I think Samantha Coates and Mike Chinnarat or Mild Jinna would have been better choices for the characters of Ba-Mee and Tae. Piploy and Sea, I love them, but I don't think they're actually delivering the comedy as well as it needs to be delivered.
I'm on episode 3 and I'm a little bit confused. So, Khram tries to get the 2nd world Phupha to jump into the pond so they can go back the 1st world and be together, but...in the same way Khram went into the 2nd world, but was still his 1st world self (same memories, personality, etc.), wouldn't the 2nd world Phupha be like that in the 1st world too? Just because they're in a different world, they wouldn't necessarily magically be in love again, right? Or was Khram just trying to get the 2nd world Phupha to go back with first to prevent him from being murdered in the 2nd world and later on, he would explain everything?
Coming back to reminisce on how I used stand on business for Da On every week when this show was airing. *sigh* I still love my little flawed Mr. Perfect. He gave his all and the world gave him nothing.
The king did not love Hong. Don't confuse obsession and possession with Love. These are two poles. The king used…
AFF was one of the first gay Asian films too and I also just stumbled across it on YouTube...probably because by that time I was already watching shows like Addicted, Make It Right, etc. haha I haven't stopped watching since.
Because the king/chief relationship was the central focus of the film, from the very beginning. It's not even…
The queen/chief was definitely about new physical sensations, natural lust, and sexual deprivation. Princesses were sent as virgins to new kingdoms and the queen was in full knowledge of both the emotional and sexual relationship between Hong Rim and the king. She resented it. We see it in one scene where they pass each other in the palace and she puts a dirty look on her face when Hong Rim passes.
Imagine being a virgin woman, a princess, and later a queen with a clear objective as to what you're supposed to be as queen (make babies), but not being able to do that because of another *man*.
This is why I call BS on all those who say whatever Hong Rim and the queen had was love.
The king did not love Hong. Don't confuse obsession and possession with Love. These are two poles. The king used…
I have to agree. This is one of my favorite films. I always come back because I'm interested in others' views of it and as someone who's studied quite a bit about this time in history, contextually speaking, I think it can be easily said that the king loved Hong Rim and that Hong Rim loved the king. Whether or not Hong Rim truly loved the queen is the real question.
I made a pretty long rant about how bad I *thought* this was going to be after watching the first three episodes, but by episode 4, a major conflict is more or less resolved and the way the show handles the rest of them seems about right.
Could the acting of some of the characters have been better, sure, but I think this series is a rare case of a spin-off done better than the main show. If you absolutely hated Cutie Pie, then this one isn't for you. If you mostly didn't like Cutie Pie, but still appreciated some aspects of it (like me), then this one's at least worth a try...don't be put off by the first three episodes. 6.5/10
It is annoying when done badly. Unfortunately, it's protocol that in Chinese shows everyone speaks "standard"…
"So often the voices and the movements of the actors' mouths are not in sync so it's very difficult to watch and distracting." Oh, *that's* the problem. I thought the problem the OP had was just that the voice actors didn't sound like the voices fit the actors they were speaking for, which is the biggest problem we (people in China) usually have with voice actors in these shows. 😅 Sorry. Bit of projecting there. I've only watched the first half of the first episode so far and even then I was multi-tasking. So, I haven't really gotten to see just how bad it is yet.
Can I watch this without watching cutie pie first?
I'm only on episode 3, but based on how it's starting out, I feel you can. You should at least go and check out the synopsis of Cutie Pie and Cutie Pie 2 or better still: just watch the last episode of Cutie Pie 2. It would put Lian and Kuea perfectly in context for you for this series.
So, I'm up to ep 3 and Yi has told Lian there three problems: 1) He feels weird about marrying Khondiao because of the tiger trauma/drama. 2) He doesn't want his family to be even more extorted. 3) Khondiao's own family might lowkey be trying to get him injured to extort even more money from Yi's family.
