I just watched Man out of Nowhere. Can any fans recommend any of his other dramas or movies worth checking out?
Guns and Talks is worth watching too. I thought it's gonna be a cliched and boring action flick. But it turned out to be quirky, charming and quite funny. I looked up the director and apparently all his works are quite unconventional.
There is one comforting thought... Someday this will be a distant past. However slowly, societies do move forward, and awareness about things like grooming is growing. Even if he wins in the court on technicality (thanks to outdated Korean laws), he can't win long-term. The p-word is a stain that will remain in his biography forever.
His "contributions" to entertainment industry are not essential viewing; they're not part of collective consciousness. There are artists of distant past who are very problematic by modern standards, but you can't erase their art from public consciousness. KSH is never gonna be one of them.
Knowing that his fame is just a passing thing and has no lasting power gives me some comfort.
I just realized something: The informant’s wife never said that she or her husband personally knew or met Won…
That's what I hope for! His agency said something similar:
"Based on the context, we understood it as referring to the condolences paid by Won Bin at Kim Sae-ron's funeral. The informant's wife only expressed gratitude to Won Bin but did not mention receiving any specific help."
It's just singling him out looks strange and sudden, so it raised a lot of questions. Out of everyone who denied connection to the informant, this was the softest one, whereas everyone else is filing lawsuits against Garo.
In my opinion, all evidence that came before this "assassination" story is real and credible. Because it came…
The family did not file a lawsuit against KSH prior to this. They only sued LJH. But now they filed a lawsuit against KSH based on the informant's recording. If it's fake, it's not gonna end well. KSH added more lawsuits against them because of this.
I don’t care about “false” evidence and not. All I know is, there is smoke there is fire. Also, NO innocent…
In my opinion, all evidence that came before this "assassination" story is real and credible. Because it came directly from Sae Ron's phones, letters, etc. It was all going quite well despite threats and lawsuits. Victory was possible.
Unfortunately, this new development was a catastrophic misstep from Garo. It threatens to torpedo the whole thing.
Won Bin's side denied that he knows the informant's wife.My last remnants of hope that the informant was a real…
I may be the dumbest person on earth because I keep hoping for a miracle.
I actually did think at first that the informant's wife was simply referring to Won Bin's presence at the funeral. The way she described it was fitting for a funeral. But then I was like "Why single him out? Weird. You're not a relative, why do you care about his presence there?" So I assumed it had to be something else.
His side says, "We don’t understand why the informant’s wife is thanking Won Bin. Aside from paying respects at a funeral to mourn the deceased, there is no relation to this matter. Based on the context, we understood it as referring to the condolences paid by Won Bin at Kim Sae-ron's funeral. The informant's wife only expressed gratitude to Won Bin but did not mention receiving any specific help."
Is it possible that it's just a misunderstanding? That the wife WAS referring to the funeral and never meant receiving personal help from him? In this scenario, she can still be legit, with a serious case of "misspoke".
I guess I'm in the process of grieving that Sae Ron's case died because Garo fell for a con job...
It is astonishing that people believe such an obviously made fake. If there are already at least three different…
"proves that they have nothing more substantial and never had"
Just because the newest recording might be fake doesn't mean that earlier evidence is fake too. The new one came from external source. All previous evidence came from Sae Ron's personal belongings, her phones and laptops.
KSH/GM are filing more lawsuits against Garo and Sae Ron's family.
They are way too confident about this. Their previous lawsuits were always kinda vague-ish. But this one is very on point. It's like they're absolutely confident that they finally got them. It looks bleak.
If the informant is a fraud, I can't believe Garo was this stupid to fall for it. It's like he expected GM to try something as outrageous as an assassination attempt, so when someone claimed exactly that, he jumped on it without doing his due diligence.
I hope I'm wrong and it's all real, but I can't imagine why would GM/KSH be this confident about this. They were never like this before.
It was not surprising to me as this newest "evidence" seems too farfetched. This just puts a big dent in GRI/KSR's…
It's hard not to despair. If the informant is a fraud, Sae Ron's family's new lawsuit against KSH is gonna bury them. I'm losing whatever little hope I had.
Oh, this is hilarious. Now KSH cultists claim that Won Bin wanted to be in Knock Off and that's why he's trying to remove KSH. The delusion!
