on other elements, but the gay characters and relationships within it were still important to some people. They shouldn't have taken them out
Being happy about the censorship that targets gay works is homophobic
These homophobic defenders of censorship can't possibly know the thoughts or feelings of the author or every other Korean person. They don't get to assume that all Korean people are okay with the censorship
What's not life-changing for you, is life-changing for me
There might be other pressing issues facing the community, it doesn't mean that censorship isn't an issue. Addressing censorship is part of an effort to combat discrimination and promote visibility for gay people and relationships
Censorship of a work of art robs the work of its original meaning and intent. It's harmful to the artistic community as a whole
Censorship reinforces harmful societal norms and attitudes. For example, this gay work of art was censored because it challenged traditional gender roles and relationships. Censorship of this work reinforces the homophobic belief that there's only one "right" way to love or be in a relationship, and that deviation from it is "wrong"
The author might've agreed to the censorship due to external pressures and fear of backlash. You don't know why they agreed. The censorship isn't a true reflection of the author's artistic vision
It's possible to address multiple issues. Censorship isn't an issue that should be accepted or ignored in the face of other issues