I cannot watch an entire series of Bo crying again. I can't do it. It'll drive me insane. How are we supposed to feel sorry for someone who literally put himself in the situation he's in now? He likes to play the victim but he's the type of person that just can't handle life. He wants everyone to fix things for him, instead of doing anything to fix things for himself and spends his whole life crying "poor me". His character drives me nuts (which kudos to Art for playing him so well). Pree isn't much better playing hot and cold with his jealousy but also wanting nothing to do with Bo. Just leave it alone and move on, since that's what you keep saying you want to happen. Other than that I'm excited for the new potential couple, their storyline is super intriguing already and let's hope Oat/Pop make it through this season to the end because I really love their dynamic. Also I hope Mo gets a happy ending with the Flyboy Prince (if he's a good guy), she deserves that at least.
For all those like me who were heartbroken and a bit bitter that KimCopter weren't going to be able to finish out the series as MingKit...they're getting their own series as a lead couple! Crossing my fingers it comes out good, but I can finally let the last of my reservations fall away and watch this with a completely open mind and heart lol may the new MingKit do the old MingKit justice.
EDIT: for those interested you can find the video of them announcing the project subbed on LazySubbers facebook page.
Looks like we'll be in for a lot of angst and drama. Where the series left off last time I really can't understand how people can still root for PreeBo with their toxic af relationship, but we'll see what happens. Since I've heard the novel doesn't have a happy ending, I'm mentally preparing myself just in case for PopOat.
Major drama with one of the actors, and there were complaints that some of the original cast weren't great actors.…
I didn't follow things too closely, but from my understanding there were a lot of issues. For one, God was the only one who didn't want to return. I don't know what exactly was said, but I heard it was because he wasn't comfortable with the BL role. This triggered a lot of drama, fans got upset, I think sponsors started pulling out which led to them having to halt the project. Then there was a falling out with the production team where one company got the rights to the copyright (i.e. the story) and the other had an exclusive contract with the actors for all three seasons, meaning the same actors weren't legally allowed to take part in Season 2 without this company being in the project.
People aren't sure how true this is, particularly because there were complaints about the acting (mainly about Pha and Yo's portrayal), and people think the current production team just wanted an excuse to get rid of the old cast entirely without getting blamed. This became even more likely when people found out that the author of 2Moons hadn't been happy with the original cast, especially Bas who played Wayo and pulled out of working on Season1, but now she is working closely with this new project. Basically it was all a huge mess, but it was most sad for SBFive (all the other boys except for God) who really did want to participate again but had the opportunity taken away from them. They were also treated pretty shitty because they weren't even told there was going to be a 2Moons2 or that they were going to be re-cast, they found out from fans. Personally, I get the complaints and them wanting more capable actors, but I think things weren't done correctly. I'm most upset about Kim and Copter not being able to play MingKit again lol. Hopefully they did end up with more seasoned actors at the end of all this mess, because if they went through all this and we still get rookie level acting I think people (myself included) will be pretty pissed because the original cast could have stayed XD
Daaaaaammmmnnnnnn!!!! The entire cast changed? WTF happened while I was off the net?
Major drama with one of the actors, and there were complaints that some of the original cast weren't great actors. So instead of trying to keep at least some of the cast who did want to participate again, they decided to start all over again. This is a reboot by the way, not a season 2.
I'm excited for New's new (lol) project. He's an excellent director and really has a feel for not only choosing the right actors, but portraying the story well.
Thank you for your good evaluation. Maybe it's because there are no big events in the story.
Thank you for all your hard work! I've watched every one of your films and loved all of them. I appreciate that you're bringing realistic and also positive storylines that portray how same-sex relationships are just as beautiful and complex as any other type of relationship. I know it's a hard topic to tackle in South Korea, but I hope you continue your excellent work! Fighting!
That was...pretty crap lol not even going to lie. Guide is the only saving grace to this entire series, so I hope he gets his happy ending in the next season, even if it's not with Tanai (who quite honestly is kind of a dumbass so...there's that). At this point I'm questioning if the writers even have the answers we're looking for, or if they're making this all up as they go along because that's what it feels like lol. Hopefully, we get a more firm handle on where this is supposed to be going next season, because I really felt like they dragged this on unnecessarily to lead us to nowhere.