First of all, of the multitude of ways there could have been some sort of childhood trauma, did they really have to go with: 14 year-old convinces grown man (who's paid a tiger caretaker) to go feed a tiger by himself? Surely there could have been SOMEthing else..ANYthing else. In any case, it seems to have been a total accident. A deeply traumatizing one, but still...an accident. If Yi is going to get married to Khondiao anyway, why not just sit down and have that difficult conversation instead of putting it off and continuing with nightmares?
Next, ok, Yi, you don't want your family to be extorted by Khondiao's family. Fair. However, wouldn't a better work-around for that be letting Khondiao in on the secret so that he could be the one to help you subvert their plan? It is his (Khondiao's) own family after all. Also, if this is another reason you're holding off the marriage, Khondiao should really know that especially since you actually *do* love him and *do* want to be with him.
Finally and most urgently, Khondiao could have literally died in the car accident were he the one driving. If he were the target once, what makes you think he couldn't be the target again???
So far, this plot is doing the same thing Cutie Pie's plot did for me: make me ask why any of this crap is happening the way it's happening.
But will I continue? Absolutely. Max, Nat, Nunew, Zee, and Est are just good-looking enough for me to stick around and see how this craziness ends.
Am I the only one who finds the dubbing horrible? It makes the series unwatchable.My ex (Thai) often watched Chinese…
It is annoying when done badly. Unfortunately, it's protocol that in Chinese shows everyone speaks "standard" Mandarin which means having a Beijing-based accent. Unfortunately, many actors either can't do this as well as producers would like or they simply feel the character should have a different voice. In this case, I think it may be the former. When listening to them talk, it sounds like they're from southern China...which is a no-no in terms of accents nowadays...especially in costume dramas. It wasn't always like this though.
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Imagine being a virgin woman, a princess, and later a queen with a clear objective as to what you're supposed to be as queen (make babies), but not being able to do that because of another *man*.
This is why I call BS on all those who say whatever Hong Rim and the queen had was love.
Could the acting of some of the characters have been better, sure, but I think this series is a rare case of a spin-off done better than the main show. If you absolutely hated Cutie Pie, then this one isn't for you. If you mostly didn't like Cutie Pie, but still appreciated some aspects of it (like me), then this one's at least worth a try...don't be put off by the first three episodes. 6.5/10
Oh, *that's* the problem. I thought the problem the OP had was just that the voice actors didn't sound like the voices fit the actors they were speaking for, which is the biggest problem we (people in China) usually have with voice actors in these shows. 😅 Sorry. Bit of projecting there. I've only watched the first half of the first episode so far and even then I was multi-tasking. So, I haven't really gotten to see just how bad it is yet.
1) He feels weird about marrying Khondiao because of the tiger trauma/drama.
2) He doesn't want his family to be even more extorted.
3) Khondiao's own family might lowkey be trying to get him injured to extort even more money from Yi's family.
First of all, of the multitude of ways there could have been some sort of childhood trauma, did they really have to go with: 14 year-old convinces grown man (who's paid a tiger caretaker) to go feed a tiger by himself? Surely there could have been SOMEthing else..ANYthing else. In any case, it seems to have been a total accident. A deeply traumatizing one, but still...an accident. If Yi is going to get married to Khondiao anyway, why not just sit down and have that difficult conversation instead of putting it off and continuing with nightmares?
Next, ok, Yi, you don't want your family to be extorted by Khondiao's family. Fair. However, wouldn't a better work-around for that be letting Khondiao in on the secret so that he could be the one to help you subvert their plan? It is his (Khondiao's) own family after all. Also, if this is another reason you're holding off the marriage, Khondiao should really know that especially since you actually *do* love him and *do* want to be with him.
Finally and most urgently, Khondiao could have literally died in the car accident were he the one driving. If he were the target once, what makes you think he couldn't be the target again???
So far, this plot is doing the same thing Cutie Pie's plot did for me: make me ask why any of this crap is happening the way it's happening.
But will I continue? Absolutely. Max, Nat, Nunew, Zee, and Est are just good-looking enough for me to stick around and see how this craziness ends.