TianQi

Based on the content alone, I want to give this a 6, but the aesthetic of the production and the fact this is one of very few reality tv shows about relatively ordinary gay guys (representation matters) bumped it up to an 8. The major flaws for me were: Shun's personality, the fact he had so much screen time so I had to put up with it, and just the general lack of even screen time for some of the other characters, especially Taehon, who I think actually had the best story in the whole show despite his criminal lack of screen time *and* the fact that he didn't get romantically involved with anyone.

What I like about this type of BL is that the storylines are so perfectly separated that if you’re not invested in some characters, you can just skip the scenes with them. 😂 The only characters in this show for me are: Ryan, Jane, and Pie. No one else matters. lol

Also, I feel like the rock at the bottom of the lake thing was just a bit 🤏 of lazy writing. One would think if it were known that the rock is there, someone would have broken it and crossed long before. Also, what about Kram's dad?!?! He disappears, comes back, only to disappear again. The heartbreak that man must feel. 😭

I think this is categorically the best series Max and Nat have been involved in, but at the same time, was it amazing? I...don't think so. I didn't hate it, but I think a lot of that stems from the fact I'm somewhat attached to Max and Nat and that I'm happy to see Pak be get a redemption by being a somewhat decent series (if you've seen Love Area and The Cupid Coach, you know what I'm talking about).

I think the low point reviews for this show come from how frustrating the characters are and how problematic the plot becomes in some places. The best thing about this show is actually the acting. The main cast are all really good.

Seriously. They're both naturally really funny and I feel like if Sammy were playing Ba-Mee, her character would be possibly less annoying to watch.

How much does Frank feature in this and is he in a couple?

I think Samantha Coates and Mike Chinnarat or Mild Jinna would have been better choices for the characters of Ba-Mee and Tae. Piploy and Sea, I love them, but I don't think they're actually delivering the comedy as well as it needs to be delivered.

I'm on episode 3 and I'm a little bit confused. So, Khram tries to get the 2nd world Phupha to jump into the pond so they can go back the 1st world and be together, but...in the same way Khram went into the 2nd world, but was still his 1st world self (same memories, personality, etc.), wouldn't the 2nd world Phupha be like that in the 1st world too? Just because they're in a different world, they wouldn't necessarily magically be in love again, right? Or was Khram just trying to get the 2nd world Phupha to go back with first to prevent him from being murdered in the 2nd world and later on, he would explain everything?

Coming back to reminisce on how I used stand on business for Da On every week when this show was airing. *sigh* I still love my little flawed Mr. Perfect. He gave his all and the world gave him nothing.

This series still isn't rated lower than What the Duck 2. lmao

AFF was one of the first gay Asian films too and I also just stumbled across it on YouTube...probably because by that time I was already watching shows like Addicted, Make It Right, etc. haha I haven't stopped watching since.

I liked it, personally.

The queen/chief was definitely about new physical sensations, natural lust, and sexual deprivation. Princesses were sent as virgins to new kingdoms and the queen was in full knowledge of both the emotional and sexual relationship between Hong Rim and the king. She resented it. We see it in one scene where they pass each other in the palace and she puts a dirty look on her face when Hong Rim passes.

Imagine being a virgin woman, a princess, and later a queen with a clear objective as to what you're supposed to be as queen (make babies), but not being able to do that because of another *man*.

This is why I call BS on all those who say whatever Hong Rim and the queen had was love.

I have to agree. This is one of my favorite films. I always come back because I'm interested in others' views of it and as someone who's studied quite a bit about this time in history, contextually speaking, I think it can be easily said that the king loved Hong Rim and that Hong Rim loved the king. Whether or not Hong Rim truly loved the queen is the real question.

I made a pretty long rant about how bad I *thought* this was going to be after watching the first three episodes, but by episode 4, a major conflict is more or less resolved and the way the show handles the rest of them seems about right.

Could the acting of some of the characters have been better, sure, but I think this series is a rare case of a spin-off done better than the main show. If you absolutely hated Cutie Pie, then this one isn't for you. If you mostly didn't like Cutie Pie, but still appreciated some aspects of it (like me), then this one's at least worth a try...don't be put off by the first three episodes. 6.5/10

I love Nunew (and Zee) so much too, but...please don't get your hopes up. 🤣

"So often the voices and the movements of the actors' mouths are not in sync so it's very difficult to watch and distracting."
Oh, *that's* the problem. I thought the problem the OP had was just that the voice actors didn't sound like the voices fit the actors they were speaking for, which is the biggest problem we (people in China) usually have with voice actors in these shows. 😅 Sorry. Bit of projecting there. I've only watched the first half of the first episode so far and even then I was multi-tasking. So, I haven't really gotten to see just how bad it is yet.

It's at a 5/10 for me rn 😅

Ok then maybe I can too eventually. I've only seen the trailer so far and I'm like wth haha