I'm actually surprised they didn't do something with that, it would have been funny. Especially because, if I'm not mistaken, there was a special scene in last seasons Sotus where Gun shows up at Off (Bright)'s bar as a potential employee lol
Not going to lie, my heart is still broken that KimCopter aren't coming back. It was just salt added to the wound to see the new MingKit. They were quite literally probably the best thing about the last series and the only reason I finished it to the end lol but I decided I'm going into this with a blank slate, like I'd never seen the series before and we'll see what happens.
Okay. I just watched Ep. 7 again. In that scene, Korn was seriously flirting with Pete just before they started…
Exactly! That's exactly what I was saying earlier! This idea that Korn somehow ended up being the victim in all this is bizarre. He was a willing participant in what happened, he knew what was happening and he allowed it. Just because he regretted it and "is sorry" doesn't change that he willingly cheated and put his relationship at risk because he was feeling unsatisfied with his partner at the time. If he wasn't ready to be in an open relationship with Knock, he shouldn't have been so adamant to push him into one in TWM. He knew at some point he was going to have to reveal it to his parents. Also, he knew what Knock's personality was like from the beginning and he still wanted a relationship with him, how is he going to cry over the fact that Knock isn't being ideal, when Knock hasn't changed from since before they started dating. I feel like people are making excuses for him, when there really aren't any. And yes, you are absolutely right about the train wreck lol
I really like your comments and perspective, thanks!For me, I'm not too invested in what the writers do with this…
I don't know, I don't buy it (not your opinion, I appreciate your opinion lol but the whole situation). There's this ingrained idea that it's somehow worse if a woman cheats, over if a man cheats because, "hey, men cheat, it's in their nature" and that's a bunch of bs. Somehow it's a more forgivable crime if a man does it. Like I said, at the very least Yihwa thought she had feelings for Art, Korn almost threw away his entire relationship on a one-off because he was holding himself a pity party. If he wasn't ready to be in a gay relationship he shouldn't have been so adamant to push Knock into one in TWM. He knew he was going to have to reveal his relationship to his parents at some point, there is literally zero reason for him to feel sorry for himself at this point. Again, people are making excuses for him. He had no business drinking with Pete, and your partner being upset with you is not an excuse to find another willing party to be sympathetic to your plight and sleep with. I'm not saying Yihwa is any better, I'm saying the situations are both as bad as the other. It's not fair for Yihwa to be held to a different standard when they both were pretty crap. At the very least she was upfront about what she did which is more than I can say for Korn. Watching the series every week is torturous at this point. At the very least in typical novelas there's other storylines and character plots to take away from the angst, drama and mess. Everywhere you turn there are horrible character you don't want to root for or support in this drama lol it makes for very hard watching, at least for me. They messed with a good thing I think, I don't mind (in fact I prefer) when series are more realistic and aren't just a bunch of fluff but this isn't that haha.
The writers are not saying that cheating is okay. Quite the opposite, in fact. They have shown Knock's pain, after…
Um...that's exactly what they're saying though. They're showing that if you cheat, everything is solved with some crocodile tears and an I'm sorry. Of course Knock is going to be hurt, showing his pain is the least they could have done, but also showing his pain was inconsequential enough to disappear and everything be right as rain so they can get married is a disservice to his character and their whole love story. Basically the writers are saying cheaters should get a free pass. If you cheat, it's ok because you'll still get your happily ever after at the end of it. This is quite honestly one of the most underdeveloped, lazy plots I've ever seen. Yeah, it's dramatic (so much so you need to completely suspend disbelief to make it realistic) but personally for me drama doesn't automatically equate a good storyline, even with good acting.