Won Bin is a legend. He's an anomaly in the entertainment world, to be this beloved and in demand despite not acting for nearly two decades. If he were to return, the hype would be out of this world. To claim that Won Bin needs KSH removed to make return is laughable.
The informant's wife sent Garosero a photo that she had searched for online, claiming that her husband was injured.…
The second paragraph is exactly what lifted my spirits a bit. An ordinary person like her wouldn't bring up an actor's name out of nowhere. Especially someone as reclusive as Won Bin. It has to mean something. I really, really hope he helps out behind the scenes.
As far as I understand, the informant gave everything to FBI. His phone, recordings and messages.
This sounds encouraging. Surely if this was fake, he wouldn't do that. Why would a fraud get FBI involved and then go public with it? It doesn't make sense.
I think she's referring to the funeral, nothing else
Perhaps. But randomly mentioning him seems strange. By the way, Kbizoom changed his pic to the one from the funeral. They had a different pic at first.
Apparently the wife of the informant thanked Won Bin? That's kind of... interesting. She can't be referring to Sae Ron's funeral because she's not a relative. Does this mean she met him in relation to her husband's alleged stabbing? So... Is Won Bin involved behind the scenes?
They have to be very careful with who they mention. Bringing up someone as huge as Won Bin can't be accidental, right?
His "contributions" to entertainment industry are not essential viewing; they're not part of collective consciousness. There are artists of distant past who are very problematic by modern standards, but you can't erase their art from public consciousness. KSH is never gonna be one of them.
Knowing that his fame is just a passing thing and has no lasting power gives me some comfort.
"Based on the context, we understood it as referring to the condolences paid by Won Bin at Kim Sae-ron's funeral. The informant's wife only expressed gratitude to Won Bin but did not mention receiving any specific help."
It's just singling him out looks strange and sudden, so it raised a lot of questions. Out of everyone who denied connection to the informant, this was the softest one, whereas everyone else is filing lawsuits against Garo.
Unfortunately, this new development was a catastrophic misstep from Garo. It threatens to torpedo the whole thing.
I actually did think at first that the informant's wife was simply referring to Won Bin's presence at the funeral. The way she described it was fitting for a funeral. But then I was like "Why single him out? Weird. You're not a relative, why do you care about his presence there?" So I assumed it had to be something else.
His side says, "We don’t understand why the informant’s wife is thanking Won Bin. Aside from paying respects at a funeral to mourn the deceased, there is no relation to this matter. Based on the context, we understood it as referring to the condolences paid by Won Bin at Kim Sae-ron's funeral. The informant's wife only expressed gratitude to Won Bin but did not mention receiving any specific help."
Is it possible that it's just a misunderstanding? That the wife WAS referring to the funeral and never meant receiving personal help from him? In this scenario, she can still be legit, with a serious case of "misspoke".
I guess I'm in the process of grieving that Sae Ron's case died because Garo fell for a con job...
My last remnants of hope that the informant was a real deal just died.
Just because the newest recording might be fake doesn't mean that earlier evidence is fake too. The new one came from external source. All previous evidence came from Sae Ron's personal belongings, her phones and laptops.
They are way too confident about this. Their previous lawsuits were always kinda vague-ish. But this one is very on point. It's like they're absolutely confident that they finally got them. It looks bleak.
If the informant is a fraud, I can't believe Garo was this stupid to fall for it. It's like he expected GM to try something as outrageous as an assassination attempt, so when someone claimed exactly that, he jumped on it without doing his due diligence.
I hope I'm wrong and it's all real, but I can't imagine why would GM/KSH be this confident about this. They were never like this before.
Won Bin is a legend. He's an anomaly in the entertainment world, to be this beloved and in demand despite not acting for nearly two decades. If he were to return, the hype would be out of this world. To claim that Won Bin needs KSH removed to make return is laughable.
This sounds encouraging. Surely if this was fake, he wouldn't do that. Why would a fraud get FBI involved and then go public with it? It doesn't make sense.
They have to be very careful with who they mention. Bringing up someone as huge as Won Bin can't be accidental, right?
https://kbizoom.com/kim-sae-ron-whistleblower-wife-speaks-out/