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Replying to Unknown Unknown Oct 18, 2021
Title Don't Say No
I disagree completely. I think it made absolute sense for Leo to respond this way and it is one of the things…
I definitely agree that Leo’s response to seeing Fiat with King felt very real and natural. I thought it was actually great that he opened up to Fiat about how that made him feel. He didn’t mince words because he was angry and that’s very human of him. I didn’t really mind that. The break up scene was actually well done.

As someone who has declared their disappointment in Leo, I’d say my problem is with him agreeing to kiss someone else, especially for a second time. He knows Fiat is possessive of him too after the whole Pob thing. Leo is not that emotionally obtuse.
Replying to Unknown Unknown Oct 18, 2021
Title Don't Say No Spoiler
I think a lot of people missed nuance in episode 11. A lot of people don’t seem to understand WHY Leo responded…
I like your analysis and agree. I actually quite enjoyed how the whole breakup happened and the aftermath.

I found it interesting that Fiat went to great lengths to hide his pain, which is not exactly healthy, and I think Leo would have been totally open to talking about it, explaining himself and possibly apologizing. Fiat is pretty much a known crybaby so the reason he didn’t accuse Leo of anything is likely due to his own guilt over his past when compared to Leo’s transgression. He’s so focused on bettering himself and was understandably vulnerable to criticism, which I feel is why he suggested they go back to being friends. Outside of this context, Leo explaining how seeing Fiat with King made him feel would have been a healthy and positive thing, even though he could have been a little less hurtful about it.

The only thing I really disliked about the episode was Leo’s decisions concerning Punn. Kissing her a second time will never make sense to me.
Replying to Hoqus Oct 18, 2021
Title Don't Say No Spoiler
Here are things I couldn't understand:- Leo agrees to Punn's condition, does Leo find Fiat weak/stupid, or rather…
If you save the numbers of people you don’t necessarily want to deal with, you can more easily avoid them instead of being blindsighted when they call you.
Replying to ciz18 Oct 16, 2021
Title Don't Say No
Leo seriously need to learn to fight for what he wants sometimes. It was so frustrating to me that he didnt even…
I don’t know, I thought it was very like him to just stay silent about it. He’s so used to do things for Fiat’s sake, it seems he hasn’t really adjusted to them now dating. Like it’s natural to fight for Fiat’s happiness, sure, but Leo still needs to learn to also start fighting for their actual relationship. Or better yet, just trust that Fiat can handle himself.

Anyway, Leo’s attitude actually made me forgive his previous bs but I do hope he listens to his bro and speaks up in the next episode.
Replying to krab Oct 16, 2021
Title Don't Say No
Other things I have to say:- First is SO gorgeous, especially in that suit. Wowie zowie.- First's crying scenes…
Yes yes, agreed on all counts. I felt for Fiat throughout and, though I do love Leo, he really deserved to get dumped after that hypocritical bs.
Replying to jpny01 Oct 16, 2021
Title Don't Say No
What's wrong with aggressiveness?But everything else, agreed It's not just the story elements but the incompetent…
Yes, let’s not forget Leo did that. I wonder if he ever did come clean to a Fiat about being involved in that whole fiasco.
On Don't Say No Oct 16, 2021
Title Don't Say No
Phew, it’s over. I get all the rage floating around but, personally, I’m relieved. The cursed episode is done and, while my expectations might have been extraordinarily low, it wasn’t that bad.

Sure, Leo is now technically a cheater and a hypocrite but he’s so cute it’s impossible not to forgive him. I actually loved the resurgence of self sacrificing Leo. Him respecting Fiat’s wishes when it comes to what their relationship should be is just darling. I wonder if we get to see him stand up for what he wants before the series is over.

As for Fiat, my sympathies were with him throughout. He’s taken that self improvement mentality a bit too far. People are allowed to feel hurt when people they care about do hurtful things. I wish we could see Fiat letting go of his guilt over his past behavior. Leo isn’t justified in kissing someone else just because Fiat used to sleep around before they were even together. Also, people getting hurt through no fault of your own is not on you. Nobody’s perfect. At least it looks like Fiat is getting past his shaken confidence and rather dashingly in that red suit. That was actually a lovely moment.

Finally, I adore the parents and Leon being so supportive. Actually the friends too. They’re all lovely. I’m looking forward to the rest.
Replying to ImHereForTheBL Oct 15, 2021
Title Don't Say No
I'm not asking for porn...really...but would a little tongue kill anyone? Everything is just so dry...so so dry...
In what BL have you ever seen kisses with tongue? (Let’s have some recommendations please! 😂) At least in this series the actors aren’t just pressing their mouths together with no lip movement whatsoever.
Replying to CrazyTaurusBitch Oct 12, 2021
Title Don't Say No
I think this series is about why Fiat is the way he is. Why he tried to get in between Type and Tharn. Why he…
I highly doubt Fiat will seek King’s company as he doesn’t seem to trust or like the guy. He even seemed scared of him. I bet Fiat will go drinking and King will take advantage of that. Hopefully nothing will actually happen.
On Don't Say No Oct 11, 2021
Title Don't Say No
I find it so interesting that viewers are hyping up Leon and Pob so much. It’s understandable because their development and scenes have been done exceedingly well but you do realize that a drama without drama would lose everyone’s interest fairly quickly. I feel like Leon and Pob work as the antidote to the heavy drama. They couldn’t carry the show on their own. If the couple do get their own show, people will once again be rooting for the secondary couple. That’s just the way it seems to work.

I do agree with some of the criticisms when it comes to Leo and Fiat. There’s been maybe a bit too much of Fiat crying and Leo trying to make it all better. That said, I do love Fiat’s vulnerability and I don’t think he is portrayed as weak necessarily, just finding himself.