I'm honestly curious, why are people ok with Knock forgiving Korn for what he did but not Cho forgiving Yihwa. Is it because she's a woman? Because there's diehard BL fans (who the writers are catering to at this point) that can't imagine the idea of Korn not getting a pardon for what he did regardless of how much he deserves it? If we're comparing, at the root of it, they're both guilty of the same crime. Is it because she said she had feelings for Art and broke things off with Cho? If that's the case wouldn't you say at the very least she thought she had feelings for the person she jumped into bed and cheated on her boyfriend with, what's Korn's excuse? I'm sorry but everything about this is crap and some of the Yihwa hate in the comments is disturbing when compared to how people are so ready to give Korn a pass. He's literally done nothing, NOTHING to merit forgiveness; but well he's cute and we have to have the two of them end up together because it's a BL so who cares? If this is how the storylines are going to play out, really neither of them deserve happily ever after with their chosen partners, not without some more serious resolution. The writers chose drama over substance, and apparently so did some viewers. smh. I hope the same people who complain about the lack of quality in BL, and disturbing repetitive themes (like rape, cheating, etc.), realize that showing you're willing to support (or forgive) writing like that by going along with the exact thought process the writers were anticipating coming from viewers means we'll continue to see stuff like this. They caused the stir they wanted, got people to talk non-stop about the series because it was so controversial, are going to wrap everything up in a neat little bow and viewers are going to be satisfied. Zero accountability.
This movie was great, it was super cute and had a good message behind it. I would definitely recommend watching it, I"m not sure why it has such a low rating...maybe because you have to pay for it? But consider buying a coffee or something similar likely costs more and it supports these small independent filmmakers making movies like this, showing there's an audience for what they do.
With everyone saying that the writer is showing the "reality" of being in a relationship with these couples (which is complete crap by the way, putting up with and forgiving cheating is not a reality of a relationship but a side-effect of an unhealthy one), then I hope they continue the trend and show it's not all rainbows and butterflies after someone f's up either. Relationships sometimes don't work out, and no sometimes you don't get a happily ever after. It would be straight up hypocritical for these couples to go back to happy and healthy relationships after this, I think I'll scream if it happens, because none of this is a sign of healthy relationships. In fact, it's perpetuating very gross misconceptions like "hey, everyone cheats at some point so it's ok, you just work through it." People get so worked up over portrayal of physical abuse, saying the person hurt should rightly leave the relationship instead of trying to stay and work through it. Staying in that situation is a mindset that's a step away from this rhetoric that you should work through cheating, which IS a form of emotional abuse. And it shouldn't be so easily accepted as "just another form of a relationship problem." In fact, everything leading up to now has shown major signs that these people shouldn't be together with each other and that's just sad. Instead of showing how a relationship can benefit from understanding and communication, we get partners cheating on each other? This is just depressing at this point. And I'll fully admit, as someone who has experienced what it's like to be cheated on and seen the fallout of marriages where a partner has cheated, the idea that you can just forgive and forget and move on, or that you even should is bullshit. If you honestly, truly feel the need to cheat on your partner you shouldn't be in that relationship anymore, period. Have an upfront conversation and end it before things get to that point. There are couples who work through problems like this, but to realistically portray a satisfying resolution where a couple has to basically re-learn to love and trust again would take a lot longer than the episodes that are left. If it's true the writer intended to be realistic in their portrayal of how "real" relationships can be, they bit off way more than they could chew imo if all the couples stay together (particularly Korn and Knock, who already had some serious relationship problems before Korn cheated). I hope we don't end up with a trite and glossed over ending after all this, but it's looking to be that way.
EDIT: for those interested you can find the video of them announcing the project subbed on LazySubbers facebook page.
People aren't sure how true this is, particularly because there were complaints about the acting (mainly about Pha and Yo's portrayal), and people think the current production team just wanted an excuse to get rid of the old cast entirely without getting blamed. This became even more likely when people found out that the author of 2Moons hadn't been happy with the original cast, especially Bas who played Wayo and pulled out of working on Season1, but now she is working closely with this new project. Basically it was all a huge mess, but it was most sad for SBFive (all the other boys except for God) who really did want to participate again but had the opportunity taken away from them. They were also treated pretty shitty because they weren't even told there was going to be a 2Moons2 or that they were going to be re-cast, they found out from fans. Personally, I get the complaints and them wanting more capable actors, but I think things weren't done correctly. I'm most upset about Kim and Copter not being able to play MingKit again lol. Hopefully they did end up with more seasoned actors at the end of all this mess, because if they went through all this and we still get rookie level acting I think people (myself included) will be pretty pissed because the original cast could have stayed XD
Pt2: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x61gr2c
And yes it has subs :)