He used to act out to test everyone’s affection for him but since he doesn’t want to be that guy anymore, it’s about finding other ways to communicate and cope. We’ve seen him lean on his friends and open up to his family and Leo. I think that’s nice. I’m hoping the preview of Fiat drunk at a club will work to solidify that kind of thing as his past. Relapses are normal and something to be learned from after all. Not to say that drowning one’s sorrows once in a blue moon is even necessarily such a bad thing.

As for Leo, his life certainly does seem to revolve around Fiat but I was impressed that he was listening to Fiat when he communicated that he didn’t need help with his mom. So I’d say he respects Fiat enough to let him handle himself but is quite high handed on his behalf if Fiat is not there to tell him off.

I also do think the character is well rounded enough to not just be “the devoted boyfriend”. He has his family and friends (or underlings?) and it even seems that the whole baseball thing is mostly Leo’s passion even if Fiat is captain.

Personally I think their chemistry is absolutely fine. I adore that they smile quite a lot in their nc scenes like they’re actually enjoying themselves and the sex is fun. The issue, I feel, is that their character dynamic is quite a bit more mature than what the show is comfortable with showing. It teases with dialogue and some manhandling but doesn’t really follow through because that would be a bit much. That’s not on the actors or the characters they portray.

Anyway, I feel people who do not want to deal with the drama dismiss a lot of the good in these characters. I kind of wished we could have skipped the drama myself when it comes to this series. However, if there was no drama, it would be a short story, not a series. People would not stick around for 12 episodes of only sweetness and light angst/shyness. That would get old too.
Replying to leofiating Oct 11, 2021
Title Don't Say No
im so heartbroken. why. you were so perfect, leo. why.
I know right? Like either the writing took a turn for the worse with this out of character behavior or Leo isn’t so perfect after all. Well, at least Ja is still as scrumptious as ever.
Replying to SeokJo Oct 11, 2021
Title Don't Say No
lmfao ep 10 really went from 100 to 0 in 10 seconds for me LMFAOOOO pLS WHAT THE FK EVEN WAS THE POINT OF THAT??…
Yeah, I fear they really messed up Leo’s character at the last minute. Either the behavior is way out of character (bad writing) or Leo has a serious dark side and finds hurting his lover acceptable if he can get away with it and gets what he wants. Like is he actually the hidden bad guy of the series? Everyone just thought he was the perfect boyfriend because of his indulgent antics and because Ja is so damn cute. 😂
Replying to J100 Oct 11, 2021
Title Don't Say No
With the comments I am so glad I drop it, very good,
So far I think this has actually been one of the better ones. The cast is so attractive and talented and the couples are cute and have chemistry. The acting is mostly good, staging and effects have been pretty good and the writing has been surprisingly good. It exceeded my expectations a couple of times. The attitude toward sex is refreshingly open minded and encourages communication. The relationships are supportive. It’s been a good time up to the end of episode 10. I dislike the latest development but I’m reserving my judgement until I’ve actually seen the finale.
Replying to Sunny Oct 11, 2021
Title Don't Say No
Everyone is shitting on this so hard and I think it's dumb. I'm just over here enjoying the show for what it is…
Hah, very relatable! I too enjoy the moments I get to look at Ja’s face. 😂

Anyway, I was personally disappointed by the last scene of episode 10. I knew the drama was coming but I’m unhappy with how it was done. A jealous female antagonist is a tired trope and Leo going along with her was out of left field in a bad way. It’s either out of character behavior for Leo (and therefore not great writing) or he’s not as amazing of a guy as he presents himself as.

Still, I wouldn’t be disappointed if I didn’t have high expectations and hopes for this series. I’ve loved it a lot up until that kiss scene, I hope the last two episodes will improve my opinion of it again. People will vent when they’re invested and engaged. It’s probably actually a good sign.
Replying to Streetwalker Sep 29, 2021
Title Don't Say No
Sadistically torturing his boyfriend? What series have you been watching? Fiat never did that. He slept around…
I’ve watched TT2. The point is that this was before they were together and before Fiat even knew Leo loved him as more than a friend. It’s hardly fair to judge anyone for something they have no knowledge of doing. Had Leo opened up about how all that was affecting him, I’m positive Fiat would have been like yippee he wants me and stopped fooling around with anyone else immediately. Trying to make someone jealous instead of communicating with them properly is stupid I’ll agree but I don’t think it was ever actually malicious in this case.

Anyhow, good to hear you weren’t fully serious with all that. We don’t all have to love all characters.
On Ja Phachara Suansri Sep 27, 2021
I love his face. He has just the most adorable expressions ever. His eyes when he smiles! ♥️♥️ His build is so nice as well and his voice. Decent acting skills too for someone fairly new. I may be a little (a lot) infatuated. I hope to see much more of him in the future.
Replying to solipsism5 Sep 27, 2021
Title Don't Say No
For most of this series I was intensely bored with the Fiat, Leo relationship, and Mame's weird attempt to redeem…
Sadistically torturing his boyfriend? What series have you been watching? Fiat never did that. He slept around before they were together because he thought Leo didn’t want him that way. Obviously he didn’t know that this behavior was hurting his then best friend.

The only thing Fiat has knowingly done wrong so far is pursue a man who is already taken and make passes at a drunk person. He was already scolded for those things by Leo and kind of got his comeuppance even.

Being promiscuous and cocky doesn’t make anyone evil. Fiat is maybe a little messed up but I love to see him grow as a character. And I’m speaking as someone who doesn’t even prefer Fiat to the other characters. The one I adore is Leo. :P